What did He see?
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What He saw was purpose because what Jesus would do with people who were sick or dead was re-purpose them or get them to function after a new purpose.
An example of purpose change is like with the Jairus's daughter, she's supposed to be dead imagewise in the physical but Jesus said that she was asleep. Even though imagewise she was dead He still was subject to God to serve that new purpose/word about her being "asleep" by telling her to "wake up".
Purpose and serving is a Father and son relationship as in i speak a word/purpose which is God "faith" about a thing and treat it as such and God proves it right.
The natural deals in image only, what it looks,feels,taste,touch,smells like and all of the natural senses.
God deals with purpose which is invisible but uses the image or what is seen as its medium so that it can be seen through the one who serves His purpose.
You can't see purpose but you can be sent to serve it and have it proven through you like in John 9:7 or Luke 17:14.
The thing about Jesus is He Himself is the purpose of God and if you serve Him it's literally the same thing. When you cooperate you also become a part of that purpose and as a result healing or whatever it was that you needed happens.
An example of purpose change is like with the Jairus's daughter, she's supposed to be dead imagewise in the physical but Jesus said that she was asleep. Even though imagewise she was dead He still was subject to God to serve that new purpose/word about her being "asleep" by telling her to "wake up".
Purpose and serving is a Father and son relationship as in i speak a word/purpose which is God "faith" about a thing and treat it as such and God proves it right.
The natural deals in image only, what it looks,feels,taste,touch,smells like and all of the natural senses.
God deals with purpose which is invisible but uses the image or what is seen as its medium so that it can be seen through the one who serves His purpose.
You can't see purpose but you can be sent to serve it and have it proven through you like in John 9:7 or Luke 17:14.
The thing about Jesus is He Himself is the purpose of God and if you serve Him it's literally the same thing. When you cooperate you also become a part of that purpose and as a result healing or whatever it was that you needed happens.
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Beautiful! It’s like what I do daily, in the measure that God has given me. Our gifts differ, of course.
Each child of God is at a certain height spiritually. And growing at a certain pace or appears to be not growing.
Some are still walking before men.
We are instruments in Gods hands, to be a blessing to those around us.
Even the best preacher or the nicest person has failure or shortcomings.
Ultimately so we can say, “see what God did.”
Too often the human heart is looking for glory.
It pays to be saturated with the word of God, for our own correction and to guide others.
But to walk in the spirit is something else, and to hear that still small voice from God directing us even before we meet a situation, is amazing.
(writing is not my gift)
A relative was on his death bed,
but in denial,
far away, (he professed to be Christian but had no peace on his sick bed)
after just a phone call,
a few words to impart faith,
then i heard a friend would be in the area the next day,
Who was able to pray with him,
Lead him to the LORD.
Passed away with abundant peace of God a few days later.
Each child of God is at a certain height spiritually. And growing at a certain pace or appears to be not growing.
Some are still walking before men.
We are instruments in Gods hands, to be a blessing to those around us.
Even the best preacher or the nicest person has failure or shortcomings.
Ultimately so we can say, “see what God did.”
Too often the human heart is looking for glory.
It pays to be saturated with the word of God, for our own correction and to guide others.
But to walk in the spirit is something else, and to hear that still small voice from God directing us even before we meet a situation, is amazing.
(writing is not my gift)
A relative was on his death bed,
but in denial,
far away, (he professed to be Christian but had no peace on his sick bed)
after just a phone call,
a few words to impart faith,
then i heard a friend would be in the area the next day,
Who was able to pray with him,
Lead him to the LORD.
Passed away with abundant peace of God a few days later.
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“And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?”
Mark 4:39-41 KJV
creation is reacting to his word because of who he is the creator
“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Genesis 1:3
He speaks forth faith itself even to the dead
“And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.”
Mark 5:41-42 KJV
“Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked;”
“God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Jesus is the source
And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?”
Mark 4:39-41 KJV
creation is reacting to his word because of who he is the creator
“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Genesis 1:3
He speaks forth faith itself even to the dead
“And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.”
Mark 5:41-42 KJV
“Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked;”
“God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Jesus is the source
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Well, from eternity in the past, the Second Person of the Trinity, who became Jesus, has been with the First Person as his Agent for everything he did with the power of the Third Person, the Holy Spirit. In creation, for example, the Bible says that the Father made everything and everyone through the Second Person (later, Jesus) by the Third Person's power. To answer your question, he saw everything the Father did.
The heavenly Father is God to Jesus Christ, and as Logos he is God to the heavenly Father, Hebrews 1:8. They are in full unity, with full agreement, as one being, the Supreme Being, through all eternity, there is just the one true God. And the name of God, that the three who are the one God share, is the name of Yahweh that was revealed.
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you know how we have the father ? And then the son , and then the holy spirit ?
They are one in Christ Jesus
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
In Christ dwells the father son and Holy Ghost bodily , one person revealed to mankind
The only place to actually see God the father is when we meet Jesus and get to know him because it’s the Heavenly Father , made flesh and later his spirit was given to all that believe
fether son and holt ghost is a concept that lets us understand God and man who’s made in his image
They are one in Christ Jesus
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
In Christ dwells the father son and Holy Ghost bodily , one person revealed to mankind
The only place to actually see God the father is when we meet Jesus and get to know him because it’s the Heavenly Father , made flesh and later his spirit was given to all that believe
fether son and holt ghost is a concept that lets us understand God and man who’s made in his image
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
Genesis 1:1
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
John 1:10 KJV
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”( all of God in one body )
Colossians 2:9 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:18-19 KJV
If you read the Bible from this point forward Nono e is ever baptized nor do they baptize in any name but Jesus the reason is Jesus is the father son and holt ghost in one person manifest to the world our lord and our God
the father is God hidden , the son is God revealed , his holy spirit is God with us
Genesis 1:1
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
John 1:10 KJV
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”( all of God in one body )
Colossians 2:9 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:18-19 KJV
If you read the Bible from this point forward Nono e is ever baptized nor do they baptize in any name but Jesus the reason is Jesus is the father son and holt ghost in one person manifest to the world our lord and our God
the father is God hidden , the son is God revealed , his holy spirit is God with us
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do you see this ? it is a concept of the one true God it’s there tonhelp
Man understand God and his plan of redemption through Christ Jesus
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
Just this verse has already established the foundation of this concept of the one and only God. Now consider that you have God whom is one with his spirit and his word
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth…. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Genesis 1:1-3 KJV
God his own spirit not a different person or being but it’s his spirit and then we hear his word
this is where the concept of father ( , son word made flesh ) and Gods Holy Spirit
Is
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
The word who is God and is of God , was made flesh and appeared in the form of the son
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
…And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1, 14 KJV
So the word become flesh is the son the name of the son jesus is the name of the everlasting father , the prince of peace the wonderful counselor the good shepherd our lord and our God has a name it is the name of the son Jesus
These three are one person and have one name
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:18-19 KJV
not baptize then in the names of but name as in one name of all three titles
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
The son is the fulness of the godhead bodily
So they baptized in the name of the fe her son and Holy Ghost here
“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
Acts 19:5 KJV
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12 KJV
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
Romans 6:3 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( not a name a title )
Acts 2:38
The father , is the son and it’s his Holy Spirit we receive
“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.”
Galatians 4:6 KJV
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
1 Corinthians 3:16
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
Romans 8:9 KJV
the spirit of God the spirit of Gods son , the Holy Ghost , the spirit of Christ is just one spirit he is one
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
“. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:27-29
“And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
“I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:5-6 KJV
Man understand God and his plan of redemption through Christ Jesus
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
Just this verse has already established the foundation of this concept of the one and only God. Now consider that you have God whom is one with his spirit and his word
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth…. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
Genesis 1:1-3 KJV
God his own spirit not a different person or being but it’s his spirit and then we hear his word
this is where the concept of father ( , son word made flesh ) and Gods Holy Spirit
Is
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
The word who is God and is of God , was made flesh and appeared in the form of the son
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
…And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1, 14 KJV
So the word become flesh is the son the name of the son jesus is the name of the everlasting father , the prince of peace the wonderful counselor the good shepherd our lord and our God has a name it is the name of the son Jesus
These three are one person and have one name
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:18-19 KJV
not baptize then in the names of but name as in one name of all three titles
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
The son is the fulness of the godhead bodily
So they baptized in the name of the fe her son and Holy Ghost here
“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
Acts 19:5 KJV
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12 KJV
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
Romans 6:3 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( not a name a title )
Acts 2:38
The father , is the son and it’s his Holy Spirit we receive
“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.”
Galatians 4:6 KJV
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
1 Corinthians 3:16
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
Romans 8:9 KJV
the spirit of God the spirit of Gods son , the Holy Ghost , the spirit of Christ is just one spirit he is one
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV
“. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:27-29
“And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
“I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:5-6 KJV
Cameron143 said:
Maybe I should attempt to clarify. And thanks for responding.
In Jesus' life He moved from place to place and taught and performed miracles and healed and so forth. But He didn't go everywhere or teach everyone or always perform miracles or heal.
So how did He know when to and when not to? What was God doing that Jesus recognized that led to Him joining God in what He was doing?
Yeah, sometimes he went to have a pizza, or some such, and mayhaps, he went to the cleaners to pick up his spare robe.......... BTW, your comments suggest Jesus is LESS than God............ Jesus is GOD! When He was here on earth, He was fully man AND fully God..........you DO KNOW THAT, right?
Maybe I should attempt to clarify. And thanks for responding.
In Jesus' life He moved from place to place and taught and performed miracles and healed and so forth. But He didn't go everywhere or teach everyone or always perform miracles or heal.
So how did He know when to and when not to? What was God doing that Jesus recognized that led to Him joining God in what He was doing?
Yeah, sometimes he went to have a pizza, or some such, and mayhaps, he went to the cleaners to pick up his spare robe.......... BTW, your comments suggest Jesus is LESS than God............ Jesus is GOD! When He was here on earth, He was fully man AND fully God..........you DO KNOW THAT, right?
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Obviously, before he took on human flesh, the Father made all things and humans through the second Person, who later became Jesus, with the Holy Spirit's power. The Father, he, and the Spirit as our ONE God work together to create the universe, save his people, and help them grow to be more like Jesus, who sees and does all that the Father sees and does.
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God is ALWAYS at work.........Scripture makes that clear...... maybe this will help:
God the Father: God OF man. God desired a personal relationship with His people, but that is not possible because humans looking on Him will die.
God the Son: God AS man. So God put in place His Master Plan to achieve His desire. God the Son came in the form of man to walk with and talk with and TEACH man AND to be the "living sacrifice" which would pay for the sins of man and make them worthy to be called children of the Living God. This salvation plan would be the cornerstone for man being able to approach the Throne of God with boldness.
God the Holy Spirit: God WITHIN man is when God became ONE with His children. Living within them, teaching them all things of Him. The Holy Spirit is the VERY ESSENCE of God........... and the personal relationship He desired is/was realized through the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Those sanctified believers who have the indwelling presence are the fulfillment of His desire.
GOD IS ALWAYS WORKING.........within man, and within the world, and within all of creation.
God the Father: God OF man. God desired a personal relationship with His people, but that is not possible because humans looking on Him will die.
God the Son: God AS man. So God put in place His Master Plan to achieve His desire. God the Son came in the form of man to walk with and talk with and TEACH man AND to be the "living sacrifice" which would pay for the sins of man and make them worthy to be called children of the Living God. This salvation plan would be the cornerstone for man being able to approach the Throne of God with boldness.
God the Holy Spirit: God WITHIN man is when God became ONE with His children. Living within them, teaching them all things of Him. The Holy Spirit is the VERY ESSENCE of God........... and the personal relationship He desired is/was realized through the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. Those sanctified believers who have the indwelling presence are the fulfillment of His desire.
GOD IS ALWAYS WORKING.........within man, and within the world, and within all of creation.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
It was the Father doing the works through the Son.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
It was the Father doing the works through the Son.
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Thanks for the reply.
Perhaps I should elaborate again.
Jesus is fully God. But He also became fully man.
During His time on earth He says that He always does what He sees the Father doing. He could have said I do always what I hear the Father saying. But He doesn't. He says...what I see the Father doing.
Now that can mean a number of things. Perhaps He had visions. Perhaps it is just a euphemism for being one with the Father. Or...perhaps He recognized the works of the Father in people and in the world and responded to that.
This is the thought behind the question.
Perhaps I should elaborate again.
Jesus is fully God. But He also became fully man.
During His time on earth He says that He always does what He sees the Father doing. He could have said I do always what I hear the Father saying. But He doesn't. He says...what I see the Father doing.
Now that can mean a number of things. Perhaps He had visions. Perhaps it is just a euphemism for being one with the Father. Or...perhaps He recognized the works of the Father in people and in the world and responded to that.
This is the thought behind the question.