Is God's Grace Sufficient to Keep Us from Sinning?

More specifically:

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.


The key words are "cannot go on" meaning they can't continue living in sin. It implies that one sins less and less as they continue in Christ. Not that they just stop sinning cold turkey the moment they're saved.


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More specifically:

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.


The key words are "cannot go on" meaning they can't continue living in sin. It implies that one sins less and less as they continue in Christ. Not that they just stop sinning cold turkey the moment they're saved.


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King James Bible
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

New King James Version
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

No. God's grace provides for salvation, not sinless perfection. God's grace also provides the opportunity for repentance, which we should practice daily.

Ephesians 4:26
“Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:”

We should not allow even righteous anger to result in wrath, but if it does, we can and should immediately repent.

Someday we shall live in a sinless state, but that is yet to come. Plead the blood of Jesus.

A righteous person has forgiveness thru grace for the soul but there are consequences for the body such as sickness and death.

The thorn in Paul's side was a messenger of satan... it was the devil doing that not the Lord.

The thorn in Paul's side was a messenger of satan... it was the devil doing that not the Lord.

Paul was dealing with a sin because Grace was apparently needed.

The Lord sometimes does not remove the thorn is what I am saying...Paul asked three times and God didnt do it, though we dont know if Paul asked a fourth time and He did.

2 CORINTHIANS 12:7 Because of the extraordinary greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me—to keep me from exalting myself!

It was the devil that sent the messenger, not God.

The Lord teaches His children by His Word and the Holy Spirit... not by sending demons to attack us and work in opposition to what the Lord has called us to do.

We know this because God is not schizophrenic where He calls someone to go do something and then tries to stop him from doing it.

So when the Lord said thru Paul that... it was a MESSENGER OF SATAN.... you think this means God sent the messenger?

Sure back in the day there were occasions when the Lord came against those that were in rebellion towards the Lord... the Apostle Paul was not in opposition to the Lord!

No, Paul was out preaching the gospel as the Lord had instructed him to go do... it's foolishness to think God calls someone to go do something then He tries to stop them from doing it!

Neither was Job in opposition.

Humility seems to be a quality in short supply these days.

Jesus said in Revelation 21:8 the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.

So, we know being in fear and being afraid and cowardly is a sin according to Jesus because those doing this will be thrown in to hell.

In the story about Job, you'll notice that when the devil is talking to God he mentions that God had placed a hedge of protection around Job which is why the devil could not touch him up till that point.

Job 3:25
For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.

And, in the story you'll notice it says job kept doing the same sacrifice again and again because he was in fear that his children would curse God. (see Job 3:25)

This establishes that Job was actually having a sin problem in his life because he was in fear. Because of this sin, satan has a right to come against Job which is why the hedge of protection was removed by the Lord because if we live after the flesh (sin) we reap corruption (Gal 6:7,8)

The devil did not even know the hedge was broken until the Lord told the devil was Job was in his hands already and the Lord limited satan so he could not kill Job.

Before Jesus Christ went to the cross and was resurrected in victory, the devil had the right to go before the Lord’s throne in Heaven which was based upon the authority God had given to Adam (let man have dominion – see Genesis 1:26-28).

After the cross the devil cannot go in to the third Heaven where the Father’s throne is anymore like he used to be able to do under the old covenant, not after Hebrews 9 where Jesus used His own Blood and cleansed the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than those of bulls and goats as under the old covenant.

The attack on Job was limited by the Lord and stopped when Job did a sacrifice in faith for his friends which would have been when he got back on track and was no longer in fear and this is when the hedge of protection from the Lord went back up protecting Job and you’ll notice in the story that Job did quite well after that because of the blessing of the Lord.

The Lord called Job righteous because the sin Job did by being in fear was something that was done in ignorance at the time. The Lord says in Romans 4:15 where no law is, there is no transgression.

Just like Paul found mercy in the eyes of the Lord because his sin was done in ignorance. (1 Timothy 1:13). Since Job was heart right before the Lord and did not have the entire Word of God in his hands to study like we do today, the Lord had mercy on Job and considered him to be a righteous man.

The reason being ignorant for us today doesn’t last for very long as a new born babe in Christ is simply because the Lord has provided us with the whole counsel of God in written form and He has sent the Holy Spirit to be our Teacher to lead and guide us in to ALL Truth and take what belongs to Jesus and will show it unto us (John 16:13-15). Jesus said that God’s Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

In Luke 12:48, Jesus said For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. More is required of us since the Lord has given us far more to work with than what Job had in his day.

Christians are called to “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you” (James 4:7), and those not doing this will experience what Job experienced because they aren’t abiding IN CHRIST which gives the devil an open door in to their lives due to the hedge of protection the Lord has provided to not be protecting them. The Lord’s protection is only applicable to those that are IN CHRIST





False humility claims God uses the devil as an attack dog to supposedly teach His children.... this is a satanic deception designed to get people to lay down so the demons can walk all over them and keep them in defeat.

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

Romans 8:14
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

But hey.... if you think laying down under satanic oppression is going to help you be closer to the Lord... go right ahead! Know thy self out!
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You are excellent at changing what people write to misrepresent others. That's called being a false witness.
You also use incendiary language to make yourself look better, and demean others. That isn't esteeming others better than yourself...not exactly acts of love or evidence of one led of the Spirit. Neither do I see your actions depicting love, peace or joy, not to mention goodness, gentleness, and or self control. These would surely be evidenced in one walking under the Spirit's direction. Who's fooling who?