there is a great attack on the Lord Jesus and The Holy Spirit today

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Pilgrimshope

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arthurfleminger said:
You are correct. Many of our churches have left the Gospel of Jesus for belief in political correctness. There is no sin anymore, we are all sinless. It's somebody else's fault for the ills of the world. You're okay and I'm okay. Political correctness to draw in larger congregations, at the expense of the Gospel.
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amen a world friendly version of the gospel that parts from repentance and righteousness being central points .

“Jesus died so we don’t have to repent and obey or do anything he said “ is appealing to those who love the world but those who love the lord are different about his word

“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:23-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

without his word in the gospel we’re still walking in the darkness of the world
 
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How did you define "many Christians" or "they"? We think what God is some how through us saying all this? There is a truth here yet when again we talk about "many" of which so much speculation is being tossed in. How many are there in our home town? I have no clue what some, many, most of the Churches (Preachers) are preacher or how much they pray on and on. Since I don't know saying the negative first as a believer would be wrong. Watched a few videos have we or read a bunch of posts? Are we judging them based on what we heard some of them say in some moment of time? There are preacher out there I know yet I have no clue who is typing here. Just being on some "Christian" forum talking about "Jesus" qualifies for you.. well as just what? What authority do you have to speak to a preacher GOD called without talking to them first? Ok your not addressing it like but in general. Still having no authority over them and them and any believer do not have to answer to anyone here.

You going to listen to me tell you what Churches or believers really need to do? Sorry just who am I again? Yeah.. in all this that 'finger" Of God in all this ..do you see it? Don't you wonder why its only pointing at you? See more are not "falling away". Well what if hearing from preachers telling how they are seeing a growth with the young people like never before or how Iran or just China seeing also a huge growth in believers in the underground Church. This "Fallen away" will be taking to really mean "fallen away" yet can also be depart meaning caught up. That personal belief is right not the fact that its one of many in the word of God we truly can not say for fact only means? Like talking to that friend lived next door Mormon. As we were talking goes back and brings out all these books.. many. I asked do are all those written just by mormons? Yes he said. Do you see?

So will the Son of man find faith. Ok wheres yours? Well faith is calling those things that be not as though they were. Its going beyond what you see and hear and feel. Just talking about what we see hear .. ok but thats not faith. Could not "some, many" be crying out to the lord to change, repent get right with God.. on and on? Your only looking through the eyes of flesh not faith not the spirit. You can speak words of life ..you can just like your Father call those things that be not as though they were.. Its Him in you.. its according to the word.
 
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Pilgrimshope said:
amen a world friendly version of the gospel that parts from repentance and righteousness being central points .

“Jesus died so we don’t have to repent and obey or do anything he said “ is appealing to those who love the world but those who love the lord are different about his word

“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:23-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

without his word in the gospel we’re still walking in the darkness of the world
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Jphn the Baptist said that Christ was coming to show us the kingdom of heaven. In the gospels and Acts there are 128 times we are told about the kingdom of heaven and how to be citizens of this kingdom. We can;t be loyal to the kingdoms of the world as our first loyalty and at the same time loyal to the kingdom of heaven, we can't have two masters.

The kingdom of the world is absorbed with cars, jewels, clothes, entertainment, and wonderful houses. Just look at the parking lot of a church and you will see where the church member's loyalty is. The Lord asks them to buy food for the homeless, they buy cars.
 
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Here are the 10 states that are the least religious:
  1. New Hampshire (33.00%)
  2. Massachusetts (33.00%)
  3. Vermont (34.00%)
  4. Maine (34.00%)
  5. Connecticut (43.00%)
  6. Wisconsin (45.00%)
  7. Washington (45.00%)
  8. Alaska (45.00%)
  9. New York (46.00%)
  10. Hawaii (47.00%
I live in number three in the capital. The churches here fly rainbow flags and BLM signs. They are more political than they are true to the Word of God. They all want to please people rather than God. One church allows A Course In Miracles (ACIM) to be taught Which is a spiritual self-study program designed to awaken us to the truth of our oneness with God and Love. The Foundation for Inner Peace (FIP).
The book was written by a psychology professor who claims Jesus spoke to her and gave her the words to be written. They talk of love but mainly social justice. Grown men with beards walk down the street with dresses on. I feel like Lot.

The reason I am bring this to your attention is to show you how bad the churches are falling away.
Thank you for your ears.

Gods Blessings
 
Pilgrimshope

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Blik said:
Jphn the Baptist said that Christ was coming to show us the kingdom of heaven. In the gospels and Acts there are 128 times we are told about the kingdom of heaven and how to be citizens of this kingdom. We can;t be loyal to the kingdoms of the world as our first loyalty and at the same time loyal to the kingdom of heaven, we can't have two masters.

The kingdom of the world is absorbed with cars, jewels, clothes, entertainment, and wonderful houses. Just look at the parking lot of a church and you will see where the church member's loyalty is. The Lord asks them to buy food for the homeless, they buy cars.
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yes I agree with all of this well said

“John the Baptist said that Christ was coming to show us the kingdom of heaven. In the gospels and Acts there are 128 times we are told about the kingdom of heaven and how to be citizens of this kingdom. We can;t be loyal to the kingdoms of the world as our first loyalty and at the same time loyal to the kingdom of heaven, we can't have two masters. “

we live in this world and we must and are required to make our way through. So in that way we have to live in the world but we are called to
Live in the kingdom Jesus promised us his ways of Life now , we are giving up the worldly living and freedom to live that way , and taking on the light yoke of the gospel and his teachings that lead us in truth, and promise everlasting life

The New Testament assumes the person a new man or woman born without sin by the atonement of Jesus Christ. And has forebearance and grace to help
And change those things we aren’t able to

when he died for our sins ,through baptism , another exchange happened his sinless appearance and approval even his name being called a son before God , is placed upon the believer in his death ( for thier sins ) and resurrection (for thier new and eternal Life in his kingdom even after they pass from the flesh)

( that’s what baptism for remission of sins is all about )

and yet another exchange comes somewhere along the way when God flips the accountability switch and we start seeing and hearing his judgements because it’s our kingdom and the laws of that spiritual kingdom were meant to do this with

“Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:21-25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus said this also James is preaching the new law of freedom in Christ we have as his disciples being baptized by an act of faith into his atonement for our sins. And given a gift of eternal life by his resurrection. Now what would we do with our beliefs ?
 
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Icedaisey said:
It was all foretold. It's a test.


20. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and
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the devil knows he has a short time. The world has become as it was in the time before the flood, evil is all all round, and very few really know The Lord Jesus.
 
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Anthony55 said:
Here are the 10 states that are the least religious:
  1. New Hampshire (33.00%)
  2. Massachusetts (33.00%)
  3. Vermont (34.00%)
  4. Maine (34.00%)
  5. Connecticut (43.00%)
  6. Wisconsin (45.00%)
  7. Washington (45.00%)
  8. Alaska (45.00%)
  9. New York (46.00%)
  10. Hawaii (47.00%
I live in number three in the capital. The churches here fly rainbow flags and BLM signs. They are more political than they are true to the Word of God. They all want to please people rather than God. One church allows A Course In Miracles (ACIM) to be taught Which is a spiritual self-study program designed to awaken us to the truth of our oneness with God and Love. The Foundation for Inner Peace (FIP).
The book was written by a psychology professor who claims Jesus spoke to her and gave her the words to be written. They talk of love but mainly social justice. Grown men with beards walk down the street with dresses on. I feel like Lot.

The reason I am bring this to your attention is to show you how bad the churches are falling away.
Thank you for your ears.

Gods Blessings
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keep close to Jesus, your endurance will be worth while. Gods mercy and longsuffering is great but the end is at the door. It makes me sad but Gods cup is almost full and His wrath will come. Your only safety is the word of God.
 
Anthony55

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TMS said:
keep close to Jesus, your endurance will be worth while. Gods mercy and longsuffering is great but the end is at the door. It makes me sad but Gods cup is almost full and His wrath will come. Your only safety is the word of God.
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Thank you. The Word is alive and so real Brother. I love it when He gives me what I need before I ask. Once I bought turn table, radio, and CD player and I didn't have any CD's. I went to the Salvation Army store to look at their CD's and when I got there a radio announcer had just brought in four large laundry baskets of CD's. They were on sale 10 for a dollar. Then to top it off I wanted to get a bible a brown one and as I sat looking at the CD's a woman came in with two bibles to donate. The woman at the counter said they didn't take them anymore. I spoke up and said, "I'll take them." They were brown. :) The woman's husband had passed
away and that's why she was donating them. I still have them. It is little things like that, that shows us how loving a father He is. Well again thank you for your kindness.

Gods Blessings
 
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Blade said:
How did you define "many Christians" or "they"? We think what God is some how through us saying all this? There is a truth here yet when again we talk about "many" of which so much speculation is being tossed in. How many are there in our home town? I have no clue what some, many, most of the Churches (Preachers) are preacher or how much they pray on and on. Since I don't know saying the negative first as a believer would be wrong. Watched a few videos have we or read a bunch of posts? Are we judging them based on what we heard some of them say in some moment of time? There are preacher out there I know yet I have no clue who is typing here. Just being on some "Christian" forum talking about "Jesus" qualifies for you.. well as just what? What authority do you have to speak to a preacher GOD called without talking to them first? Ok your not addressing it like but in general. Still having no authority over them and them and any believer do not have to answer to anyone here.

You going to listen to me tell you what Churches or believers really need to do? Sorry just who am I again? Yeah.. in all this that 'finger" Of God in all this ..do you see it? Don't you wonder why its only pointing at you? See more are not "falling away". Well what if hearing from preachers telling how they are seeing a growth with the young people like never before or how Iran or just China seeing also a huge growth in believers in the underground Church. This "Fallen away" will be taking to really mean "fallen away" yet can also be depart meaning caught up. That personal belief is right not the fact that its one of many in the word of God we truly can not say for fact only means? Like talking to that friend lived next door Mormon. As we were talking goes back and brings out all these books.. many. I asked do are all those written just by mormons? Yes he said. Do you see?

So will the Son of man find faith. Ok wheres yours? Well faith is calling those things that be not as though they were. Its going beyond what you see and hear and feel. Just talking about what we see hear .. ok but thats not faith. Could not "some, many" be crying out to the lord to change, repent get right with God.. on and on? Your only looking through the eyes of flesh not faith not the spirit. You can speak words of life ..you can just like your Father call those things that be not as though they were.. Its Him in you.. its according to the word.
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I am not sure who you are addressing but the context of the "many chritians" from me was this.

"many Christians "today have a vast amount of disagreement for many doctrinal differences.

Do you disagree with that statement?
 
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TMS said:
the devil knows he has a short time. The world has become as it was in the time before the flood, evil is all all round, and very few really know The Lord Jesus.
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amen

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭

“Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:1-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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TMS said:
the devil knows he has a short time. The world has become as it was in the time before the flood, evil is all all round, and very few really know The Lord Jesus.
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And yet, it is all according to God's plan.

Everywhere we look is proof of God. Romans 1:20
 
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Anthony55 said:
Here are the 10 states that are the least religious:
  1. New Hampshire (33.00%)
  2. Massachusetts (33.00%)
  3. Vermont (34.00%)
  4. Maine (34.00%)
  5. Connecticut (43.00%)
  6. Wisconsin (45.00%)
  7. Washington (45.00%)
  8. Alaska (45.00%)
  9. New York (46.00%)
  10. Hawaii (47.00%
I live in number three in the capital. The churches here fly rainbow flags and BLM signs. They are more political than they are true to the Word of God. They all want to please people rather than God. One church allows A Course In Miracles (ACIM) to be taught Which is a spiritual self-study program designed to awaken us to the truth of our oneness with God and Love. The Foundation for Inner Peace (FIP).
The book was written by a psychology professor who claims Jesus spoke to her and gave her the words to be written. They talk of love but mainly social justice. Grown men with beards walk down the street with dresses on. I feel like Lot.

The reason I am bring this to your attention is to show you how bad the churches are falling away.
Thank you for your ears.

Gods Blessings
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I wouldve thought California would be number one--this gives me a little hope....
 
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many Christians today have a vast amount of disagreement for many doctrinal differences. Yet we have and are able to agree on the essentials of the faith. There is today a very hostel movement in the United States that started in the 1980s with the homosexual agenda. Today less than 40 % call themselves Christian or Identify with the born-again experience.

The hostility to the Godhead and coming from those who are so-called educated in theology and Christian doctrine. They speak of God without reverence or humility. Just like Charles Darwin who had a theological degree but was not accepted sought to grind and ax. This is nothing new.

Today Christians are called racist and there is an open mockery of the Lord Jesus Christ as never before. Biblical illiteracy and no relationship with Christ have hurt the church with those who have not been born again but fooled again. Having a form of godliness but deny the POWER of The Lord Jesus Christ.
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I wonder CS!, How it is that 10% of the population could hold such sway over our government, businesses, and even our churches.

I meet Christians I've known for years...and they are going over to the dark side--in the name of 'love' and harmony.:cry: They actually think they are being 'good'.
 
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I wonder CS!, How it is that 10% of the population could hold such sway over our government, businesses, and even our churches.

I meet Christians I've known for years...and they are going over to the dark side--in the name of 'love' and harmony.:cry: They actually think they are being 'good'.
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Jesus said when I return will I even find faith? You know in every situation it has been only 25 % that carried out the evilest attacks on man. most of the German people were peace-loving but the Nazis killed millions. Japanese were peace-loving 25% took into a world war. most of the Russian were peace-loving 25% killed 22 million people. The spirit of the antichrist is alive and well and we are about to see a move of God like never before. Playtime is over. The fence ride is done. You and I will have to choose this day who we will serve
 
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CS1 said:
there is a great attack on the Lord Jesus and The Holy Spirit today
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Depends on what a person means by attack on the Holy Spirit. I have a feeling what is meant by this is an attack on the sign gifts and so-called supernatural signs and wonders. If so, this "holy spirit" needs to be called out and exposed.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Depends on what a person means by attack on the Holy Spirit. I have a feeling what is meant by this is an attack on the sign gifts and so-called supernatural signs and wonders. If so, this "holy spirit" needs to be called out and exposed.
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WHEN I SAY ATTACK, I do not mean in any way, shape, or fashion that our Lord or the Holy Spirit is affected by what man or the devil is doing. I disagree that the "attack on the Holy Spirit" has anything to do with one not accepting the gifts of the Holy Spirit for today or one speaking out against the foolishness seen on TV or Youtube.

The attack is on those who are 'Christians" but are carnal, lukewarm, and have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.

Those who have perverted the Gospel message and the love of God in such a way that we have those in the church calling good evil and evil good. Men and women of God sitting in these churches know and support of Sexual perversion, deception, and abandonment of the truth of God's word because they do not want to offend anyone.


Now many who see the error of their ways want to suggest that there is an attack on the Holy Spirit. Who is God? The devil is a liar.

Nothing can resist God. Only the lack of faith and obedience removes the promises of God and gives place to the devil. We are not to give place to the devil. Adam gave place to the devil, Cain gave place to the devil, David gave place to the devil, and Solomon.

The devil did not take what they gave to him. Jesus took from the devil what man gave to him.

Give no place to the devil. Submit to God and resist the devil; he will run from you.

People are sowing to the flesh and reaping corruption. In addition, we are in the last days; as Jesus said, you should be able to see IF you are actively looking through his word and knowing the signs of the times.
 
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WHEN I SAY ATTACK, I do not mean in any way, shape, or fashion that our Lord or the Holy Spirit is affected by what man or the devil is doing. I disagree that the "attack on the Holy Spirit" has anything to do with one not accepting the gifts of the Holy Spirit for today or one speaking out against the foolishness seen on TV or Youtube.

The attack is on those who are 'Christians" but are carnal, lukewarm, and have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.

Those who have perverted the Gospel message and the love of God in such a way that we have those in the church calling good evil and evil good. Men and women of God sitting in these churches know and support of Sexual perversion, deception, and abandonment of the truth of God's word because they do not want to offend anyone.


Now many who see the error of their ways want to suggest that there is an attack on the Holy Spirit. Who is God? The devil is a liar.

Nothing can resist God. Only the lack of faith and obedience removes the promises of God and gives place to the devil. We are not to give place to the devil. Adam gave place to the devil, Cain gave place to the devil, David gave place to the devil, and Solomon.

The devil did not take what they gave to him. Jesus took from the devil what man gave to him.

Give no place to the devil. Submit to God and resist the devil; he will run from you.

People are sowing to the flesh and reaping corruption. In addition, we are in the last days; as Jesus said, you should be able to see IF you are actively looking through his word and knowing the signs of the times.
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If one will not stand for the truth of God's word when it is unpopular, one will not do so when they make it illegal.
 
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many Christians today have a vast amount of disagreement for many doctrinal differences. Yet we have and are able to agree on the essentials of the faith. There is today a very hostel movement in the United States that started in the 1980s with the homosexual agenda. Today less than 40 % call themselves Christian or Identify with the born-again experience.

The hostility to the Godhead and coming from those who are so-called educated in theology and Christian doctrine. They speak of God without reverence or humility. Just like Charles Darwin who had a theological degree but was not accepted sought to grind and ax. This is nothing new.

Today Christians are called racist and there is an open mockery of the Lord Jesus Christ as never before. Biblical illiteracy and no relationship with Christ have hurt the church with those who have not been born again but fooled again. Having a form of godliness but deny the POWER of The Lord Jesus Christ.
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I'm not sure if it was ever different. I will say something which will be misunderstood [by good brethren] but the communications industry, new means of and technicality have exploded.

Communication is EVERYTHING we live not by bread alone but by communication [of the word of God, the gospel.]

People who shun God's prosperity have hindered the communication of the gospel and given a free run to the great enemy of the gospel.

The Light shines brighter as the darkness deepens.

Is the church prepared to receive a MASSIVE influx of refugees, spiritual refugees? men and women resurrected and rescued out of the trans/homosexual community but yet still in their grave clothes and stinking?

The church is neither of the mind or heart for the revival God would send. Her mind is only on protection and entrenchment.

But they who know [and love] the Lord will talk often together and book of remembrance will have their names in it.
 
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