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John146

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Does the Bible enunciate the truth of the process by which the human body undergoes self-repair for a minor wound? No.

Does the Bible identify the truth of the Fibonacci sequence which is found throughout the natural world? No.

Does the Bible specify the truth of the wind speed and associated conditions resulting in a tornado? No.

Does the Bible tell you the truth that flossing your teeth and limiting your sugar intake will help you keep your teeth? No.
If these were necessary to holy living, then these "truths" would be in God's word.
 

John146

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This is supposed to support your claim, "the Holy Spirit seals the believer and leads to the truth of the scriptures"?

You're focusing on the first part of the verse, which does support the claim, and completely ignoring the rest of your claim, which is the part with which I contend.

So let's try it again: Which verse supports your claim that the Holy Spirit leads to the truth of the Scriptures"?
Did you not post a verse earlier stating the Holy Spirit leads us unto truth? See also...

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
 

Dino246

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If these were necessary to holy living, then these "truths" would be in God's word.
Ephesians 4:30 doesn't say that the Holy Spirit will lead us into "all the truth necessary to holy living"; it says He will lead us into all truth.

Why do you keep misrepresenting God's holy word?
 

John146

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We're not going to bicker on that point in this thread.
Fair enough...just so you know, I really do admire you as a brother in Christ. You have made me think hard on several occasions. You come across harsh at times, but I really don't mind it. I can take it. I'm not part of the snowflake generation.;)
 

John146

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#86
Ephesians 4:30 doesn't say that the Holy Spirit will lead us into "all the truth necessary to holy living"; it says He will lead us into all truth.

Why do you keep misrepresenting God's holy word?
I posted Ephesians 4:30 to show God's sealing through the Holy Spirit.
 

Dino246

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I posted Ephesians 4:30 to show God's sealing through the Holy Spirit.
Which was never at issue. Perhaps you thought that was what I was challenging; it wasn't, at all.
 

Fundaamental

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I just wonder if people would forget there's no limits with what God would not do to save a person ?

Maybe the issue lyes with the idea for people to be saved they must do so by there own initiative,
But let's be honest here is a drug addict going to save himself by his own initiative,

Or is a person who enquired about Jesus but got sent down the wrong path going to get saved by his own initiative.

Perhaps the message was heard and God decided to bring truth to that persons life who was sent in a wrong direction.

Would we not be putting God in a box by saying God would not chooses to bring a personal prophecy spoken from one individual to another individual. to bring them to correct worship. ?.

I couldn't imagine God being happy by a seeker being sent in a wrong direction.

But I could imagine God watching that person life and even going as far as revealing a personal Prophecy spoken from another individual a believer to bring him to worship.

Wouldn't such prophecy be of the spirit and worthy of True testimony
 

ResidentAlien

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I just wonder if people would forget there's no limits with what God would not do to save a person ?
Yes, there are limits. "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say."

The end does not justify the means.
 

Fundaamental

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Yes, there are limits. "And why not say, 'Let us do evil that good may come'?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say."

The end does not justify the means.
well the best way to answer this is God will remain faithful even when we do not,

I'm Shaw you understand this.

And this would also be a personal prophecy from me to you for the future 😊
 

Fundaamental

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The best answer is for us to remain faithful and let God do what He's going to do.
that depends on how strong a person's faith is. But can faith for you or me be as strong as God's
 

Fundaamental

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It means remaining faithful to God's word and sound doctrine.
I have Angus Buchan for sound doctrine. Then I have prayer but I can't be faithful to doctrin, I can hold on to its values and what ever set of beliefs a particular doctrin may hold, and if I can always remember the appropriate cause of action for any eventuality when they arise from doctrin, which if you say you can at all times then your a better mindful person than I am.


But reality should tell you, you may sometimes choose the wrong word or doctrine.

So the only doctrine I can show sound doctrine to is the one that when your unsure you look for answers in the bible rather than try to make a particular doctrine suit that event. As I wouldn't want to fall into an event horizon
 

ResidentAlien

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But reality should tell you, you may sometimes choose the wrong word or doctrine.
I wouldn't disagree with that. The idea isn't to have perfect doctrine but to have more sound than unsound; and to adhere to what you know is sound. It's not about having perfect understanding, but understanding enough to know how to avoid the false.

"You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 3:1718
 

Fundaamental

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I wouldn't disagree with that. The idea isn't to have perfect doctrine but to have more sound than unsound; and to adhere to what you know is sound. It's not about having perfect understanding, but understanding enough to know how to avoid the false.

"You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 3:1718
And is there any chance this scripture could have been revealed to you by the holy spirit without you having to re-site it, say in the form of seeking the holy spirit for diserment, where by the holy spirit gave this scripture to you as a personal prophecy from you to me to aid my way of thinking.
 

ResidentAlien

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And is there any chance this scripture could have been revealed to you by the holy spirit without you having to re-site it, say in the form of seeking the holy spirit for diserment, where by the holy spirit gave this scripture to you as a personal prophecy from you to me to aid my way of thinking.
I don't know, I don't have an opinion about it one way or another.
 
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Niki7

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It amazes me how people think so little of the word of God. Well, most don’t even believe they have it, soooo….
Self righteous much?
 
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Niki7

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And who gave you the right to sit in judgment over another Christian? Your rants mean nothing, and your posts are all about you and your opinions.
Actually, It is YOU doing the judgement by dismissing any and every single post wherein someone might disagree with you. And that applies across the board; not just in threads about spiritual gifts.

You know, those who are spiritual can judge. Says so right here:

…14The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.… I Corinthians

So what can we say to those who are of the mistaken understanding that the Holy Spirit does not operate as He did in Acts or in other books of the Bible? See, the Trinity are not impaled on the pages of anyone's Bible OR understanding. It is our guide and as such, must be used that way in order to discern and not just dismiss everything you think should not be according to your own understanding