Israel Declares War

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ZNP

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That is ridiculous, I am cheering for Covenant Theology the exact opposite of the end of Christianity.

Are you getting desperate too now.

Yes many Christians are indoctrinated by bad hermeneutic as was I once, but then I stopped being lazy and did the hard work and figured out the errors.
My mistake, I meant to say Churchianity, might have been autocorrected.
 

ZNP

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Jeremiah 2:3 Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

Warning to all these nations looking to devour Israel.

4 Hear ye the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:

5 Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?

Rebuke of Israel for walking after vanity and becoming vain. No difference between them and the world.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Nope

that is what I stated in my origional post. and you said I was wrong.

Can you answer my question please.
Your account of history was wrong and i stated the correct account of history.
The fact that a mosque sets in israel only because they dont have power to change it and the fact that churches are there because they need the christian west for support does not indicate that they have all been living in peace until palestinians showed up.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Your account of history was wrong and i stated the correct account of history.
The fact that a mosque sets in israel only because they dont have power to change it and the fact that churches are there because they need the christian west for support does not indicate that they have all been living in peace until palestinians showed up.
I was not speaking of history. I was speaking of modern day

Please learn how to understand what people are saying..
 

ZNP

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As goes Israel so goes the US

Jeremiah 2:19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I was not speaking of history. I was speaking of modern day

Please learn how to understand what people are saying..
Its not true for modern day either. Palestinians have been in the west bank and Gaza from the beginning of the ottoman empire
 

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Really?
So when ARE the end times?
Are there even end times at all in your view?

Israel being a nation and dry bones coming to life right now in real time have already proven you wrong BTW.
Furthermore, Israel MUST cry out to the Lord BEFORE the SC event. Which they will after 3 1/2 year of devastating tribulation of course.

No Israel.....no Second Coming. Boilerplate Biblical doctrine.
I've been watching developments in Israel very carefully recently, and I am standing by Israel's side on this one for sure.

Opponents who are brushing off the monstrous attacks by Hamas saying that Palestinians have been murdered by Israel for decades are using an inaccurate parallel. There is no justification for the terror attacks against innocent children and civilians by Hamas. It was an act of blatant murder, and the perpetrators need to be brought to justice.

America needs to stand with Israel (one of our key strategic allies) through this one--no matter what the cost is. Evil (Satan) has struck. We need to defend and counter this with the grace and strength of God Almighty leading us into the battle against these forces of death and destruction.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Its not true for modern day either. Palestinians have been in the west bank and Gaza from the beginning of the ottoman empire
so Judaism, Christianity and islam are not in jerusalem worshiping in peace.

Please stop. You have no idea what i said.. and you keep responding with something that does not discuss anythign I said
 

Smoke

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Rubbish. Unless it is deliberate, it is not a war crime. Even in criminal law, the prosecution has to prove intent. Israel has no such intent. It's not only that they have a conscience (obviously lacking with Hamas), they know the confected outrage that arises from civilian deaths. I note that not one commentator critical of Israel has any idea of how to resolve the conflict, apart from killing every Jew and handing Israel over to the Arabs. God will ensure that this does not happen.

Do you not know the declaration made by the Arabs? "No recognition, no peace, no negotiation". That says it all.
Of course this is deliberate... It's deliberate indiscriminate bombing when you know your bombs will end more civilian lives than militant lives. Do you argue it was accidental?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I've been watching developments in Israel very carefully recently, and I am standing by Israel's side on this one for sure.

Opponents who are brushing off the monstrous attacks by Hamas saying that Palestinians have been murdered by Israel for decades are using an inaccurate parallel. There is no justification for the terror attacks against innocent children and civilians by Hamas. It was an act of blatant murder, and the perpetrators need to be brought to justice.

America needs to stand with Israel (one of our key strategic allies) through this one--no matter what the cost is. Evil (Satan) has struck. We need to defend and counter this with the grace and strength of God Almighty leading us into the battle against these forces of death and destruction.
Who has brushed off the horrible evil that Hamas has commited?
 

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Israel and the Rothschilds

Jeremiah 2:20 For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

All of these bankers and worshipping money over God, this is playing the harlot and it is a strange vine rather than a noble vine.

No one should doubt that modern Israel is filled with all kinds of idolatry.

Same is true of the Apostate church in the US and Jews in the US.
 

Smoke

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We have already pointed out that it is asymmetrical, everyone knows this. The population of those allied against Israel in this fight is 25 times as large as the population of Israel. So it is 25:1.
Just trying to understand, are you implying Israel doesn't have allies and that is why it's a 25:1 ratio?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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so Judaism, Christianity and islam are not in jerusalem worshiping in peace.

Please stop. You have no idea what i said.. and you keep responding with something that does not discuss anythign I said
If you call the Israeli assembly passing a bill to throw christians in prison for 1 year for evangelizing, amd throwing rocks at eachother near the mosque peace, you have a wierd notion of peace.
 

ZNP

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Just trying to understand, are you implying Israel doesn't have allies and that is why it's a 25:1 ratio?
Israel does not have allies that will put boots on the ground.

As for money, Biden wants to give 10 billion to Israel and 10 billion to the Palestinians. Hardly impacting the asymmetry of the war.

Biden gave $80 billion to the Taliban who are also joining this battle, and some estimates of his policies wind up giving Iran $146 billion, others $66 billion. With allies like that who needs enemies.
 

Smoke

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Their hero is a war mongering adulterous pedophile.

It is against the law in some places to tell the truth about Muhammad.
I've taken some heat from some of my Muslim friends for describing how we view men with child brides. They thought is was islamophobia, yet I've had Muslim work associates who confirm it unapologetically. It's really a confusing religion for me when I've tried to understand what it really is they believe.
 

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If you call the Israeli assembly passing a bill to throw christians in prison for 1 year for evangelizing, amd throwing rocks at eachother near the mosque peace, you have a wierd notion of peace.
people do that in the us..

the fact that Christians and Islam is allowed to be there period is unlike most nations on earth

what do muslims do to christians and jews who live n their territories?