SO MANY FALSE PASTORS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, a fool with a theology college degree is still just a fool, that's why our only pastor/ minister should be Jesus himself..-
Jesus said- "Call nobody teacher except me" (Matt 23:8-10)
And he warns us-
"Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)
They can't get under the bible's radar..
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." (2 Cor 11:13/14)
False prophets will bring damnable heresies and false teachers" (2 Peter 2:1)
Ungodly men have slipped in among you" (Jude 4:4)

Generally speaking, churchianity is something we all can take or leave. For those who enjoy attending and supporting it, I have no issues with them doing so. What I find most striking about that model is that it's not churning out spiritual giants. That generally entails the institutional pastors putting themselves out of a job, and that clearly is not at all what they want. Career building in a setting of the audience held in perpetual sheepdom is what that model mostly exemplifies.

What most churchianity attendees and supporters don't seem to understand is that each professing believer is responsible for their own learning and growth. All are without excuse for remaining in a static state of ignorance and perpetual milk-drinking! When the institutional model is the teat upon which the masses feed, all without any desire to grow into the spiritual giants to which we are all called, that's on each one of them, not others who fail to spur them on to greater heights.

MM

Yes..-
"Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Philip 2:12 KJV)

Right..

These are simply additional outflows that demonstrate the inferiority of the institutional model, based on its being man-made. The institutional model is not at all representative of the (C)hurch.

For those who want validation for that fact:

1) No unbeliever, and no values and morals within the mean-spirited hearts of unbelievers, will ever enter into the population of the (C)urch since the (C)urch is God-breathed rather than man-made. The (C)hurch remains clean and undefiled by those to whom Christ will say, "Depart from me, for I never knew you!" The (C)hurch is not defined and is not confined within walls built by the hands of men.

2) Unbelievers of every stripe can and do darken the doorsteps, and even join the membership roles, of the institutional model, warming its seating with their bodies filled with unrepentant sin and disbelief.

That "church of Engliand," that too is purely man-made, steeped in political intrigue and avarice, so I personally have no regard for it!

MM

Maybe someone should start an Op called
SO MANY FALSE ARMCHAIR THEOLOGIANS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Just thinking outloud....

Amen! Thanks Be Unto God For His:

ALL-Sufficient Work On The Cross!

Amen.

Actually, that should also include lettered theologians (those with accredited lettering attached to their names) who are as prone to gross error as the armchair theologians. There are some with large quantities of letters attached to their names who are as wrong as the day is long.

MM

Ah, but the extreme levels of "reformed" theology would say that it doesn't matter what one does or thinks since their salvation, or lack thereof, had nothing to do with their own personal choices since Yah allegedly created the majority of mankind purposed for populating Hell...

MM

Yes and when they wake up every morning they should thank God for giving them another day of life on earth to repent and turn to Jesus.
But if they die unrepentant all their chances have finally run out-
"He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." (Revelation 22:11)

I disagree with your opening statement, which is wrong in its simplicity and exhaustiveness. Cain’s evil (murder of Abel) was not motivated by love of money. It’s an error of scope.

Hello Muicmaster. Talking of extreme doctrines, it reminds me of the scripture: “whoever fears God will avoid all extremes” (Ecclesiastes 7:18). Perhaps there is a balance to be struck, human choices can have an effect, but if God's will doesn't also have an effect (and rightly a greater effect) then we're giving him less of a will than we permit ourselves. God Bless You

I'm curious as to what version of the Bible you quoted?

MM

The NIV. God Bless You

Wow. I had never seen this verse in the NIV and compared it to another, like the NAS, and to see the dichotomy that exists between versions.

MM

Unfortunately, when you listen to the words of men rather than study the words of God, you are easily deceived and led astray.

i'm not attending church steadily, haven't been since covid. totally, i wish i was. i certainly tried a bunch but they are boring. here's the story on a church i last attended on Sep 1st: 3 times during the service the pastor said, "it's in the Bible in........ no, it's over in......well it's in the Bible somewhere"!!! holy heavens, you're a pastor? from 2009 til 2016, i also tried a bunch of churches, a lot of them. nothing doing! the church i attended from 2017 til 2020, had the same rhythm pattern for every song. now that's sad. so i keep listening & or watching: Uceff, Rogers, Prince, C Stanley, Jeffres, MacGee, Hutchins, Swindoll, C Smith, K Hagin, Jeremiah, Hibbs, Colsen, C. Kapps, W Kroll, G Lawrie & a bunch of others.