Israel Declares War

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ThereRoseaLamb

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The Palestinians are people.
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No, Arabs are a people. That is what Palestinians are.


Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem are absolutely real places.
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Places, not a country.


Why are you pretending to not know Palestinians live there? I think you are trolling now...
We spoke about this a long time ago. There is no such people, just made up for political purposes. They are Arabs.
 

Smoke

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No, Arabs are a people. That is what Palestinians are.




Places, not a country.




We spoke about this a long time ago. There is no such people, just made up for political purposes. They are Arabs.
I didn't say "Palestine", I didn't say "country"... I used a term everyone uses to describe a certain group of Arabs... You may not like the term "Palestinian", oh well. You know who I'm referencing. You also aren't acknowledging that the West Bank and East Jerusalem are being occupied by Israel. Do you refute this?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I didn't say "Palestine", I didn't say "country"... I used a term everyone uses to describe a certain group of Arabs... You may not like the term "Palestinian", oh well. You know who I'm referencing. You also aren't acknowledging that the West Bank and East Jerusalem are being occupied by Israel. Do you refute this?

Are they countries?
 

HeIsHere

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I didn't say "Palestine", I didn't say "country"... I used a term everyone uses to describe a certain group of Arabs... You may not like the term "Palestinian", oh well. You know who I'm referencing. You also aren't acknowledging that the West Bank and East Jerusalem are being occupied by Israel. Do you refute this?

Denying them an identity is part of the argument that have less claim to the land and justifies ethnic cleansing.
 

HeIsHere

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It would be nice if they didnt slaughter civilians and noncombatants
Sad you have left. :cry:

I totally get it though.

Christians defending collective punishment and make no mistake that is what is going on.

The bombs being dropped on Gaza cannot reach Hamas, their tunnels are so deep the bombs do not penetrate.

They just bombed a refugee camp and defended it by saying they killed one member of Hamas.
Again a war crime under international law.

Do people remember how Osama Bin Laden was captured, it wasn't by out of control indiscriminate bombing.

What a sad day, when the history books are written about this period the church will shine as a huge failure, partisan and ignoble.
 

HeIsHere

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Would be nice if the world was made of marshmallows and lollies but war happens and civilians get killed.
So flippant, when Gen Z's in your town are drafted and come back in body bags and moms and dads are broken I hope you will remember this statement.

Easy to say when you do not have to send a son/daughter to war.
 

gb9

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No, Arabs are a people. That is what Palestinians are.




Places, not a country.




We spoke about this a long time ago. There is no such people, just made up for political purposes. They are Arabs.
so, one who does not fully support Israel, or is critical of some of the things they do does not automatically support hamas.

wish folks could grasp that concept..
 

Magenta

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The bombs being dropped on Gaza cannot reach Hamas, their tunnels are so deep the bombs do not penetrate.
Dozens of Hamas combatants were in the same underground tunnel complex as Ibrahim Biari ("He was
very important, I would say even pivotal in the planning and the execution of the October 7 attack against
Israel from the northeastern parts of the Gaza Strip," said IDF spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan
Conricus), and were also killed when it collapsed in the attack, Conricus said.
source
 

Smoke

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Why are you asking me this when I have asked you numerous time if the West Bank and East Jerusalem are being occupied by Israel? I also asked you if you know that displacing and settling Israelis in East Jerusalem is considered an international war crime.

Your first excuse was that you were sick and would respond many pages back. I ask again and you're pretending I said "Palestine" as if it was a modern day country (never even used the term country) and ignored my direct naming of the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of playing games?
 

ZNP

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Dozens of Hamas combatants were in the same underground tunnel complex as Ibrahim Biari ("He was
very important, I would say even pivotal in the planning and the execution of the October 7 attack against
Israel from the northeastern parts of the Gaza Strip," said IDF spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan
Conricus), and were also killed when it collapsed in the attack, Conricus said.
source
bunker busting bombs, we saw them in the first Iraq war.
 

ZNP

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Rising Global Anti-Semitism
 

shittim

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Yep, scripture refers to it as "sorcery" and is one of the reason He is bringing it to an end.
Thank you brother, so thankful you are His.
blessings
 

PennEd

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Every speck of land on Earth has been conquered, reconquered, and resettled time after time.

For the very most part, only Israel and America get the lion’s share label of oppressor, and land stealer.

The Palestinians, if you want to call them that, already were partitioned a country. It’s called Jordan. But they refused to take them. And get no crap for refusing to now.

I think even the dumbest Israeli now recognizes they all have to go. They cannot stay in the land God promised to Judah.

https://x.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199?s=20
 

Moses_Young

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To be in military service because your country is under constant threat is compelled service. This is easily displayed in the fact that all Jews must serve. It's a matter of survival. It has been thrust upon them. They didn't seek it out any more than Palestinian civilians choose to be shields.
It's called slavery, and it's a crime. Forcing someone to perform any kind of service against his will is slavery, and is a crime against humanity. Sexual slavery is popularly denounced these days, but military slavery is also quite popular, 'though just as wicked. So if the military is legitimate - and I'm assuming that it is, as it is being described as a military - then the soldiers have consented. If it is a slave army (and I agree there are legitimate reasons for claiming this) - or perhaps a military with embedded slave soldiers - slightly different rules would apply. But for the sake of simplifying the discussion, it's probably easier to discount the slave army component. If we want to talk slave army, that's another crime against humanity for the Israeli government.
 

ZNP

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Will it be Turkey that is the King of the North?
There are some interesting "coincidences" concerning Turkey. 106 years ago as of tomorrow that the Balfour Declaration was made, Nov 2, 1917. What is interesting about that is that the Strong's definition for 106 is fist. So that reminds us of Dana Coverstone's dream three years ago. The hand underlined November 3 times (perhaps indicating 3 years from them) and then the fist hits November, perhaps the 106th anniversary of that Balfour declaration.

Turkey has wanted to reform the Ottoman Empire and they certainly have wanted to control the Middle East ever since then.

So the "coincidence" is that Turkey could enter the war at this time. Hezbollah is warning they will enter the war with 130,000 missiles.