different levels of falling away

Hebrews 6 4-8 is often taken as a falling away that can't be repented of, I think Hebrews 10:29 is where it's really at though. A behavior of someone who flat won't repent and has ditched their belief in Christ completely. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

While I don't believe it's possible to lose salvation simply by having too many miscellaneous sins, I think you'd have to reach that final point of hardened heart and leave Christ altogether, There are far more cases of falling away that are completely redeemable. It's important not to assume anyone is nonredeemable, because at that point a person will have no reason to repent, thus they live in sin for the rest of their days. However it's important Not to ignore sin too long since there is always the possibility of developing a "Hardened unrepentant heart"(heb 3-8) and becoming one of those Hebrews 10:29 speaks of.

#1. the Disciples themselves, especially peter.
And Jesus said to them, "You will all fall away, for it is written, 'I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered

#2. James 5 19-20 We aren't given tons of details, but it's safe to say this is a person who has some bad doctrine, possibly some ongoing sin, but is at least open to being corrected and helped.
My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

#3 1 Corinthians 5:5 A "So called believer in the church of Corinth practicing incest, though we don't know for sure he was a believer Paul seems to give the benefit of the doubt. Point is "That his spirit may be saved."
have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus

Point is if you're feeling guilty, concerned, worried, that you have sinned too much or have fallen away, Those are actually good feelings because your heart isn't hardened as of yet. I personally would worry if you had no guilt, shame or concern.

I was wondering about this recently. The hard-hardheartedness of some Christians over the recent wars - first Ukraine and Russia, and now Israel and Palestine. Picking sides and celebrating in the death and destruction caused to the other side. I noticed it more in favour of the Israel side in these forums, but in the world, I'd say it's more on the Palestinian side. However, I can understand the people of the world having uncircumcised hearts - with Christans, it should not be so.

I don't know if Christians can have uncircumcised hearts, but that's what it appeared to me, going by how some of them are speaking. It makes me sad, but also angry.

Who is celebrating the death of Palestinians?

Some people are. I don't think you. But some saying they got what they deserved, and shouldn't have voted in the terrorists etc. Terrible, and no better than the world in its support of the terrorists, to my thinking. Like WW2 all over again. People too stupid to learn, I think. :-|

Recognizing those truths, and even supporting Israel, isn't the same as celebrating death. I haven't seen any rallies celebrating Palestinian deaths.
I will admit that there are some on both sides who haven't valued life as they ought, but all the celebrating has been on one side.

Easy to look from the out side in of anything and then judge what really should happen. We do this all the time to each other. I can't speak for anyone else but I don't know what its like to be born in Palestine or Iraq, Iran, China, Russia, Israel. Just Muslim and Jewish they live what they believe. So I pray for them see I know where the battle really is and where its not. I have my Fathers ear I know the power the authority I have so again I know where the battle is. What others are saying or not.. unless someone asks me talks to me I will say nothing other then praying for Israel, Palestine and every other nation to know Christ. I don't know the pain on any side.

Like I said, if you read my post in context. I can understand the world celebrating death and murder. Christians are supposed to be different.

You were speaking of Christians. And now you lie about it.

I'm not going to debate someone without even basic comprehension skills.

Lol. Did you read what I just wrote? You lack even the most rudimentary comprehension skills. I'm not going to debate. What is written is clear for anyone to read. Obviously it didn't make sense to you, and now you're accusing me of lying.

Yes, I read your lies, and now I am reading your denials and attempted cover-ups.

You are speaking of Christians initially.

You also dodge the issue of Christians saying Israel gets what it deserves.

Of course that what your whole smoke screen is about.

The questions you should be asking are (1) "Is Islamist terrorism acceptable under any circumstances, when radical Islam has declared war against Christians, Jews, and non-Muslims?" and (2) "Is the avowed extermination of the Jews and Israel acceptable under any circumstances?"

When you recall the atrocities of ISIS, and all the other Islamist terrorist groups against ordinary citizens all over the world, who have done nothing against them, then what should be the attitude towards evildoers? See Romans 13. God does not tolerate evildoers.

The Palestinian political leaders care nothing about their people, and are using them as cannon fodder. Are you prepared to tell these devils to stop their devilish actions? Will they listen to you or will they take you and behead you, and kill your whole family for no reason?

VOICE OF EVIL: Hamas Terrorist Coldly Reveals Graphic Details About Murdering Crying Children to Israeli Official – Fears for His Life if His Parents Find Out About (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/voice-evil-hamas-terrorist-coldly-reveals-graphic-details/

I think if governments are trying to rationalise war-crimes (and they are), then evils such as terrorism are a natural response. I find both positions (war crimes and terrorism) reprehensible and unGodly, but terrorism and similar crimes is ultimately what these corrupt governments are encouraging, by engaging in war crimes without holding the perpetrators to account. Afterall, war crimes often is really just terrorism committed by a government, which typically can afford better PR departments.

Kool! So we can sin all we want.... as long as the label them miscellaneous and still be saved!

Unless it's the nation state of Israel who is backed by the Lord Jesus Christ who have been hearing the muzlims say for years and years they are going to murder every Jew on the planet... then the muzlims launch a big surprise attack...

Is real has every right to clan house... and clean house they will!

not what I'm talking about, I'm referring to stuff that isn't habitual like thawking your thumb with a hammer and saying a bad word. Habitual stuff should raise red flags when you beome aware of it.

so you don't believe in repentance and redemption at all? one strike your out forever?

thawking your thumb with a hammer is not a sin, it's a mistake.

saying a bad word IS actually a sin and one must confess and forsake that sin in order to be cleansed from it.

When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again according to His Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.