Confusion about Sodom and Gomorrah

So this is wrong. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible were not destroyed because of homosexuality. In fact, the Bible tells us exactly why they were destroyed. Ezekiel 16:49 says, and I quote, “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom. They were arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned, and they did not help the poor and the needy.” According to the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, not because of homosexuality, but because they were inhospitable, they were selfish. They didn’t care for the orphan and the stranger. In fact, if you know the story, they were destroyed because a gang of men came to rape two angels when they appeared at Lot’s house. I find it really interesting that we Christians continually misinterpret stories that have a word that convicts us to be stories that convict those people that we’re afraid of. Christians are often inhospitable and unwelcoming to strangers, but it’s far easier for us to make this story about homosexuals than to own up to that.
My Opinion and clear understanding. i hope it helps

I understand the story of Sodom and agree homosexuality is sin
I cannot find answers to these scriptures and hope a brother or sister can help me
I am uncomfortable asking my pastor or anyone in Church

Genesis 19:4-5 NIV:4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house.

My research always has articles saying it doesn't really mean every male yet the scripture makes it clear with 3 steps...all the men plus every part of the city plus young and old .Is it teaching that every male in Sodom became homosexual rapists including the men engaged to the daughters of Lot?
Do most of the men become heterosexuals 'after going back to their wives and children?
Was it a case of mass demon possession?

6 Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, 7 and said, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. 8 Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof.”

Lot knowing the people of Sodom...why then would he offer his daughters to homosexual men? its common knowledge homosexuals have zero interest in females...its like offering meat to a vegetarian.....why is this scripture overlooked? is it possible the majority of the men were heterosexuals' and the rape which is a violent act was to degrade and break the spirit of the "men" .......this was preformed at that time in history as a severe degrading punishment
Was it that God gave them over to homosexual acts like in Romans1?


Ezekiel 16:49-50 NIV :49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

This scripture I understand why it is ignored as it shows us including myself guilty of some of these sins such as greed, especially overfed{gluttony}
This scripture does include detestable things which would be homosexual acts and outside of marriage heterosexuals' acts.Most give an offering of 10 percent but do they care about "the poor and needy" the children that starve to death every 3 minutes? choosing not to store there treasure in heaven but rather bank investments or property



I understand we should concentrate only on what Jesus taught and draw closer to Him but I keep hearing about this sin of homosexuality as the worst or only real sin and the hate it creates in the hearts of Christians.All scripture is the word of God and contains truth and must make sense and not what we want it to say


Thank you very much for reading and i look forward to hopefully getting some explanation of truth and understanding

I think you are too focused on orientation. Mens raised in that perverted culture might have engaged in sex with men, too. The obsession with people having a 'sexual orientation' is recent, from recent decades. Maybe you can't relate because the idea of having sex with a man is gross. It's good if you have those kinds of sexual mores. Some of us still do. But men raised in an idolatrous, sexually perverse culture might not have had the same scruples.

There are sometimes where 'everyone' doesn't literally mean everyone. It's pretty obvious that Lot wasn't trying to get in there and rape anyone and he was a man in the city.

God gave men over to various lusts, including men lusting after men, because of idolatry. If the men in the city weren't degenerates, then having sex with a man wouldn't have been a consideration. But they, and their culture, was so perverted that they would consider such a thing. Men having sex with men is a horrible sin. The idea of 'sexual orientation' as we hear it today is a modern concept, not some kind of universal truth

I never heard anyone say that homosexuality is the worst sin. There were many death penalty sins in the Old Testament. Men having sex with men was one of them. But so was men having sex with animals. So was sex with one's neighbor's wife. Murder was another death penalty sin.

There are Men who have wives and children but who also engage in homosexual activity.. Do you know about Bi-sexuals who engage in sexual relations with both genders.. There are normally straight males who go to prison and start to engage in homosexual relationships all the while thinking of themselves as heterosexuals who engage with other men simply because no woman is available.. So with all that in mind you could end up with a situation that a town could end up with all the men engaging in sexual relationships with both woman and men.. Effectively becoming a town of bi-sexual men in practice..

That's a misconception as far as the Biblical Christianity is concerned.. The sexual act of homosexuality is a sin just as adultery is a sin or fornication is a sin.. It may seem to an unbeliever that Christians are fixated on homosexuality but the reason why some Christians talk about Homosexuality is because they are reacting to and trying to counter the gay pride movement..

The gay pride movement seeks to convince homosexuals that their sin is not sin, that they do not need to repent of it or seek the atonement of The LORD Jesus for the forgiveness of their sin.. To Christians this means that if the gay pride movement is successful ( and it has been successful in the minds of many homosexuals and others ) them this will remove homosexuals from seeking the atonement of Jesus and thus remove the opportunity they have for salvation.. So the gay pride movement that tells homosexuals that their OK and that their life style is good are actually leading homosexuals into the eternal lake of fire.. While Christians who are telling homosexuals that their sexual acts are an abomination to God are actually seeking to save homosexuals from the eternal lake of fire..

It is not about hate in the hearts of Christians - it is about Christians having a proper understanding of just how much God hates it.

When God created everything, he put into place - according to His perfect wisdom - the "proper use" of the male body and of the female body. The sin of homosexuality violates the "proper use" of the body.

So this is wrong. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible were not destroyed because of homosexuality. In fact, the Bible tells us exactly why they were destroyed. Ezekiel 16:49 says, and I quote, “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom. They were arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned, and they did not help the poor and the needy.” According to the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, not because of homosexuality, but because they were inhospitable, they were selfish. They didn’t care for the orphan and the stranger. In fact, if you know the story, they were destroyed because a gang of men came to rape two angels when they appeared at Lot’s house. I find it really interesting that we Christians continually misinterpret stories that have a word that convicts us to be stories that convict those people that we’re afraid of. Christians are often inhospitable and unwelcoming to strangers, but it’s far easier for us to make this story about homosexuals than to own up to that.
My Opinion and clear understanding. i hope it helps

In the story, Lots daughters were engaged? Or married, so why did he offer them, or was that a ruse.
It seemed he was more, my daughters are virgins. Perverts seem to want virgins it didnt seem to actually matter what 'orientation' a person is.

It would seem in sodoms culture anyone new or young was fair game. Otherwise he would have offered his wife, or himself. If I was the daughter I would have been horrified, but people actually do offer up their own children/offspring for all manner of things and sell them out and throw them under the bus.

In places like Thailand where sex trafficking is the norm, parents sell their own children, and of course this used to happen in slave cultures, and it happens in many schools, univerisities, the new young freshmen/recruits are hazed or told to be a slave to the older students...if they want to fit in

First off only Lot recognized The Angels of the Lord....nobody else.

Secondly Abraham had questioned God about Sodom as God told Abraham what was going to happen to Sodom.

Lot sat in the gate of Sodom....he was a city elder. Meaning that Sodom was not a lawless city. They had guards and police and regulations. For a huge group to come after Lot's guests this way....meant that EVERYONE knew what was going to happen and did nothing or cared. No police were called and likely some outside Lot's door were the city guards and police.

Then there's more recent studies that suggest that over 80% of homosexuals are really bisexual....meaning that it truly is a choice of lifestyle despite claims otherwise.

Then finally....it was a form of judgment by the men of Sodom on whom they perceived to be simple visitors to the city they felt judged by. (God does have the right to judge and men do not)
So as a punishment they were going to rape the visitors even though they were in Lot's house and under his protection.

Lot offered his daughters....which was a valuable prize and sought after thing. But the men of Sodom had their feelings hurt and wanted revenge by means of rape.

Canaan, the land Sodom was in, was full of stories of urbanization and especially de-urbanization. Entire cities would evaporate and disappear after slowly building up by clans moving and settling into an area. Some because of disease and some because of lack of water. But Sodom had water "well watered plain towards Sodom" . Lot was wealthy because God had blessed him while he was a nephew of Abraham. Lot refused to apologize to Abraham over the earlier quarreling.

God visited Lot in Sodom and they hated God and wished to rape him......
Guess what? Didn't work out for the whole city.
And stubborn Lot?
He ended up sleeping with his own daughters whose descendants harass and destabilize the middle east to this day.

What you are missing here is the extent of the moral context. What these men wanted to do was so heinous - one of the things that God calls an abomination - that Lot was trying to avoid even allowing it to happen. By "offering his daughters", Lot was saying in effect:

"If you must do something, at least keep it within the confines of 'normal' - [please] do not perform this abomination before God."

(The word 'normal' meaning 'according to the proper use that God ordained'.)

Today, the moral context has been "softened" to the point that we (as a society, and - sometimes - as Christians) make jokes about it. This ought not be. It should be so abhorrent to us that we do not give it the slightest inkling of 'glory'. But, we have been "conditioned" to "accept" it at some level in our thinking.

In Lot's day, just how much of an abomination it really was was very well understood. It was unthinkable for any right-thinking person.

You have to grasp just how serious this was in the eyes of Lot to understand why he suggested something like that...

First off only Lot recognized The Angels of the Lord....nobody else.

Not so sure about that.

If you go back to Genesis 6, how do you get a nephilim?

*at least* most of the men of the city in a mob come to Lot's house and surround it. they are desperate to get their hands on the angels, even after they are miraculously struck blind. these are extraordinary measures.

Lot is not an insignificant person - he's the beloved nephew of Abraham, who has the most powerful army in the region. in recent history (at the time) Abraham and his men had overcome an army that had completely vanquished Sodom.

so imagine you are a citizen of Sodom - what compels you to essentially declare war in a single night on the nephew of the leader of the most powerful army in the area? lust? really? what is so important to Sodom about getting their hands on these angels that they risk their city being attacked and destroyed by Abraham?

did they act like this for every stranger that entered the town?
How many people had Lot sheltered in his house before this? why was he sitting watching the gate that day - was that his habit? Was he running a little underground railroad in Sodom?


IMO there is a lot more going on in that city than simple sexual perversion. God doesnt blow up entire cities often - if this was just about homosexuality why hasn't San Francisco been destroyed?

Lot had no army whatsoever....wherever you got that notion get rid of it. It doesn't have even a remote possibility to be true.

i was referring to Abraham; see Genesis 14

Yes...Abraham did. But you insinuate that Lot had access to them....

Second nephilim are not half angel half men weird human beings with superpowers. Get rid of that notion too....it's from a fantasy fiction book

I completely dismantled your standing in this discussion

..I keep hearing about this sin of homosexuality as the worst or only real sin and the hate it creates in the hearts of Christians..