What does that simple question reveal?

Yes the systematic range of meanings or words in Hebrew and Greek and the text in which thy are used can and do have more than one meaning.

That is the truth.

when we see "in the name of, " in scripture mainly in Greek is it an English translation term used to describe = The authority by which one has:

1. been sent
2. who do they represent that has authority
3. the power to carry it out.


This is also seen in Hebrew.

the word Baptized, baptism is only in the New Testament

in the Hebrew, we see wash, bathe, and purify and sanctify

kāḇas
to wash (by treading), be washed, perform the work of a fuller

1. (Qal) washer, fuller, treader (participle)
2. (Piel) to wash (garments, person)
3. (Pual) to be washed

Matthew 10:16

Behold I send you"

Send you means ap-os-tel'-lo in Greek, which is "either persons sent with commissions, or things intended for someone."

The word Commission means Power or authority given to one. The rank and authority so conferred. An authorization or command to act in a prescribed manner or to perform prescribed acts: CHARGE

That is one word Send

Now, when Jesus sent His Disciples as the Risen Lord, does that mean every time we see the word Sent/SEND, it is in context to "APOSTELO' IN THE BIBLE?

NO


BECAUSE THE WORD "APOSTELO" MEANS SENT OUT ONES WITH AUTHORITY.


Yet the same word " Send" in Hebrew means šālaḥ: to send, send away, let go, stretch out

We must use the best word that is complementary to the context within the sentence, verse, paraph, chapter, book, and whole Bible.

That will help us ensure we receive the authorial intent, which is to ask.

1. who was it written to?
2. what time was it written in?
3. How did they apply it then
4. how do we apply it today?


Baptism in the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with water baptism.

The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are given to only the church. The unsaved do not have them.

Salvation can happen before, during, and after water Baptism.

The Baptism in the Holy Spirit know as receiving power to be a witness, as Jesus said in Acts 1:8
can happen before, during, and after water baptism.


The Holy Spirit comes into every person who is saved. When they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as the Holy Spirit enables them to do so.

The empowering of the Holy Spirit can happen at the time of salvation, or after and can happen before water baptism, during or after AS the Holy Spirit wills and chooses, and as we see done in the word of God.

Man, Denominations, pastors, etc., do not control the Holy Spirit.

Read the scriptural references at the end of my note to you. And you receive the Holy Ghost per Acts 2:38. The gift of the Holy Ghost not gifts of or from the Holy Ghost. It's singular not plural. I don't care what you believe. Follow the language of the scriptures to where it leads which us what I do. See below repost which presents the scriptures noted regarding laying on of the apostle's hands which resulted in the manifestation of the Spirit.

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Stephen was already a baptized believer, so according to Acts 2:38, he had already received the gift not gifts, which are the miraculous manifestation of the Spirit. It wasn't until they (the apostles) laid their hands on him, verse 6, that he was able to do the wonders as noted in verse 8

"5And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: 6Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.

7And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

8And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people."

Also to corroborate the fact that it was the laying on of the apostle's hands that enabled the gifts (manifestations of the Spirit, those listed in 1Cor 12:8-10), see the other scriptures I previously listed in my post 31.

Acts 5:12

12And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

Acts 8:14-17

14Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 8:18-19

18And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Acts 19:6

6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

2 Tim 1:6-7

6Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands. 7For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Pretty clear when you look at ALL the pertinent scriptures, the MANIFISTATION of the Spirit, which Spirit was within the baptized believers in biblical times per Acts 2:38, was the result of the laying on of the apostle's hands.
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To quench the Holy Spirit in my experience is to balk/interfere when the Holy Spirit intends to use individuals in the operation of a spiritual gift. I share the following as a witness of this truth.

I received the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues some years before what I'm about to share happened. The extent of speaking in tongues was normally during personal prayer. However, I was caught by surprise when on one occasion I began speaking in tongues during a church service. The experience happened so fast that I really didn't have time to think about what was about to happen. If I had, the idea of speaking in front of the entire church would have caused me to interfere with God's plan. And of course He knew that. I am so glad that it happened because the experience was eye opening on many fronts. Now about quenching. I believe it was the next Sunday when during worship I felt the same overwhelming presence welling up from inside me and knew what was going to happen next. And sadly, I resisted for exactly the reason previously mentioned. Immediately the feeling subsided and a person a couple seats away was used in my place.

People do tend to get bored with pullstring dolls after awhile.

Who interpreted the so called tongue speaking event, what language was it, and what was actually said

I understood what you shared. And I appreciate it. But scripture contradicts that idea.

Consider that if what you say were true, and a person receives the Holy Ghost the moment they believe, there would have been no need for Jesus to instruct, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" (Luke 11:13) Why ask for something you already got the moment you believed?

You say, "Those guys were baptized into believing that Jesus was the Christ." Please explain what baptism into believing involves.

Yes, I did read your comments in their entirety and believe you continue to contradict yourself. As seen as well in your post #129.

According to Peter being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus relates to water baptism. (Acts 10:47-48) As to the Acts 19 account verse 5 is a reference to water baptism, and verse 6 reveals when they received the Holy Ghost as evidenced in their speaking in tongues and prophesying.

In response:
2. I never said hands must be laid upon a person for them to receive the Holy Ghost. Scripture contradicts that idea.
3. Those in the Acts 10 account were water baptized after receiving the Holy Ghost. (Acts 10:47-48) As was the Apostle Paul. (Acts 9:17-18; 22:16)
4. John 14:27 states the Holy Ghost is currently WITH the disciples but will soon be IN them. I believe this reference is to the Holy Ghost being in Jesus; therefore dwelling WITH them. Why? Because Jesus said if He did not depart the Holy Ghost could not come. And Acts 2:33 states that Jesus shed forth the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost. It was then that the Holy Ghost came to dwell IN each of those in the upper room.

John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Why did the Holy Ghost fall on those in Caesarea prior to baptism and the laying on of the apostle's hands? Was this the norm, or a highly unique event and not the norm? The same holds true for acts 2 when the Holy Ghost fell on the apostles. A bit different in terms of persons but not different in terms of the reason it fell unilaterally without the laying on of hands as was the case and requirement in all other instances except the aforementioned acts 10. These 2 instances were not the norm. Itsvery clear that all miraculous manifestations of the Holy Ghost required the laying on of the apostle's hands as noted below, so once again you have to ask yourself why not in Acts 2 and 10? There was a very special reason that you and others need to figure out so you may understand the truth of the gifts and how or if they relate to us today.

To corroborate the fact that it was the laying on of the apostle's hands that enabled the gifts (manifestations of the Spirit, those listed in 1Cor 12:8-10) see below.

Acts 5:12

12And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

Acts 8:14-17

14Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 8:18-19

18And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Acts 19:6

6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

2 Tim 1:6-7

6Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands. 7For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Pretty clear when you look at ALL the pertinent scriptures, the MANIFISTATION of the Spirit, which Spirit was within the baptized believers in biblical times per Acts 2:38, was the result of the laying on of the apostle's hands.

Because there are many operations of the Spirit. What Jesus is referring to here is gifts of the Spirit.
Notice the previous verses are about things people need. Physical needs are described. And even earthly fathers, who are sinful, meet our physical needs. Now what we should come to understand is that we have a perfect heavenly Father. How much more will He provide for our spiritual needs.
Thus, as we find ourselves in life needing strength to overcome sin or understanding to minister, we should pray with the expectation that our Father will provide for our needs.
You said earlier that people won't accept what the Bible teaches. The Bible is a book unlike any other. And while the plain reading of it generally carries its meaning, careful study is also required. But even this is not enough. It also requires its author to come and illuminate our understanding.
People fall into error many times because they come to a false understanding in one area, which then colors their understanding of what they learn next. And because their previous understanding was wrong, their subsequent understanding is as well.
I say this not because I want to belittle you in any way. But the understanding of the verse you gave to refute my argument was flawed. It wasn't about the giving of the Spirit by the Father in salvation. From its context, it is clearly talking about the operation of the Spirit to meet our spiritual needs in life.
I do hope you will take some time in prayer and ask God to do the same for you. I wish you the richest of blessings.

John the Baptist, and others Baptized many PRIOR to Jesus’s death and resurrection.

They may have believed Jesus was in fact the Messiah, but they COULDN’T have known that they needed to acknowledge that Jesus had died for their sins and resurrected again to life, BECAUSE it hadn’t happened yet!

You cannot be born again without the Holy Spirit living inside you. The Holy Spirit wasn’t given UNTIL Jesus ascended.

So how can those guys, that may not have even known that Jesus died and was resurrected, receive the Holy Spirit?

And we are not “baptized into believing”. We are believing, (in Christ’s sacrificial atonement for sin, and subsequent resurrection) and THEN baptized.

The Ephesians were re-baptized for this very reason. They were not Baptized into Christ, his death, etc and not added to the body of Christ which is his church, nor did they receive the gift of the Holy Ghost per Acts 2:38, hence the need to be re-baptized.

NO, I am not and you did not understand what I said which I explained in depth.

The Baptism of Jesus IS in the Holy Spirit as said in John 1:33 which I gave many times. I also explained the systematic range of meaning with words that are in English but have more than one meaning in Greek and Hebrew.

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"Who is being asked this question? What is the setting?"

Here in a forum where you have many different doctrines of which some know they could be wrong yet willing to listen others know for fact what they believe is the truth and they will not move. As one preacher said the other day he was invited to this Church and he was just starting out so he was so happy but was told NONE of that Holy Ghost tongue talking.. you get it. And he did the wise thing and didn't go. No matter where you stand doubt always stops the sweet sweet holy Spirit.

So a simple easy question you can understand why its now 8 pages in. My answer would be YES AMEN PRAISE GOD GLORY TO JESUS!

I realize what Rom. 8:9 means.

I do not agree that Cornelius and the others were saved the moment they believed. They did however receive the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. Afterward they obeyed the command to be baptized in water in the name of the Lord Jesus. It was at that point that they acquired their spiritual rebirth. Their experience of both receiving the Holy Ghost and obeying the water baptism command parallels what Peter told the Jews on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 2:37-42)

Baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus is a reference to water baptism. Period.

I never said nor do I believe that receiving the Holy Ghost hinges upon water baptism. Others have expressed that.

Also, nothing you stated changes the fact the in scripture "being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" is a reference to water baptism.