Repent and be baptized, every one of you

I know someone who received the Holy Spirit before he was baptized with water. I am certain there are many who are saved who pass from this age without havinge been baptized with water, but I leave this type of judgement to the One Who always was authorized, yet went so far as to earn it on the Cross. Blessed be our Savior and Redeemer.

Amen! Mark 16:16 - He who believes and is baptized will be saved (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he who does not believe will be condemned.

The omission of baptized with "does not believe" shows that Jesus does not make baptism absolutely necessary for salvation. Condemnation rests on unbelief and not on a lack of baptism. *NOWHERE does the Bible say "baptized or condemned."

If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then we would expect Jesus to mention it in the following verses? (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26). Yet what is the 1 requirement that Jesus mentions 9 different times in each of these complete statements? *BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.

John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

I received the Holy Spirit and knew without a doubt that I had become born again the moment I placed my faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation several years ago on a late Saturday night, prior to receiving water baptism on Sunday morning.

Interesting that we are not treating Peter's opportunity to say "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ" in Acts 2:38 for the remission of sins and the Holy Spirit, yet choosing to instead "repent and be baptized" as more authoritative and proof of baptism's necessity.


Consider that

and



is sometimes used interchangeably, and belief in Him (part of repentance) and baptisms are implied in both usages.
because, at some point in our lives, we should all be (in bold)

That seems odd and incorrect.
By what standard? Most people today do not speak Elizabethan English.

The meaning you apply to the scripture suggests that Jesus said one thing and then immediately turns around and contradicts Himself.

Jesus stated both belief and baptism are required in order to be saved. He then emphasizes belief indicating that obedience to the command to be water baptized is in fact useless if a person does not in fact believe. Philip's interaction with the eunuch expresses the very same:

"And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. Acts 8:36-38

Jesus is the Word. As such, to believe is to accept all of what scripture reveals. To suggest Jesus said one thing and than immediately changed His mind is unreasonable. Jesus stated both belief and baptism are required in order to be saved. (Mark 16:15-16) He then emphasized belief indicating that obedience to the command to be water baptized is in fact useless if a person does not in fact believe. Philip's interaction with the eunuch expresses the very same. (Acts 8:36-38)

Suggesting that baptism is not required because some scriptures don't directly reference it does not negate its necessity. Various scriptures also point to the necessity of repentance, and being filled with the Holy Ghost. Are we to believe, as you suggest, that because they are not mentioned in all scriptures that they too are not necessary?

“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:12-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we haven’t all heard the exact same things is part of our issue as a church. So many denominations focus on so many different things and leave out the other things.

baptism is an act of faith we hear about it and believe which leads to the action of we hear and believe the truth

its meant to be an operation of faith like this

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

faith is like that you have to hear something first and then if you believe you will act they heard “ repent and be baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins”


And they believed it so of course who wouldn’t get baptized for remission of sins if they believed ?

Faith has a process the hearing has to come first

“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
‭‭James‬ ‭4:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If I hear the truth about baptism and what scripture says it is for the action is of faith it’s always the same process god speaks a word , man hears the word and acts on the word like this

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The power is in gods word but the effectual power is in faith of Moses hearing and believing and acting upon the word spoken by god the creator .

when he speaks light it is so

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as d when he speaks darkness it is so the difference is when he speaks to man the power worlds through man’s faith in him and the hearing of his word of effectual power and faith that moves mountains .

baptism is the same operation if we hear this and believe it the action is of faith

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That word is for every creature under heaven but the question is who will hear and believe it ? And who will reject it and explain another way ?

a faith needs to hear the truth about salvstion what Jesus said is that truth of salvstion

“ Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The truth is anyone in all creation who hears and believes the gospel and is baptized shall be saved. But that’s what the truth said

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

air all comes down to who will hear the lords word and accept it it’s life and rejection is condemnation

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

they shall be saved by that true faith

“But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Who will believe this report ?

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a you can tell who accepts it because they won’t try to explain it away and make what Jesus says there irrelevant and create some other form of salvation. It’s truly the hearing and belief . If I believe what Jesus said is going to save me I’ve believed the truth that will never change or fail

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as is the word of the gospel

“being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:23, 25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭

always true

“preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”

It’s a matter of who will hear and believe and know the truth

repentance and baptism is conjunctive here from the kai (and)
meaning both conditions are necessary to fulfill the statement


even if they were, necessarily, parenthesized by commas,
as in repent, and every one of you be baptized, for the remission of sins,
they would still be conjoined logically

Similarly, Acts 3:19 conjoins repentance with

which could imply baptism, unless he is using it superfluously, therefore it is unnecessary to pick repentance alone (slightly better than faith alone as refuted by James) over repentance and baptism, which is what Acts 2:38 inescapably states

It could also simply be that by "repent" he included certain actions that go along with that such as baptism.

Technically Acts 2:38 doesn't necessarily imply receiving the Holy Spirit after baptism,
His words could be interpreted as at some later point from then, because they didn't have the Holy Spirit yet,
they'd receive the Holy Spirit in response to them repenting and being baptized,
whether proactively (from God's foreknowledge) like with Cornelius perhaps, or retroactively

there is no grammatical reason showing that baptism is parenthetical in Acts 2:38, even though baptisms are not in Acts 10:43

This, however,

is also not in Acts 10:43, as well as this


Because the soteriological process is generalized sometimes, and needs to be unpacked.
Since Peter is not contradicting himself, it is much easier for Acts 10:43 to be implying baptism rather than Acts 2:38 somehow excluding baptism from the remission of sins.

Let's also, then, compare your (presumed) interpretation of Acts 10:45 with Acts 19 and Acts 8

Acts 19:5On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied. 7There were about twelve men in all

Not that I'm saying laying hands is always necessary, but if faith alone were necessary, did they all, twelve times in a row, happen to believe at the exact moment Paul laid his hands on them, yet having nothing to do with Paul laying his hands on them but only their faith?

Same here

Acts 8:
14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money

Amen, and Amen!

We’ve always had real agreement regarding baptism lol

Also relevant are the exact words spoken by Peter in Acts 10:43 that relate specifically to his command that the group submit to being water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. (Acts 10:47-48)

Acts 10:43 "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins."

Peter's statement reflects back to what was revealed on the first day the gospel message was presented: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR REMISSION OF SIN..." Acts 2:38

And, to God be all the glory my brother! Many times I would like to apply multiple icons on your posts. Appreciate your many inciteful comments.

Yea brother I say so much ….im bound to hit on something once in a while worth a darn hahaha and yes brother all glory always and forever in every way in every tongue belongs to begins with and ends with our Lord !!!

Actually when Peter preached on the day of Pentecost (everything prior to Acts 2:38) he was in fact saying "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". This also corresponded to what Christ said about Himself in John 11:25,26. There was no mention of baptism in that passage.

We get the impression from Acts 2:38 and Mark 16:16 that baptism is necessary for salvation. But 100 other verses make it clear that faith in Christ and His finished work is what God wants to see (along with genuine repentance).

Why are you so stubborn about this? are you saying that folks who have not been baptised are not saved? they number millions, the Salvation Army alone is a denomination that discourages baptism. I don't think they should but William Booth was afraid [rightly] that people would trust rather to baptism for salvation than trusting Christ.

Sacraments is doorway through which the devil gets into the church. Simon Magus would have gotten among the Christians but he came up against Simon Peter and the Holy Ghost.

Anyone can say I am baptised therefore I am a Christian. Baptism is something we can do therefore can be feigned. The new birth can't be feigned, at least not among mature Christians.

"You know"?

"You are certain"?

Fair question, where does this knowledge come from?

I stand firm because the word expresses that water baptism is necessary; it is God ordained that obedience to the command brings about remission of sin made possible by Jesus' sacrifice.

It is an error to reject what the word clearly says because so few people accept it. Jesus instructed people to enter in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT." Matt. 7:13-14

Consider as well that many think belief alone assures one's salvation. Yet, Jesus told those who no doubt believed in Him that He never knew them. (Matt. 7:23) Immediately after making that statement Jesus referenced the need for people to lay a proper foundation. Why do you think Jesus went right into explaining that? Could it be the people had not been buried with Jesus into His death wherein their sins were destroyed? (Rom. 6:3-6)

Note the writer of Hebrews expresses the foundation needs only be laid once, and what it consists of:
"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment." Heb 6:1-2

Yes there are countless that received the sweet holy Spirit after they were saved and before being baptized. We all can read Luke 11:13. I know one that was and he was 15. Wait wait.. its ME! haha. Yeah. Now we .. I can't express this enough we need to always watch what we say for those who are weak in the faith. See some at a young age hearing all this (before even the internet) will have to get baptized a few times. Yeah I did lol.

From what I read and understand no one has to be baptized first IF that's what's being said here. What should be really talked about is those that in 2023 believe on the lord Jesus Christ and ask "have you received the holy spirit since you believed". Just read Luke 11 13 don't listen to anyone just read what He said and maybe trust HIM or live with only the taste not the full.

In regard to Mark 16:16, see post #22. You fail miserably at properly harmonizing scripture with scripture before reaching your conclusion on doctrine.

Acts 8:35 - Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him. 36 Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?” 37 Then Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” Water baptism "follows" conversion. (Acts 10:43-47)

Compare with John 20:31 - but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. *What happened to baptism? Also, what happened to baptism in John 3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29.40.47; 11:25,26? Did Jesus forget to mention it? *Hermeneutics.

Your arguments on water baptism have already been refuted numerous times but you just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. Your biased church indoctrination runs deep.