Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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So you're hurt that Trump isn't your knight in shining armor, just like the day you found out that there wasn't a Santa Claus?


Trump has done more for this country than Obama, Biden and the Clintons put together. He's miles ahead of anyone else and it's likely he's going to be the candidate. I have a feeling more people identify with Trump more now than they ever did. People are going to have show out big because the Dems are already planning how to roll the country again. I just watch the end of the movie "Man of the Year", one of my favorite actors Jeff Goldblum, did an excellent job. The actress comes to him and tells him something isn't right on election night, that the machines aren't working properly and the wrong man is going to win. His response was something like " Americans elected a president, it doesn't matter if it was fraudulent or not, the democratic process worked, the people elected someone." Totally how Dems feel, but they didn't on the night Hillary lost. And Liz Warren and the VP herself said the machines could cause issues with the election. Hill still won't admit she lost the election, even with all the cheating she did. I guess the Dems didn't like her enough to push her through. But Biden, they knew they had a winner in an old man that would do and say whatever they told him. They don't have COVID this time, wonder what disaster they'll cook up this time to keep the Biden crime family out of jail and in power.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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There are dozens of reasons not to support Trump.
One that should have permanently discredited him, was making fun of a reporter in 2016 of with a muscular disease when he ran for office the first time.
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Yeah and that baloney was debunked a long time ago or they'd still be using it. He'd done that movement for a dozen other people that had no disability, he wasn't making fun of the disability. Dems had to shut up over that one. Don't open this can of worms or we'll have to start quoting Biden and you don't wanna go there.
 

HeIsHere

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There are dozens of reasons not to support Trump.
One that should have permanently discredited him, was making fun of a reporter in 2016 of with a muscular disease when he ran for office the first time.
Anyone who has witnessed a friend or family member suffer from an illness like multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's disease, knows how despicable that kind of behaviour is.
Is that a policy decision he made while in office?

You want to hold up a person's character, so non nonsensical, no one and I mean no one would be worthy of the postion who has been in office.
 

HeIsHere

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Yeah and that baloney was debunked a long time ago or they'd still be using it. He'd done that movement for a dozen other people that had no disability, he wasn't making fun of the disability. Dems had to shut up over that one. Don't open this can of worms or we'll have to start quoting Biden and you don't wanna go there.
@true_believer never wants to address what he accomplished while in office, the dislike of Trump is purely an emotional position.
 

shittim

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reasonable decisions are made using reason, emotional decisions are made using emotions, and THAT is NOT reason.:unsure::)
 

JTB

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No. It's hyperbole because it's absurd. No one would vote for him if that really happened. You have a personal dislike of Trump that renders you unable to judge him without bias.
I do not have a personal dislike of trump (and if I do that is not the issue)

I DO have a personal dislike for what he is doing in deceiving believers and drawing them away from God's Truth and Ways. THAT is my motivation here.
 

JTB

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I have no allegiance to Trump. So I have no idea what you are talking about.

Unlike some people I try to be fair minded about leaders and go by their record not their personal lives.
Their personal lives ARE a part of their record. A HUGE part
 

PennEd

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I follow the scripture, so I am not looking for signs of the end times, Jesus already made clear it to His audience, so why would I not believe Him? i have more if you would like.

Matthew 24:34
Assuredly, I say to you,
this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen generation a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.

Matthew 16:27-28
For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. “Assuredly, I say to you,
there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom

Matthew 10:23
When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.


Hebrews 10:37
For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and
will not delay.

Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in
these last day spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;



1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened to
them as examples, and they were written for
our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Hebrews 9:26
He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the
end of the ages He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

1 John 2:18
Little children,
it is the last hour and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

1 Corinthians 7:29-31
But this I say, brethren,
the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, and those who use this world as not misusing it.
For the form of this world is passing away.

Luke 21:20-22
“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that
all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Yes. And MANY other prophecies that tell us His return is near.

I hope you are not some form of amillennialist. My Pastor is one. He is awesome when it comes to grace, and how to apply it to your life. And he actually exemplifies it. That's why I attend there.
But he, like most denoms, are so incredibly confused on end times prophecy, they cannot see how close we are. And cannot understand what is going on as the beast system is almost totally complete.

i still believe the Holy Spirit will prevent them from getting the MOTB, but they have a huge shock in store.

I mean it's literally right on our doorstep.
 

HeIsHere

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Yes. And MANY other prophecies that tell us His return is near.

I hope you are not some form of amillennialist. My Pastor is one. He is awesome when it comes to grace, and how to apply it to your life. And he actually exemplifies it. That's why I attend there.
But he, like most denoms, are so incredibly confused on end times prophecy, they cannot see how close we are. And cannot understand what is going on as the beast system is almost totally complete.

i still believe the Holy Spirit will prevent them from getting the MOTB, but they have a huge shock in store.

I mean it's literally right on our doorstep.

Well I will go with Jesus and His words..... "this generation, quickly, soon...."

What we see now is a counterfeit. Yup Satan and his minions know the scripture too.
 
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What about US Grant? Good president or bad?
I don't know much about him but I will say this that I can make a righteous judgement according to the flesh/outward appearances what I see physically but only GOD can see a person's heart/motives/Intentions.
 

ZNP

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I don't know much about him but I will say this that I can make a righteous judgement according to the flesh/outward appearances what I see physically but only GOD can see a person's heart/motives/Intentions.
I mention him because people complained about his drinking. He was a great general that many underestimate, not a great president, but not terrible either
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I mention him because people complained about his drinking. He was a great general that many underestimate, not a great president, but not terrible either

Churchill !! They wouldn't have won the war without him.
 

shittim

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His plan to redeem his creation is going forward and will not be stopped until He is pleased, and this is as it should be. Were Grant not the person He could use to be where he was and do what was needed to be done, He would have raised up another.
Same with you and me if we don't seek His guidance and plan for our lives and walk it out.
Blessings
 

notmyown

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What about US Grant? Good president or bad?
oh, seriously. one of my uncles married a lady named Irene Grant, grand-niece of US Grant. the family has... stories.