There will be no Rapture!!!

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selahsays said:
Tell me. Who are the dead in Christ?
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The same specific group as "we which are alive and remain".

The one and only Church.

@TheDivineWatermark 's unblemished pre-trib winning streak remains unchallenged to this day.
Not even close man. I am frankly shocked that the same people keep showing up just to lose.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Nowhere does the Bible say the Church escapes Tribulation, it says it escaped Wrath.

Do you think what the Apostle John taught to his Disciples, was incorrect, about the Church will be here when the AC is revealed and the MOB begins and then Jesus Returns and we are gathered before the beheading starts?

because, I think the Apostle John, makes your views look like a fool, personally.
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Personally, I am utterly amazed and shocked at how few (if any) people have comprehended the truth of the matter. Especially given the stupendous and beautifully laid out biblical evidence.

Crazy man.

Frankly, I have spent DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS of hours carefully scrutinizing @TheDivineWatermark many superb pre-trib posts. Cross-checking, verifying, validating. Never saw one single error or mistake as far as I can tell.

That is an amazing streak of competency and scholarship. Everyone else sounds like an uneducated hayseed rube. Including me.
 
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cv5 said:
Except for the fact that the terms "Church" and "Christian" are never spoken from Rev 6 thru 18.

We are gone gone gone before ANY Rev 6 events.

Mid-trib is another unprovable hypothesis, and should you peruse my last number of posts you would see how.
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I'm not claiming mid-trib. I'm claiming the tribulation is only 42 months. Where in scripture is the tribulation 7 years?
 
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cv5 said:
Except for the fact that the terms "Church" and "Christian" are never spoken from Rev 6 thru 18.

We are gone gone gone before ANY Rev 6 events.

Mid-trib is another unprovable hypothesis, and should you peruse my last number of posts you would see how.
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Nowhere does the Bible say the Church escapes Tribulation, it says it escaped Wrath.

Do you think what the Apostle John taught to his Disciples, was incorrect, about the Church will be here when the AC is revealed and the MOB begins and then Jesus Returns and we are gathered before the beheading starts?

because, I think the Apostle John, makes your views look like a fool, personally.
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and remember, JOHN, wrote Revelation.
Therefore, John knows the interpretation better, as in factual.
 
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selahsays said:
Tell me. Who are the dead in Christ?
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Those who are in the body of Christ who have physically died and their souls are with the Lord. Their dead bodies will rise first before the Lord catches up the entire body of Christ in the air. All of our bodies will be changed to be like him.
 
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cv5 said:
Personally, I am utterly amazed and shocked at how few (if any) people have comprehended the truth of the matter. Especially given the stupendous and beautifully laid out biblical evidence.

Crazy man.

Frankly, I have spent DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS of hours carefully scrutinizing @TheDivineWatermark many superb pre-trib posts. Cross-checking, verifying, validating. Never saw one single error or mistake as far as I can tell.

That is an amazing streak of competency and scholarship. Everyone else sounds like an uneducated hayseed rube. Including me.
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i don't care if you wiped with your right hand and then changed to your left hand, Watermark's views, go against the Apostle John, WHO wrote Revelation, and would know the interpretation factually, like we read in Irenaeus' account.
 
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John146 said:
Those who are in the body of Christ who have physically died and their souls are with the Lord. Their dead bodies will rise first before the Lord catches up the entire body of Christ in the air. All of our bodies will be changed to be like him.
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I agree with the first part. Thx.
 
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John146 said:
I'm not claiming mid-trib. I'm claiming the tribulation is only 42 months. Where in scripture is the tribulation 7 years?
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Well......the second half is tribulation specifically called "Jacob's trouble".
But this does not change the fact that the duration of the tribulation = 70th week = 7 years, and continues a full 7 years.
Furthermore, IT ONLY BEGINS AFTER THE RAPTURE!

The relevance of this fact is inescapable. For some anyways lol.
 
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John146 said:
Those who are in the body of Christ who have physically died and their souls are with the Lord. Their dead bodies will rise first before the Lord catches up the entire body of Christ in the air. All of our bodies will be changed to be like him.
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I believe that at the 7th trump, those who are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye into spiritual bodies and at this very moment, will enter into the millennium (here on earth).
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
i don't care if you wiped with your right hand and then changed to your left hand, Watermark's views, go against the Apostle John, WHO wrote Revelation, and would know the interpretation factually, like we read in Irenaeus' account.
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TDW is smoking you. And schooling you. Its quite horrific to watch frankly.

BTW......all of Daniels prophecies are directed to Israel. Gentiles are along for the ride. Just to let you know.
 
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selahsays said:
I believe that at the 7th trump, those who are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye into spiritual bodies and at this very moment, will enter into the millennium (here on earth).
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Believe what you want. But that is definitely not what the Bible plainly declares.
 
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TDW is smoking you. And schooling you. Its quite horrific to watch frankly.

BTW......all of Daniels prophecies are directed to Israel. Gentiles are along for the ride. Just to let you know.
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you obviously are a special needs person because this is about Revelation, which the post of yours I quoted, was about Revelation [not Daniel].

you are being walked like a dog, and like a dog, you're too busy chasing your butt than seeking the TRUTH!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
you obviously are a special needs person because this is about Revelation, which the post of yours I quoted, was about Revelation [not Daniel].

you are being walked like a dog, and like a dog, you're too busy chasing your butt than seeking the TRUTH!
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Lol.....honestly, that what you came up with huh?
You have been quoting Daniel till the cows come home, misapplying it to Christians and the rapture.
And I have to actually type this post to mentally que you into the connection that I am making to your earlier posts.
All of which are leading you to erroneous assumptions and conclusions.

Hopeless.
 
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Lol.....honestly, that what you came up with huh?
You have been quoting Daniel till the cows come home, misapplying it to Christians and the rapture.
And I have to actually type this post to mentally que you into the connection that I am making to your earlier posts.
All of which are leading you to erroneous assumptions and conclusions.

Hopeless.
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tell me, since you think the 1290 and 1335 days are for the Jews, which partially they are concerning end of Daily Sacrifice and Abomination, when were these days fulfilled seeing NOTHING is mentioned specifically in 70 AD to even apply it to Daniel 12?

and in referencing, Daniel 12, to the future ending of Daily Sacrifice at 1290 days, what does the 1335 days represent in YOUR MYTHICAL DOCTRINE?

WHY ARE THEY HAPPY at day 1335, other than fulfilling 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
tell me, since you think the 1290 and 1335 days are for the Jews, which partially they are concerning end of Daily Sacrifice and Abomination, when were these days fulfilled seeing NOTHING is mentioned specifically in 70 AD to even apply it to Daniel 12?

and in referencing, Daniel 12, to the future ending of Daily Sacrifice at 1290 days, what does the 1335 days represent in YOUR MYTHICAL DOCTRINE?

WHY ARE THEY HAPPY at day 1335, other than fulfilling 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3?
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once daily sacrifice ends at day 1290 and the JEWS go HIDE in Petra, SO, [[[who]]], is HAPPY at day 1335 [that Jesus says WILL BE HAPPY in Daniel 12], because, the JEWS are HIDING and AFRAID/SCARED in Petra come day 1335?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
once daily sacrifice ends at day 1290 and the JEWS go HIDE in Petra, SO, [[[who]]], is HAPPY at day 1335 [that Jesus says WILL BE HAPPY in Daniel 12], because, the JEWS are HIDING in Petra come day 1335?
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Just keep in mind how he's going to react when the AC is revealed and he's still here. He'll probably come here begging the admins to delete all his foolish posts.

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So, we KNOW it ain't the JEWS, who are happy in Day 1335 [because the JEWS are hiding scared to death for their lives in Petra from the AC]. so, who are these people, that will be HAPPY [Jesus' own Words in Daniel 12] since it ain't the JEWS?

the CHURCH, is WHO, is happy at Day 1335!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
I said, where in the Scripture is it mentioned about a Secret Coming of Jesus?
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The "secret" is only hidden from unbelievers. But believers know that when "the fulness of the Gentiles" is accomplished within the Church, the Rapture will take place. When that will happen is is God's hands. See Romans 11.
That still benefits NO ONE, because, No One knows when the Tribulation will actually begin.
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Actually we do know when the Tribulation will actually begin. It will begin with the start of the reign of the Antichrist. See Revelation 12 and 13.
 
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