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PennEd

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It's all good. If I didn't passionately believe what I do, why would I argue in favor of it. No worries, I'm sure there are others here who are interested in healthy discussion. You have a wonderful rest of your day.
Nobody gets passion more than me.
Be blessed
 

JohnDB

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All of the various denominations have had their "issues" over the centuries since the Great Reformation when they were founded. You had Martin Luther "discovering" and promoting the Bible....people reading it and through their own personal interpretation creating new denominations.

All of these denominations seemed to not consider the sins of their hatred of other denominations....they licensed the hate (even executions and torture)with claims of being harsher against sin than others. (AKA Holier than thou) These guerrilla warfare tactics caused many to claim to be Deists instead of any particular denominational affiliation. (Flat out refused to hate anyone)

Today's society is a bit different.
Scriptures are clear about a need to stop promoting sin and turning away (repentance) from sin.
And yet we have church organizations which are doing the exact opposite. Especially by promoting leadership publicly engaged in sinful lifestyles condemned by scriptures.

If we had a thief promoting stealing by openly admitting they were a professional thief and yet becoming a pastor at a church while still engaged in their occupation as a thief....would anyone say something? How about a liar? Murderer?

Many leaders once WERE these things but have since repented and became great leaders of the faith. Moses WAS a murderer....but repented.

So now we have confessing/professing perverts....actual unashamed sexual deviants running the churches. Not just adulterers...but people so warped as to engage in homosexuality, transgenderism, and pedophilia....these are now leadership....examples to live our lives by?

Sorry not sorry....that's not a church but a sex deviant support group.
 

shittim

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The "church" or "Ecclesia" is ALWAYS the body of believers, not the RCC, not Luther, not Methodism, not any "ism". there is a small group of true believers in each and He is calling His Own out from them all over the world, right now.:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 

ZNP

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Lots of end times "prophecies" have been found to be false.
Lots of Bible teachers have been found to be false. That doesn't make the Bible false nor does it implicate others.

Each of us has been charged to watch for the Lord's coming. Each of us will be held accountable for that job.

Luke 1:20 And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their appointed time.”

These prophecies have an appointed time to come true.

Luke 5:35 But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; in those days they will fast.”

This was one of those appointed times.

Luke 12:42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?

There is a proper time to teach certain subjects including eschatology, fulfilled prophecies and signs of the time.
 

NightTwister

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Lots of Bible teachers have been found to be false. That doesn't make the Bible false nor does it implicate others.

Each of us has been charged to watch for the Lord's coming. Each of us will be held accountable for that job.

Luke 1:20 And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their appointed time.”

These prophecies have an appointed time to come true.

Luke 5:35 But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; in those days they will fast.”

This was one of those appointed times.

Luke 12:42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time?

There is a proper time to teach certain subjects including eschatology, fulfilled prophecies and signs of the time.
I'm watching. I live to today and plan for tomorrow. Either way, I'm ready.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Maybe you don't know the truth of the matter. Here you go.....right out of the horse's mouth.

There's no doubt about it now.
George Orwell was right once again.
He openly admitted that he takes $600,000,000 tax dollars to control the Canadian media.
It's come out that the US big media is also controlled the same way. They get major tax funding from the powers that shouldn't be.

Thanks for the clip cv5.
You'd think that would be the most incriminating thing he could say, but evil is out of the closet and proudly announcing their most diabolical crimes.
 

cv5

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There's no doubt about it now.
George Orwell was right once again.
He openly admitted that he takes $600,000,000 tax dollars
That was then. Now that figure is well north of $1 billion and counting.

Venequela Norte led by Fidel Castreau.
 

ZNP

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That's serious power to be shaping opinions with that much money.
Cuba and Canada and USA has hair sniffing joe.
It appears that the opinions they have shaped are that the MSM is garbage and people are sifting through the internet to find real news networks.