Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Anybody with a functioning nervous system knew that if Brandon were to accede to power, the entire government would descend into a vast corrupt enterprise. Which it most certainly has. America is in its most corrupt and vulnerable state in 200 years IMO.

Also......they are spending like drunken sailors, more than ever before and on purpose. The USA is BK. Bad times are coming.....and are already here. Look at NYC, LA San fran, Chicago. All major cities are a dumpster fire.

I've lived state side about 20yrs. and I'm shocked at the changes I've seen in that amount of time. I'm getting to the point that even in small town USA I don't feel safe anymore. I was in the grocery one day and I passed a little too close to a woman who was taking up the aisle and refusing to move. She pretty well screamed at me at how rude I was when she was the one holding everyone up. I just kept walking. When I got out to parking lot she spotted me and was giving me a dirty look and she almost drove her cart into an oncoming car. smh People are just on edge and ready to fight over nothing. If I was the type, I could have had a smack down right there at the grocery, people are just insane any more. I hate the changes I see and it's so sad to see what this country has become under ol' Joe. smh
 

cv5

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I've lived state side about 20yrs. and I'm shocked at the changes I've seen in that amount of time. I'm getting to the point that even in small town USA I don't feel safe anymore. I was in the grocery one day and I passed a little too close to a woman who was taking up the aisle and refusing to move. She pretty well screamed at me at how rude I was when she was the one holding everyone up. I just kept walking. When I got out to parking lot she spotted me and was giving me a dirty look and she almost drove her cart into an oncoming car. smh People are just on edge and ready to fight over nothing. If I was the type, I could have had a smack down right there at the grocery, people are just insane any more. I hate the changes I see and it's so sad to see what this country has become under ol' Joe. smh
Grandpa Disaster is NOT running the show. He is an extra.

 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Grandpa Disaster is NOT running the show. He is an extra.


I recall seeing that and thinking this is an inside joke Joe isn't in on. VP pulling on Obama's sleeve for his attention. If no one told you, you would not have guessed Biden was the most important person in the room. Or that he was IN the room. He was an easy pawn, that's why they shifted so quickly from Bernie to Joe. You could tell right away when the Dems had chosen their pawn, it was hands off, no more hits to the old man.
 

posthuman

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It's kind of like having a heathen king being used to deliver God's people out of Babylon.
our Babylon is spiritual, and that man is certainly not giving us spiritual redemption or salvation.
 

Cameron143

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our Babylon is spiritual, and that man is certainly not giving us spiritual redemption or salvation.
We already have Christ for that. We don't need another Savior. We need someone with the courage and determination to stand against the wickedness that has pervaded our government. I could care less if God chooses to use Trump or a dog named Fido.

Trump can't save anyone. But God got many things headed in the right direction during his first presidency. And while I don't care for many things about Trump, he does possess many excellent qualities that God can use for the good of this nation.

One last thing concerning Trump...he has endured attacks that no other US politician has ever seen. And if Trump does end up going down, the rest of us aren't far behind. This is a moment in history where the US will survive and prosper or come to naught.

Jesus words were never more true as now...the children of darkness are wiser in their generation than the children of light.
 

ZNP

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We already have Christ for that. We don't need another Savior. We need someone with the courage and determination to stand against the wickedness that has pervaded our government. I could care less if God chooses to use Trump or a dog named Fido.

Trump can't save anyone. But God got many things headed in the right direction during his first presidency. And while I don't care for many things about Trump, he does possess many excellent qualities that God can use for the good of this nation.

One last thing concerning Trump...he has endured attacks that no other US politician has ever seen. And if Trump does end up going down, the rest of us aren't far behind. This is a moment in history where the US will survive and prosper or come to naught.

Jesus words were never more true as now...the children of darkness are wiser in their generation than the children of light.
It sounds like a comedy skit where all the job applicants are compared to Jesus, they fall short, and so the ultra religious Human resource manager doesn't hire anyone.

"I don't know he says he really wants the job but unless he is willing to be scourged and crucified how can we really know?"
 
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When It comes to Donald Trump,I think him wanting to make America Great again vs whether or not he really cares about America and not just wanting to be King CAN be exclusive.

If they find him guilty of trying to steal the election,I think that will prove that he WAS being exclusive and not really thinking about making America Great again.
Which election? 2016? I mean honestly

 

cv5

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All we need to hear from you is that you agree that Brandon is an election stealer, influence peddler, crook, fraud, grifter, mentally and physically senile, and liar. This assessment predicated upon overwhelming evidence.

Once we get that admission, then we will know that your intentions are pure.
 
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Niki7

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our Babylon is spiritual, and that man is certainly not giving us spiritual redemption or salvation.
Oh what a flip flop LOL!

Now it's 'spiritual'. Papa Biden represents who exactly? The communist intrusion into American politics? Do you agree with abortion and sexual confusion land little kids having it shoved down their throats? Or rioting in the streets? Democrates have gone postal over Jan 6 which was not what they say it was while they ignored the murders, rapes and destruction of the 'summer of love'

The hypocrisy of the Democrats is absolutely beyond the ability to either fully grasp or define it. Never seen before in fact.

Where's a Reagan when you need him

Reagan Doctrine, 1985

The “Reagan Doctrine” was used to characterize the Reagan administration’s (1981-1988) policy of supporting anti-Communist insurgents wherever they might be. In his 1985 State of the Union address, President Ronald Reagan called upon Congress and the American people to stand up to the Soviet Union, what he had previously called the “Evil Empire”:
"We must stand by all our democratic allies. And we must not break faith with those who are risking their lives—on every continent, from Afghanistan to Nicaragua—to defy Soviet-supported aggression and secure rights which have been ours from birth."
Breaking with the doctrine of “Containment," established during the Truman administration—President Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy was based on John Foster Dulles’ “Roll-Back” strategy from the 1950s in which the United States would actively push back the influence of the Soviet Union. Reagan’s policy differed, however, in the sense that he relied primarily on the overt support of those fighting Soviet dominance. This strategy was perhaps best encapsulated in NSC National Security Decision Directive 75. This 1983 directive stated that a central priority of the U.S. in its policy toward the Soviet Union would be “to contain and over time reverse Soviet expansionism,” particularly in the developing world. As the directive noted:
"The U.S. must rebuild the credibility of its commitment to resist Soviet encroachment on U.S. interests and those of its Allies and friends, and to support effectively those Third World states that are willing to resist Soviet pressures or oppose Soviet initiatives hostile to the United States, or are special targets of Soviet policy."
To that end, the Reagan administration focused much of its energy on supporting proxy armies to curtail Soviet influence. Among the more prominent examples of the Reagan Doctrine’s application, in Nicaragua, the United States sponsored the contra movement in an effort to force the leftist Sandinista government from power. And in Afghanistan, the United States provided material support to Afghan rebels—known as the mujahadeen—helping them end Soviet occupation of their country.

Just replace Soviet Union with China
 
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Niki7

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All we need to hear from you is that you agree that Brandon is an election stealer, influence peddler, crook, fraud, grifter, mentally and physically senile, and liar. This assessment predicated upon overwhelming evidence.

Once we get that admission, then we will know that your intentions are pure.
You know if it was an actual better Presidency or man these Democrats were after, there are other candidates. So why does the press try to bury them? A blind person can see the fix is in...wait till Katastrophe Kamala gets a turn...the greatest border czar of all time! The illegals just love her


 

JTB

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Well of course. However, it is not Trump that put this country in decline.

Your response is really just a non-sequitur
No, it was not just trump. But he is the subject of this thread.

But you're right, the Clintons, the Obummers, the Bushes, Pelosi, McConnel, the whole kit n caboodle of them have been marching us down the road to destruction.

But then again, God told us thousands of years ago it would get this way. That's not something that happens on just one man's watch.

But be not deceived, trump is yet another stepping stone on that path.
 

JTB

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All we need to hear from you is that you agree that Brandon is an election stealer, influence peddler, crook, fraud, grifter, mentally and physically senile, and liar. This assessment predicated upon overwhelming evidence.

Once we get that admission, then we will know that your intentions are pure.
Will you now..?

As I said above, they are all crooks, frauds, etc.

The only difference is, only one of them claims to be God's mouthpiece.

And my intention is to show that because of that claim, he is the most dangerous.
 
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You showed me a list of charges. One was defrauding the government. We all have ideas about what that means, but legally what does it mean?
You're asking me a question that I gave you the source to that explained those laws that were allegedly broken by Donald Trump so all I can tell you Is that I can read It too you but I can't understand It for you.
 

posthuman

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Oh what a flip flop LOL!

Now it's 'spiritual'
flip?

It has always been spiritual, and that's why Christianianity should never be mixed with secular politics. look at history, this is how we got popes in the west and how emperors appointed bishops and decided doctrine in the east.


The very fact that you immediately put me in some 'D party' box in your brain when I point out that your pop idol is a liar, is evidence that you don't even think of these things in terms of Christianity at all, but in terms of purely worldly politics.

you've completely lost the gospel and become instead a 'republican'

That's the problem.