Israel Declares War

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Magenta

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nothing other than European politician who is pro Israel.
He is also the subject of a fatwa (associated with Al-Qaeda), calling upon Muslims to assassinate him in the name of Islam.
 

SilverFox7

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Who has brushed off the horrible evil that Hamas has commited?
Arab scholars, leaders, and left-wing liberal extremists who blame Israel ultimately for the Hamas' attacks.

They cite that far more Palestinian civilians have died in recent years, which prompted this recent retaliation.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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A true very bright spot. I highly recommend watching this former Muslims testimony. I’ll post some of the transcript:


I was on my way to the United States to convert Christians to Islam, and I had 30 illegal passports at that time. I was arrested and put in jail in Malaysia. I was a dedicated Muslim who not only prayed the prayers, but I read the Quran once every ten days cover to cover. So I was very dedicated in my time in jail.

One day, as I’m praying, a man appears in front of me – normal size, but his being shines like light. This light is not a normal light. This light carried identity in it. And you knew that he is holy and instantaneously, I knew I am not. Even though I had prayed so many prayers, even though I had fasted so much and I had read the Quran and I had volunteered to work on landmines or I had participated in hanging people trying to please Allah, I knew, even though I have kept all the rules and regulation of Islam, I knew I am not just and I’m not holy and I knew the only just thing for him to do is to kill me.
But I didn’t want to die. So I ran to the corner of the room, literally held my head in my arms, and just cried out, shouting, “Forgive me, forgive me, forgive me.”

He recalled, “And I didn’t think he will forgive me because he is just. Still, I felt a touch on my left arm, and he said, ‘I forgive you.’ And I felt the weight just lifted off me. And I knew I’m forgiven, but I don’t know how. And I was confused. Still, I say, okay, I don’t understand. Only God can forgive, but you just forgave me. You are God, but you are a different God than the one I have studied about. This is not Allah. So who are you that forgives me? And he said, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life.’

“And I thought, That’s very powerful. It means a lot because as a Muslim, you pray ‘Show me there’s a straight path.’ And so the way is a direction. Truth is something you measure. Life is a source, but he claims to be all those three. I never thought the way is a person. The truth is a person, and life is a person, and all of them is the same person.
“So I said, ‘I don’t understand what is your name?’ And he said, ‘Jesus Christ.’ And it was as if someone grabbed all my bones out of my body. I just fell like a piece of meat to the ground. And I just began to weep.”

At CBN’s bureau in Jerusalem, the report said, Javid met an Israeli woman, Sahsa Ariey, whose teenage sister was among those kidnapped by Hamas during its attack.
“He and his wife wept as they watched her story. He introduced himself to her, off-camera, prayed with her, and apologized to her,” CBN reported.
CBN reported he also offered a prayer for the Middle East:
The creator of heaven and Earth, God Almighty. You love the world, the whole world, all the people of the world. So much that you sacrificed Jesus Christ so that we will not perish but have eternal life. I pray today that the revelation of Jesus Christ would go forth amongst the Muslims and the sons of Ishmael. Father, I pray that you would remember that covenant with Ishmael, that you would go forth because Ishmael is thirsty for the revelation of love, for the revelation of Jesus Christ, for the revelation of salvation. Father, I pray that there would be a hand of protection that would protect Isaac on every front, not only in Israel but all around the world. Give us visions, dreams, and wisdom to speak peace in this war, in Jesus’s mighty name I pray. Amen.”​
Jesus saves. Amen.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Arab scholars, leaders, and left-wing liberal extremists who blame Israel ultimately for the Hamas' attacks.

They cite that far more Palestinian civilians have died in recent years, which prompted this recent retaliation.
There is no justification for terrorism, and attacks on civilians. My concern in all this is the humanity. All i see is human suffering. Evil committed agains more and more people. This is why i side with neither. If Israel had sided with the palestinian prosters and helped them to oust Hamas. Then I would see an attempt to assuage human suffering while serving justice. But no rather I see two mongrels fighting and destroying lives that are besieged on all sides.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Good news, what is happening there is coming to America, so after we get attacked you too can rush to help the Palestinian people.
This shows that you do not care about the lives of people, but only desire zionism.
 

ZNP

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This shows that you do not care about the lives of people, but only desire zionism.
Apparently what it shows is that you do not understand english.

Typical leftist, point out that you will reap what you sow and so returns with ad hominem attack
 

Everlasting-Grace

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I think this about says it all.. From X








Kiyah Willis

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Israel has the ability to kill everyone in Gaza but hasn't because they don't want to kill civilians Hamas wants to kill everyone in Israel but hasn't because they don't have the ability to kill as many civilians as they want to See the difference?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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actually we care about them

If hamas and the other terrorist groups are destroyed. Palestine can live in peace.
Except if you destroy the lives of moms and grandmothers and babies you will make more enemies. The young men will become angry and ardent enemies. But if you help them thrownoff the shackles of oppression they will have some appreciation and at least not be your enemy.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Except if you destroy the lives of moms and grandmothers and babies you will make more enemies. The young men will become angry and ardent enemies. But if you help them thrownoff the shackles of oppression they will have some appreciation and at least not be your enemy.
Sadly. You will not destroy the enemy without civilian casualties.

they are the byproduct of war

why by the way, Hamas started

Blame them stop blaming Israel
 

Nehemiah6

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If hamas and the other terrorist groups are destroyed. Palestine can live in peace.
Hamas and Hezbollah are the SYMPTOMS. It is Iran that is the root cause of all this turmoil. Without Iran these terrorist groups have no resources. Obama and Biden have been paying Iran billions to promote terrorism. But Trump could have done some serious damage to Iran. What was needed was the extermination of the demons who control Iran through the ayatollahs, along with all their munitions and military hardware. Targeted attacks on the real enemy, not on the civilians.
He could have also issued an executive order that no assets of Iran should be released by any future government.
 

Fillan

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The best bet is to stay inside your home and hope you aren't obliterated.
Hello Smoke. Thanks for your reply. I agree it's a terrible situation for the people on the ground. A recollection I have after visiting Egypt, Israel and Jordan is that of space. Egypt and Jordan are geographically large countries with vast uninhabited spaces. Israel is tiny, very urbanized, almost claustrophobic. Looking to Israel to give up land for peace is not a rational solution, they don't have much to give. The Arabs could accommodate the Palestinians in their unused lands a hundred times over. God Bless You :)