Paul saw the ten commandments as part of the "ministry of death."

Every hear of Stockholm Syndrome? You should look into it.

I quote Scripture and this is your reply... Comical slander devoid of any real discussion.

Act 5:32, “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom YHWH has given to those who obey Him.”

Isaiah 51:7, “Listen to Me, you who know righteousness, a people in whose heart is My Torah (Instructions/Law): do not fear the reproach of men, nor be afraid of their reviling.”

I'm enjoying my freedom. How's that bondage thing workin' out for ya?

Im free. I am quoting Scripture you are making personal attacks.

"The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law." 1 Corinthians 15:56

Who cares if someone wants to obey the Commandments or not?

It doesn't matter how anyone answers this because EVERY single SIN is listed in the 10 Commandments.

Which means, to reject Sin, is to reject how God defined Sin. And therefore, one, is ultimately rejecting God Himself.

Ministry of Defense = when we Stand before God, aside from Rejecting God, a Person is held accountable for what SINS they Committed [10 Commandments] and did not have Blotted Out by the Covering of the Blood of Christ.

We, who have been Regenerated, these Sins, can still become a Stronghold and Road Block to our Walk in God.

There's NO SUCH THING, I can go commit a SIN because it is ALREADY Forgiven....NO it is NOT.
A SIN, must first be COMMITTED, and then Repented for, before, it leaves the Memory of God!

Some passages that come to mid:

Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”

1 John 1:5-10,5 And this is the message which we have heard from Him and announce to you, that Elohim is light and in Him is no darkness at all."6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and are not doing the truth."7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of יהושע Messiah His Son cleanses us from all sin."8 If we say that we have no sin, we are misleading ourselves, and the truth is not in us."9 If we confess our sins, He is trustworthy and righteous to forgive us the sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

Hebrews 7:23-25, " 23 The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office, 24 but he holds his priesthood permanently, because he continues forever. 25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I write these things to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father: Yahshua Messiah, the Righteous; and He is the sacrifice of atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

You are isolating and twisting a single verse/passage to cancel out the majority of the Word, just as Peter warned against.

2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."

1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."

Exodus 20:6, “But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.”

John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”

1 John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”

Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

John 5:43, “I have come in My Father's Name, but you do not follow Me. Let another come in his own name; him you will follow.”

1 Peter 2:21, “This is, in fact, what you were called to do, because Christ also suffered for you and left an example for you to follow in His steps.”

1 John 2:6, “The one who says that he abides in him must live the same way he (Jesus) himself lived.”

So we can choose to follow the flesh or the Spirit.

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

He can empower us to change

Hebrews 10:16, "“This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them.”

Jeremiah 24:7, “And I shall give them a heart to know Me, that I am יהוה. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength, for they shall turn back to Me with all their heart.”

Happy and free here. How's life under the law?

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

ages foretelling a law that would come from him in the future and judgements that he would give in the future when he came to make that new covenant

It’s not the old covenant word of Moses that’s not Christian law the word of Christ the lord is Christian law hat is supposed to be written on thier hesrt that’s why the things Jesus said are all about hearing his word and believing it that’s what gets it on the heart

Jesus was saying “ I’m going to come hear my words keep my judgements “ he wasn’t saying “ I’m going to come and re wrote Moses law on your heart “

this actually is clearly settled early in the church a group of Pharisees was saying “ in order to be saved on need to get circumcised in the manner of Moses and keep Moses law “

the apostes got together and discussed this issue that was causing problems in the church between former Jews and gentiles this is what they said

“But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. ( this is everything Moses wrote )

And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

( peters response ) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?


( James decision ) Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. ( these four elements are all from the law )

(They finally wrote a letter to end the issue )

forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭15:5-6, 10, 19-21, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law doesn’t go together with the gospel it’s this

“Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions,

till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;

and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That isn’t the father son and Holy Ghost speaking it’s Jesus giving authority to an unforgiving angel who mediated the law from God to Moses and then noses mediated to the people

gods law doesn’t have those dispositions imprinted on it it’s just Jesus the lord come to save man speaking his words and judgements to all just like he promised he would long beforehand

Christ is the lawgiver not Moses it’s just a matter of switching from the old mediation of Moses to the new and eternal of Christ Jesus our lord who can and spoke and said “ if you believe me and follow your going to be saved “

You keep saying that over and over, it is not the "got you" that you appear to think it is. Your inability to discuss the many verses I have posted and only isolate a single passage shows some deception or uncertianty.

Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”

Matt 13:41-43, "The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."

You continually make righteous Commands a supposed bad thing. You appear to mistake mercy for licentiousness.

The COmmands/Law are love and doing them as intended is love.

1 John 4:19, “We love Him because He first loved us.”

1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."

Exodus 20:6, “But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.”

John/Yahanan 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”

Sin is evil. Sin is breaking the Law.

Happy and free here. How's life under the law?

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

ages foretelling a law that would come from him in the future and judgements that he would give in the future when he came to make that new covenant

It’s not the old covenant word of Moses that’s not Christian law the word of Christ the lord is Christian law hat is supposed to be written on thier hesrt that’s why the things Jesus said are all about hearing his word and believing it that’s what gets it on the heart

Jesus was saying “ I’m going to come hear my words keep my judgements “ he wasn’t saying “ I’m going to come and re wrote Moses law on your heart “

this actually is clearly settled early in the church a group of Pharisees was saying “ in order to be saved on need to get circumcised in the manner of Moses and keep Moses law “

the apostes got together and discussed this issue that was causing problems in the church between former Jews and gentiles this is what they said

“But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. ( this is everything Moses wrote )

And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

( peters response ) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?


( James decision ) Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. ( these four elements are all from the law )

(They finally wrote a letter to end the issue )

forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭15:5-6, 10, 19-21, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law doesn’t go together with the gospel it’s this

“Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions,

till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;

and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That isn’t the father son and Holy Ghost speaking it’s Jesus giving authority to an unforgiving angel who mediated the law from God to Moses and then noses mediated to the people

gods law doesn’t have those dispositions imprinted on it it’s just Jesus the lord come to save man speaking his words and judgements to all just like he promised he would long beforehand

Christ is the lawgiver not Moses it’s just a matter of switching from the old mediation of Moses to the new and eternal of Christ Jesus our lord who can and spoke and said “ if you believe me and follow your going to be saved “

I agree with this, I think these are a few passages showing it's about the ministry of the priesthood, a priesthood that can not be corrupted...

Psalm 110:4, “יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.”

Hebrews 7:13, “For He of whom this is said belongs to another tribe, from which no one had attended at the Altar. For it is perfectly clear that our Master arose from Yehuḏah, a tribe about which Mosheh never spoke of concerning priesthood.”

Hebrews 7:11-12, “Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed (#G3346), there is made of necessity a change (#G3331) also of the law.”

changed (#G3346), change (#G3331)

In english, both change..., in the Greek they are similar but different words with different meanings.

we do not live by the LAW, but the LAW still exist because SIN still exist.
Until SIN is done away with, the LAW, will remain!

You keep saying that over and over, it is not the "got you" that you appear to think it is. Your inability to discuss the many verses I have posted and only isolate a single passage shows some deception or uncertianty.

Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”

Matt 13:41-43, "The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."

You continually make righteous Commands a supposed bad thing. You appear to mistake mercy for licentiousness.


I touched on this in an earlier post. SO mostly I agree but if you read the Greek of Hebrews it is much more descriptive than the english translation



Matthew 5:17-18, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill*1. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

Has heaven and earth passed away? If not then according to Yahshua the Law has not changed. It happens at a future time:

Revelation 21:1-2, “And I saw a renewed heaven and a renewed earth, for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away,.."

Prophesied even before this:

Isaiah 66:22, “For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make stand before Me,” declares יהוה, “so your seed and your name shall stand. And it shall be that from New moon to New moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before Me,” declares יהוה.”

Isaiah 65:17, “For look, I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and the former shall not be remembered, nor come to heart.”

what has changed is the Priesthood

Hebrews 7:13, “For He of whom this is said belongs to another tribe, from which no one had attended at the Altar. For it is perfectly clear that our Master arose from Yehuḏah, a tribe about which Mosheh never spoke of concerning priesthood.”

Hebrews 7:11-12, “Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed (#G3346), there is made of necessity a change (#G3331) also of the law.”

Also spoken of before here and other places in the Word.

Psalm 110:4, “יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.”

Enjoying your bondage?