Is Trump heading for jail?

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seekingthemindofChrist

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Oh, please.

I am definitely not your typical Trump supporter, although I did vote for him twice, and I would vote for him again, but this is just nonsense, and I only watched the first 1:33 of the video.

Why nonsense?

Because it is totally hypocritical in that there is definitely a witch-hunt out for Trump.

Here is what I truly believe:

The establishment so fears Trump, and his supporters, that they will attempt anything to keep him from becoming President again. If they did not fear his supporters so much, then I honestly believe that Trump would have been assassinated a long time ago. However, if someone were to kill him, then there is a distinct possibility that some people in this nation would finally say "Enough is enough!", and there might truly be some sort of armed uprising.

To put Trump in prison, with the likes of the Clintons, Obama, and Biden still roaming around freely, would rightfully tick a lot of people off.

Having said that, I do not involve myself in politics because the ills which face this nation can only be cured by the acceptance of the gospel of Jesus Christ. With that mindset, I focus on sharing the gospel, and not on politics.
 

HeIsHere

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Having said that, I do not involve myself in politics because the ills which face this nation can only be cured by the acceptance of the gospel of Jesus Christ. With that mindset, I focus on sharing the gospel, and not on politics.
Christians not being involved in politics is the reason this society is in such a mess. The Gospel is about being salt and light, discipleship not only about life after death.

There was a time when Christians permeated the political landscape in Western society and were able to be that preserving power.
It did not take long for the vaccum to be filled with secular humanists.
Christians have been lied to and they do not even know it.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Christians not being involved in politics is the reason this society is in such a mess. The Gospel is about being salt and light, discipleship not only about life after death.

There was a time when Christians permeated the political landscape in Western society and were able to be that preserving power.
It did not take long for the vaccum to be filled with secular humanists.
Christians have been lied to and they do not even know it.
Actually, sin is the reason why society is in such a mess. You could have the most godly politicians in office, but that alone will not save anybody. Only the gospel of Jesus Christ can save souls.

If you want to spend your time involved in politics, then have at it. Nobody is stopping you.
 

HeIsHere

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Actually, sin is the reason why society is in such a mess. You could have the most godly politicians in office, but that alone will not save anybody. Only the gospel of Jesus Christ can save souls.

If you want to spend your time involved in politics, then have at it. Nobody is stopping you.
I made a distinction between the temporal and the eternal and our role in the here and now along with preaching the Gospel.
Having people come to Christ is only a part, teaching them to sit and wait for the rapture while the world goes to hell in a hand basket was never God's plan.

Anyway, you really did not respond to my post.
 

ResidentAlien

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Oh, please.

I am definitely not your typical Trump supporter, although I did vote for him twice, and I would vote for him again, but this is just nonsense, and I only watched the first 1:33 of the video.

Why nonsense?

Because it is totally hypocritical in that there is definitely a witch-hunt out for Trump.

Here is what I truly believe:

The establishment so fears Trump, and his supporters, that they will attempt anything to keep him from becoming President again. If they did not fear his supporters so much, then I honestly believe that Trump would have been assassinated a long time ago. However, if someone were to kill him, then there is a distinct possibility that some people in this nation would finally say "Enough is enough!", and there might truly be some sort of armed uprising.

To put Trump in prison, with the likes of the Clintons, Obama, and Biden still roaming around freely, would rightfully tick a lot of people off.

Having said that, I do not involve myself in politics because the ills which face this nation can only be cured by the acceptance of the gospel of Jesus Christ. With that mindset, I focus on sharing the gospel, and not on politics.
Do you even know what the video or this topic is about? It doesn't sound like it.
 

Grace911

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Christians not being involved in politics is the reason this society is in such a mess. The Gospel is about being salt and light, discipleship not only about life after death.

There was a time when Christians permeated the political landscape in Western society and were able to be that preserving power.
It did not take long for the vaccum to be filled with secular humanists.
Christians have been lied to and they do not even know it.
I disagree that Christians need to be involved in politics to alleviate the society mess. We are being controlled by non-elected powers. The World Health Organization is an arm of the United Nations. There was no election of the people for these entities. Yet, the WHO shutdown the whole world on March 11, 2020.
 

Cameron143

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I disagree that Christians need to be involved in politics to alleviate the society mess. We are being controlled by non-elected powers. The World Health Organization is an arm of the United Nations. There was no election of the people for these entities. Yet, the WHO shutdown the whole world on March 11, 2020.
They were selected by non Christians. Perhaps if Christians were making the selections the outcome would have been different.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Do you even know what the video or this topic is about? It doesn't sound like it.
Yea, it's about Trump retaliating. I think it's nonsense because he is only retaliating against those who are retaliating against him. That was my intended point, but I might not have stated it clearly.
 

ResidentAlien

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Yea, it's about Trump retaliating. I think it's nonsense because he is only retaliating against those who are retaliating against him. That was my intended point, but I might not have stated it clearly.
The point is did he violate the terms of his release. Whether or not anyone thinks he was justified, should he have to face the consequences of his actions? If not, why not? Because people think he's being railroaded? So he's free to break the law any way he wants with impunity? What if the shoe were on the other foot; what if it was Biden or some other Democrat?
 

HeIsHere

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I disagree that Christians need to be involved in politics to alleviate the society mess. We are being controlled by non-elected powers. The World Health Organization is an arm of the United Nations. There was no election of the people for these entities. Yet, the WHO shutdown the whole world on March 11, 2020.

Post #8

This ^^^^^

Christians gave up their role in society when they started paying attention to John Nelson Darby ... going back over a hundred years.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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The point is did he violate the terms of his release. Whether or not anyone thinks he was justified, should he have to face the consequences of his actions? If not, why not? Because people think he's being railroaded? So he's free to break the law any way he wants with impunity? What if the shoe were on the other foot; what if it was Biden or some other Democrat?
I hear what you are saying. Like I said, for me, it is hypocritical because I believe that his prosecutors are corrupt themselves. Does that excuse his actions? No, but, in my estimation, his accusers are guilty of far greater offenses than he is.

Anyhow, like I said, and I think that you pretty much said the same thing on one of these threads, no politician can save this nation or the people in it. Only the true Savior, Jesus Christ, can do that, and I put my focus on spreading the gospel message whenever and wherever I can.

Cue the zealots!
 

PennEd

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Why doesn't it disturb you that the person and party in power, is using the full force of various government agencies he controls and loaded with cronies to vanquish his chief political threat?

THAT< is by FAAAAAAR the worst possible scenario to our freedom and republic.

ESPECIALLY, in light of the VAST criminal activity of the current administration.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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The point is did he violate the terms of his release. Whether or not anyone thinks he was justified, should he have to face the consequences of his actions? If not, why not? Because people think he's being railroaded? So he's free to break the law any way he wants with impunity? What if the shoe were on the other foot; what if it was Biden or some other Democrat?
I will add this.

As boorish, narcissistic, and egomaniacal as Trump may be, he is no dummy.

In other words, I believe that he is implementing a biblical principle by his actions, whether he is consciously aware of it or not, and I also believe that it is working.

I am referring to this biblical principle:

Mark 11:32

"But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed."

Mark 12:12

"And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way."

Luke 22:2

"And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people."

Acts 5:26

"Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned."

Never in my life have I seen a President with the type of backing from the populace that Trump has, and I believe that he is fully aware of the same, and that he acts defiantly and boldly at times because he knows that his accusers fear his support base. As I said in an earlier response, I honestly believe that Trump would have been assassinated a long time ago if the powers-that-be did not fear backlash from his supporters.

That is my take on things, and I think that it is accurate.
 

ZNP

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The point is did he violate the terms of his release. Whether or not anyone thinks he was justified, should he have to face the consequences of his actions? If not, why not? Because people think he's being railroaded? So he's free to break the law any way he wants with impunity? What if the shoe were on the other foot; what if it was Biden or some other Democrat?
Trump said "If you come after me I'm coming after you". That could be constitutional, but suppose it wasn't. Suppose for example Trump weaponized the DOJ to persecute his political rivals. I would definitely be against that, hence I am against Biden for weaponizing the DOJ. An article came out today and was reported on Steve Bannon's Warroom Pandemic, I think it was in the first hour today, that proves Biden was the one who got the DOJ to go after Trump in this last indictment. So I am totally against that.

They want the trial to take place in Washington DC where the jury pool will be selected from a city that voted 95% against Trump and has everything to lose if he is elected. I'm against that as well.

He evaluated the track record of the judge and the prosecutor showing how frequently they get overturned, and how they get overturned by unanimous decisions. So it is clear that the case will get overturned having no legal merit, however, it will take three years to wind itself through to the Supreme court, therefore the goal is to influence this election by convicting Trump of make believe felonies. That is election interference. I am against that.

So we don't need hypotheticals here, the shoe is on the other foot, it is on Biden, and I am totally against it.
 

Moses_Young

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Trump is heading to gaol in my opinion - probably only briefly. Whatever he does to the other guys, he's gotta do it to himself first, else the Communists would feel justified when they shriek foul play. He is setting the precedent. Then he will go after the traitors. He didn't author The Art of the Comeback for nothing.
 

shittim

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I don't have an opinion, I do see many moves and changes in world situations to indicate justice will be done against the deep state.
Redacted recently had a video on the core of the deep state infection in our government, can't find it right now, but saw it a day or so ago.
A recent prophetic word from a trusted saint indicated the U.S.A. will no longer be a major focus in world events.
blessings
 

Moses_Young

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I don't have an opinion, I do see many moves and changes in world situations to indicate justice will be done against the deep state.
Redacted recently had a video on the core of the deep state infection in our government, can't find it right now, but saw it a day or so ago.
A recent prophetic word from a trusted saint indicated the U.S.A. will no longer be a major focus in world events.
blessings
Apparently, Biden has been extending Trump's Executive Orders which are damning to Biden and Hunter. Hardly the actions of a real president in control. Then there's the rumours Biden has been denied access to the Pentagon, doesn't travel in the real Airforce One, and makes videos from a Hollywood manufactured Whitehouse. More and more not adding up about the Deepstate narrative.
 

shittim

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"A time of two presidents" is how Kim Clement described a time in one of his prophecies.
(Maybe Milley isn't a dork?) :unsure::)