Israel Declares War

We are not at war with China but also we are not at peace with them either.

Good day sir.

of course there are bad things being done by hamas,
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but a good rule of thumb is because there is so much propaganda being pumped out about the conflict in Israel, don't just quickly believe what is coming out of there..

No! Rape is not bad, murdering parents in front of children is not bad, taking children and babies as hostages is not bad. Chewing gum in school is bad. What they have done is called terrorism, and it's horrific!!




Seriously, stop it please. I saw a journalist walk through a bloody home with bullet holes in the walls. Childrens pictures on the fridge. Parents are on all news channels crying because their children were murdered or taken hostage. 2000 Israelis were dragged out of their homes and murdered in cold blood. Please don't talk to me about propaganda. It's just a ridiculous comment.

and about the same amount of people are being reported dead in gaza.

of course, i say reported because that is what we are being told, just as the dead baby situation , which once again Israel and the I D F have said they cannot confirm.

and, yes, of course what hamas did was terrorism.

but, is not bombing apartment buildings in gaza not also very bad?? because Israel did that.

and that HAS been confirmed.

Except if you destroy the lives of moms and grandmothers and babies you will make more enemies. The young men will become angry and ardent enemies. But if you help them thrownoff the shackles of oppression they will have some appreciation and at least not be your enemy.

Its not true for modern day either. Palestinians have been in the west bank and Gaza from the beginning of the ottoman empire

4D Chess: Biden Offers The Palestinians $100 Million In Exchange For None Of The Hostages

TEL AVIV — In a stunning move sure to be taught at universities in politics and diplomacy classes for generations to come, President Joe Biden has brokered a deal to send $100 million of U.S. taxpayer money to the Palestinian Authority in exchange for none of the hostages currently being held by Hamas.
"Here's the deal," Biden mumbled to the gathered media. "Nobody's ever done anything like this. We're going to send 100 million…billion trillion…100 thousand…all of the…the…100 million dollars to…to the…to the folks that…those folks there. Philistines. Planetfiends. Palestines. Palestinians. And in return, I have asked for none of the people being held hostage by Hamas to be released. I worked hard on this deal and held firm until they agreed to take it. I showed them who's boss. Marginzarfinabit…"
The deal, which was quickly agreed to by the Palestinian Authority, is believed to provide much-needed humanitarian relief to the Palestinian people by funding the purchase and assembly of more rockets, bombs, and small arms. "Our people are starving and thirsty," said Palestinian Authority spokesman Omar Hassan Bakalakadaka. "This influx of funding from the United States will go a long way toward paying for further violent acts to be perpetrated against Israeli civilians. Thank you, President Biden, and death to Israel."

Biden has promised the Palestinians he will authorize another $100 million after the first $100 million is spent, in exchange for nothing whatsoever.
At publishing time, the White House stressed that the administration was more than willing to take the Palestinian Authority at its word that none of the $100 million would be used for all of the things the Palestinian Authority always uses money for, such as weapons and horrific acts of terrorism.



https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-ches...-million-in-exchange-for-none-of-the-hostages

Instead of arguing about who is good and who is evil, can we come up with a suggestion on how to stop the problem.

There are two problems so by all means provide a solution to either or both.

1. Terrorists have tunnels underneath Gaza, they pop out, fire missiles and then duck back down in the tunnels.

or

2. The situation in Gaza is very poor. The Palestinians are dependent on Israel's economy, but the Israelis don't trust them since their Hamas government has the destruction of Israel as their platform. As a result there is a big wall between Gaza and Israel and every time Hamas fires rockets at Israel they shut down the wall so the Palestinians cannot enter Israel and work.

I will start.

Problem #2 is an easy fix. Israel funds the construction of a brand new city, Anyone in Gaza can move into an apartment in the new city as long as they renounce terrorism and the Hamas goal of destroying Israel. If 1 million people accept this deal then Gaza would be much less crowded and it would be far more reasonable to view all of those living in Gaza as Hamas. This city has no walls and you are given full citizenship. However, Palestinians might prefer the city to be part of Jordan, which is fine, Israel can still fund the construction and have an open access from the city to Israel.

Problem #1 would then be to eliminate those tunnels, not that hard to do since every time they fire a missile they can map the location, with satellites and drones and seismic equipment it would be relatively easy to have a complete map. But the process of destroying those tunnels would look pretty much exactly like what we are seeing Israel do right now. However, the new city would probably take five years to build and hopefully over that time you could really sell the city as a nice place to live and maybe get 1.5 million to leave Gaza.

It is a carrot and a stick, a carrot for those who renounce terrorism and a stick for those who don't.

This answers several questions like "where are they to flee to" and whether or not someone is Hamas.

We have a disturbed ccp installed administration and president.

Israel can still fund the construction and have an open access from the city to Israel.

and about the same amount of people are being reported dead in gaza.

of course, i say reported because that is what we are being told, just as the dead baby situation , which once again Israel and the I D F have said they cannot confirm.

and, yes, of course what hamas did was terrorism.

but, is not bombing apartment buildings in gaza not also very bad?? because Israel did that.

and that HAS been confirmed.

But they weren't targeted!!!! The Jewish civilians were the target!!




Cannot confirm doesn't mean "didn't happen" and there are dead babies and babies taken hostage. Just because the beheaded may not, may not have happened, doesn't mean the others didn't.





Oh yes, that has been confirmed, you can be sure they'll nail Israel to the wall. Just like the hospital "bombing". It's not very bad because Israel isn't trying to hit civilians. Sad but not bad and done with intent.

I think attempting to make some sorta moral equivalency is wrong.

Hamas/muslims, have a stated goal of killing all Jews, men, women and children, and driving them into the sea. Israel has never stated, nor attempted to do the same. And let's be perfectly clear. Israel COULD wipe out every man, woman and child. They have the means to do so.
This woman is fired up. And I believe rightfully so. Trying to shift the narrative away from the horrific murders and abductions against people simply going about their day, and putting it on Israel, is exactly what Islam and satan want.

https://x.com/bungarsargon/status/1715192435951779913?s=20