Religious bigots and your understanding

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If I was Taught the Trinity is Biblical then you were taught it is not.
Where does THE BIBLE teach, say, or describe that God is a Trinity?

I can show you what the Bible DOES teach, say, and describe.

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

One says there is no Trinity and there is only Jesus.
For the record, that's not me. I believe there is God, the Father, the Creator of heaven and earth, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, God's human Messiah, the "second man," the "last Adam."
 

CS1

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Where does THE BIBLE teach, say, or describe that God is a Trinity?

I can show you what the Bible DOES teach, say, and describe.

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done
Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


For the record, that's not me. I believe there is God, the Father, the Creator of heaven and earth, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, God's human Messiah, the "second man," the "last Adam."
where does it say He is not?


No one of the scriptures you have provided when kept in context, says Jesus is not God, the Holy Spirit is not God, and God the Father is not God.

You were shown. You are incapable of apprehending the Triune God of the Bible.

I leave you with 1cor chapter 14: 38
 
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This thread is nothing more than an attack on those who believe that scripture is the objective truth. Using a pejorative in attempt to derail those who have faith in what God has provided objectively in His word.
 

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This thread is nothing more than an attack on those who believe that scripture is the objective truth. Using a pejorative in attempt to derail those who have faith in what God has provided objectively in His word.
Thanks for your contribution.

Objective Truth is that when someone attempts to derail a discussion.

Or should objective truth be a two way discussion.

Truth is based on Something you believe isn't it ?.

Or something youve witnessed.

Should objective truth be about something you feal
 

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Bigot, [definition]
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced
By this definition I am a bigot, and have no problem with that designation.


I obstinately believe Jesus Christ is the ONLY Way to be saved.

I pre judge (prejudiced) other religions to be wrong.


For a Christian To be called a bigot by the world confirms that you are a true Christian!
This is different than being unloving in your assurety of being right that Jesus is the only Way.
 

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hello good morning, religious bigots, are the people do know Jesus yet, they must learn and grow in there relationship with him, we are the body of Christ, we are to love.,,,The FATHER is the Judge, has we walk in the truth, we must pray for our Brothers and sisters that don't know better yet, AND the holy spirit will lead you in all truth, Jesus is the truth the way and the life, stay in the word, and in prayer,
 

PennEd

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Also, "Son of God" is not the same as "God the Son."
For clarity sake, are we to understand that you don't believe Jesus is God?

Again for clarity sake, please answer "Yes He is God" or "No He is not God" before explaining your position.
Thank you
 

Fundaamental

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By this definition I am a bigot, and have no problem with that designation.


I obstinately believe Jesus Christ is the ONLY Way to be saved.

I pre judge (prejudiced) other religions to be wrong.


For a Christian To be called a bigot by the world confirms that you are a true Christian!
This is different than being unloving in your assurety of being right that Jesus is the only Way.
Telling yourself your views are correct because someone views your reasoning as bigotry. is bordering on delusion sorry.
 

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Telling yourself your views are correct because someone views your reasoning as bigotry. is bordering on delusion sorry.
Yeah. That' twisting what I said. The WORLD telling Christians they are bigots, is EXACTLY what you would expect the WORLD to do.

If YOU were put on trial for the accusation of being a Christian "bigot" because you are obstinate that is the Jesus is the ONLY Way to Salvation, would you be found guilty?


If not, you need to check yourself.
 

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sorry I ran out time on writing, i was also writing we all judge ,but us not to be judgementel, we must judge things to make sure evrything lines up with the word, we do judge,,, we must judge correctly.
 

Fundaamental

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Yeah. That' twisting what I said. The WORLD telling Christians they are bigots, is EXACTLY what you would expect the WORLD to do.

If YOU were put on trial for the accusation of being a Christian "bigot" because you are obstinate that is the Jesus is the ONLY Way to Salvation, would you be found guilty?


If not, you need to check yourself.
Twisting is something our enemy does, or a thought that can be planted by the enemy to justify a persons reasoning.


where called to love are enemy

In order to be saved this must happen

John 6:44 (ESV)
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

So its not Just Jesus who saves is it.
 

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sorry I ran out time on writing, i was also writing we all judge ,but us not to be judgementel, we must judge things to make sure evrything lines up with the word, we do judge,,, we must judge correctly.

Who is judging? We discern, and there is disagreement, but why is that called Judging or Bigotry? Is that not just a way to subtly try to silence one that disagrees or controls the narrative?
 

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Who is judging? We discern, and there is disagreement, but why is that called Judging or Bigotry? Is that not just a way to subtly try to silence one that disagrees or controls the narrative?
correct you are diserning 😊 the purpose of the op was to prevent bigotry, not to promote it 😊
 

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a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced
Aren't you glad God wiped out religious bigotry with his word? For example:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1.

Pretty simple since it's plainly written. No room for religious bigotry here.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Thanks for your contribution.
Your welcome

Objective Truth is that when someone attempts to derail a discussion.
No.

should objective truth be a two way discussion.
No. Our perspectives do not define objectivity.

Truth is based on Something you believe isn't it ?.
Not at all. People believe things from reason to the absurd.
something youve witnessed.
Again, perspective does not define objectivity.

Should objective truth be about something you feal
Emotions are unrelyable. People feel things that arent true all the time. Which is demostrable by observing the modernday hot button narratives.

We are not the arbitures of truth. GOD, gave us His word. This is truth.
 

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Aren't you glad God wiped out religious bigotry with his word? For example:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1.

Pretty simple since it's plainly written. No room for religious bigotry here.
You say there's room for bigotry here.

Maybe not for you there isn't but for people not open to discussion on a 3 word sentence there has been.

But that's bases in your understanding,

Which your free to choose and believe how you interpret that scripture.

But Ive seen believing Jesus is God, is a matter of salvation.

Or some would say knowing Jesus is God, means your saved.

Then further go on to suggest if you don't know Jesus is God your not saved.

All tho I find that incredible, because being the son of God is equally important.

And I would bet most people who hold this bigotry view don't even think Jesus is God until there told otherwise.

I bet those people didn't believe they where unsaved when they thought otherwise
 

Fundaamental

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Your welcome


No.


No. Our perspectives do not define objectivity.


Not at all. People believe things from reason to the absurd.

Again, perspective does not define objectivity.


Emotions are unrelyable. People feel things that arent true all the time. Which is demostrable by observing the modernday hot button narratives.

We are not the arbitures of truth. GOD, gave us His word. This is truth.
Faith comes from hearing the word.


So if you have something to contribute other than accusations please do
 
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Bigot, [definition]
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced
there's 8 billion people currently on this planet. if everyone came to me and said God is Fake, Jesus is a wimp, serving God is for faggots, your God hates, whatever......................

my job, is to look at them like a baseball bat to a baseball and smack the stupid right out of em by Rebuking them in the Lord [LORD Rebuke You] and begin Praying in a form of Spiritual Warfare.

all we are Commanded to do is to LOVE the PERSON, not the brain and STUPIDITY they have been given!
 

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there's 8 billion people currently on this planet. if everyone came to me and said God is Fake, Jesus is a wimp, serving God is for faggots, your God hates, whatever......................

my job, is to look at them like a baseball bat to a baseball and smack the stupid right out of em by Rebuking them in the Lord [LORD Rebuke You] and begin Praying in a form of Spiritual Warfare.

all we are Commanded to do is to LOVE the PERSON, not the brain and STUPIDITY they have been given!
That would be another excuse for bigotry, sorry I didn't buy that.