For the Christian, when does God forgive sins?

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Magenta

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Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

- Ephesians 1:1-6 (KJV)

Those predestined are the elect.

From Ephesians 1:4-6
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selahsays

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Not everyone is elect. Some of us have free will, and that’s just as good as being elect if we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior.
 

selahsays

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Look here what God said to Jeremiah.

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child. But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.

- Jeremiah 1:5-7 (KJV)

Jeremiah was chosen by God.
 

Magenta

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Not everyone is elect. Some of us have free will, and that’s just as good as being elect if we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior.
Deuteronomy 30:6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live. :)
 

Aussie52

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With this view, what would you say happens to a Christian who commits a sin, but then is killed/dies before he says a prayer of confession to God for that sin?
I would say that they are covered by the grace of God.
One does not fall from grace over one sin but rather a deliberate rejection of one's Christian faith.
 
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You cannot be an Atheist unless You oppose the idea of God.
So, it's a personal choice to deny/reject God.

But, how did the Atheist come about knowing God to Reject/Deny God?

90% claim to know Christian's and see no difference to change who they are.

I wonder what are these Christians doing that is not Christ like to confirm someone remaining an Atheist?

What is Predestination for the Christian, to act in a manner so many times, that it confirms no need to believe in God?
 

Blade

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Talking about sin.. the word of God says "For since the Law has only a shadow [just a pale representation] of the good things to come—not the very image of those things—it can never, by offering the same sacrifices continually year after year, make perfect those who approach [its altars]. For if it were otherwise, would not these sacrifices have stopped being offered? For the worshipers, having once [for all time] been cleansed, would no longer have a consciousness of sin. "

So here some are still consciousness of sin. They make the blood of Jesus common. In other words not good enough. OT our Father GOD the great I AM said “FOR I WILL BE MERCIFUL and GRACIOUS TOWARD THEIR WICKEDNESS, AND I WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE.”

I can't find any "if ands or buts" in that.
 
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I am driving and something stupid happens and you escape without incident but could have been bad, you might sin in a manner that is only the kind of sin when you get caught up in a life moment. That is not a sin that God is concerned about. He knows you before you finally kind of know your own self.

it's the sin that in no matter what form it presents itself, you, just can't say no. You have never killed it. Never crucified your flesh over like Paul instructed to Daily. but you commit it over and over and over and finally gotten to a point where it's all good, I got the Grace of God to fall back on.

What if your sin was [[NOT]] forgiving those who sinned against you?

Jesus said, your own Sins would not be forgiven.

How can a Christian, who does not forgive others, so their own sins ""are not"" forgiven, be living life of Eternal Security?
 

selahsays

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You cannot be an Atheist unless You oppose the idea of God.
So, it's a personal choice to deny/reject God.

But, how did the Atheist come about knowing God to Reject/Deny God?

90% claim to know Christian's and see no difference to change who they are.

I wonder what are these Christians doing that is not Christ like to confirm someone remaining an Atheist?

What is Predestination for the Christian, to act in a manner so many times, that it confirms no need to believe in God?
…but not everyone who claims to be Christian actually is. —Only those who do the will of the Father.

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

- Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
 
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…but not everyone who claims to be Christian actually is. —Only those who do the will of the Father.

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

- Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
isn't the Will of the Father to fulfill Matthew 28 and the Commission?

And why God has placed You where only You can share Jesus to the people only you will ever meet and cross paths with?
 
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I have traveled many places and lived in many States. All those People I met and crossed Paths with was one way God had intended for that Person to MEET God. I am personally not Responsible, but Accountable, for if I introduced God to them or not.

< My Hat, that fixes it real good now.

Everyone with eyes will most likely read this hat.

It's Fracking, which in a Democratic States, is the enemy and it now has written "Jesus Saves" on it. Two things Liberals Hate! But this hat can say more to Every Walk of Life than I could by quoting 5 Scriptures. And you can "feel" the hate for God. It's alarming. Here in the so-called United States, that much hatred for God.
 

selahsays

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isn't the Will of the Father to fulfill Matthew 28 and the Commission?

And why God has placed You where only You can share Jesus to the people only you will ever meet and cross paths with?
…because God is in control. Did you notice how God told Jeremiah exactly what he was to do? That’s because God chose Jeremiah and had a job for him to do. God will always “interfere” in the lives of His elect. The elect have no choice as do Christians with free will who have the Holy Spirit as their Counselor.
 
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i was in the frozen items sections aisle's when a man, wearing a dress, stopped, read my hat, cut in front of me to open up the frozen item section, grabbed his item, and proceeded to walk away before i reached out and tapped him on the shoulder. i said, next time, you read God and disrespect Him, I'll cast that demon out possessing you and then you can see how stupid you look in that dress to all of us.

People, who rebel, oppose God, are under a Reprobate mind and you are the enemy. They are butting their way into societal beliefs and we are to call it out.
 
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…because God is in control. Did you notice how God told Jeremiah exactly what he was to do? That’s because God chose Jeremiah and had a job for him to do. God will always “interfere” in the lives of His elect. The elect have no choice as do Christians with free will who have the Holy Spirit as their Counselor.
but they do have the power of choice. how many times has the Holy Spirit said give this person money or tell this person God loves them, or this person needs God, but the CHOICE you made was doing none of them?
 
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people think God just controls them hahahahaha
He directs our Path, we have to take each step after that according to His direction.
 

Dino246

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You definitely hit the nail on the head here as far as the basis for forgiveness: it is the blood of Christ shed on Calvary - "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin."

Maybe you can view my question as trying to make sense of whose sins then are the ones that are forgiven? If everyone in the world has their sins forgiven when Jesus died on Calvary, then everyone who ever lived will get to heaven.
I would maintain that forgiveness is applied at the moment of belief.
 

SpeakTruth101

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I would maintain that forgiveness is applied at the moment of belief.
According to one of Yahshua/Jesus disciples just believeing is not enough.

James 2:17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead."

Dont attack me Im just quoting one of His chosen
 

selahsays

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@Dino246

Why did you give me a ❌? I’m definitely not a Calvinist.