Go ye into all the world and announce the MILLENNIUM to every creature

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Evmur

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Why is nobody preaching it? why is it treated as a mere peripheral teaching in the church. It is the very heart and core of what Jesus told us to preach.

We preach Heaven and that's good but nobody really understands what Heaven will be. Heaven ON EARTH ah! that's different, that's something folks can understand. A Kingdom of justice, peace, no more wars, and plenty prosperity for everybody.

And Jesus is the King.
 

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Why is nobody preaching it?
Because it's not the heart and core of the gospel. The gospel is Christ crucified for our sins; and salvation to all who believe in Him.
 

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Where does it say preach the millennium lol. You equate millennium with kingdom, nothing forces you to do that.

Premills and Amills can BOTH preach the Gospel of the kingdom, LUCKILY
 

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Where does it say preach the millennium lol. You equate millennium with kingdom, nothing forces you to do that.

Premills and Amills can BOTH preach the Gospel of the kingdom, LUCKILY
The Millennium is 1, 000 years when Jesus will reign on Earth with His saints. This is what the Jews understand as the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom.

The gospel is the good news announcement about this Kingdom.

Amills minus the the kingdom itself. They preach the good news but forget telling about the kingdom.

They say the kingdom is now ... it is a blown doctrine for they teach that the world will get better and better, that everyone will become Christian and so the kingdom is just growing to maturity.

But this denies all the end times prophecies say there will be rebellion wars and disasters.
 

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The Millennium is 1, 000 years when Jesus will reign on Earth with His saints. This is what the Jews understand as the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom.

The gospel is the good news announcement about this Kingdom.

Amills minus the the kingdom itself. They preach the good news but forget telling about the kingdom.

They say the kingdom is now ... it is a blown doctrine for they teach that the world will get better and better, that everyone will become Christian and so the kingdom is just growing to maturity.

But this denies all the end times prophecies say there will be rebellion wars and disasters.
The doctrine of everything getting better and better is POSTMILLENNIALISM not AMILLENNIALISM.

I obviously disagree with that idea. BUT I would still say you can be postmill and preach the gospel, can we agree on that?
 

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The doctrine of everything getting better and better is POSTMILLENNIALISM not AMILLENNIALISM.

I obviously disagree with that idea. BUT I would still say you can be postmill and preach the gospel, can we agree on that?
... why not just believe in the Millennium? that Jesus will reign with His saints on earth. This is the gospel of the Kingdom which Jesus said preach.
 

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Because it's not the heart and core of the gospel. The gospel is Christ crucified for our sins; and salvation to all who believe in Him.
"All power in Heaven and ON EARTH is given unto Me, go ye therefore and preach the good news to every creature"
 

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Why is nobody preaching it? why is it treated as a mere peripheral teaching in the church. It is the very heart and core of what Jesus told us to preach.

We preach Heaven and that's good but nobody really understands what Heaven will be. Heaven ON EARTH ah! that's different, that's something folks can understand. A Kingdom of justice, peace, no more wars, and plenty prosperity for everybody.

And Jesus is the King.
How can they preach it (the undivided kingdom) when they run from anything to the left of the book Matthew? They do not understand the gospel is about Re-uniting the divided kingdoms and have true peace and safety in a Marriage Covenant. The entire Bible eludes to or directly confirms it is all about the COVENANT. (See Hebrews 8:8 and Jeremiah 31:31)

A King needs a Kingdom of citizens who obey/not a bunch of rebels
A King needs LAWS to rule by and a court of hearings and judgments.
A King needs LAND, Seas and properties
A King needs a SIGN for His Kingdom.
A King needs lower kings and also Priests to Serve on behalf of the Kingdom.

But again, very few will enter into the Kingdom because they are just hung up on doing heathen/pagan ways and heathen/pagan practices.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Luk 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

Exo_13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.


Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel (ALL 12 TRIBES), saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
 

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Why is nobody preaching it? why is it treated as a mere peripheral teaching in the church. It is the very heart and core of what Jesus told us to preach.

We preach Heaven and that's good but nobody really understands what Heaven will be. Heaven ON EARTH ah! that's different, that's something folks can understand. A Kingdom of justice, peace, no more wars, and plenty prosperity for everybody.

And Jesus is the King.
We're suppose to preach God's Word and not wander from it. However, there are three or four possible interpretations of the few key passages. I think we need to preach on the undisputed passages most of all.
 

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Why is nobody preaching it?
Because that is not the core of the Gospel. Except a sinner is born again he or she can neither enter nor see the Kingdom of God.
 
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As i almost agree with you on a thing, you go and ruin it, with dispensationalist plop.
 

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Correct me if i am wrong but Jesus on his coming on the end times will reign for 1000 years ( heaven ) , then satan will be released for a short time according to the book of revelations then he will battle with the lord and will lose and be judged, thrown in the lake of fire, then there will be a new earth a new jesuralem ( absolutely huge) GOD himself dwell with the saints in this new Jerusalem forever, evil done forever! Do I have the sequence of events correct according to scriptures?
 

Nehemiah6

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We preach Heaven and that's good but nobody really understands what Heaven will be.
It does not matter. We preach CHRIST and Him crucified, buried, resurrected, and ascended to Heaven. The focus must always be on Christ Himself, since He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, as well as the Resurrection and the Life.
 

Grace911

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Correct me if i am wrong but Jesus on his coming on the end times will reign for 1000 years ( heaven ) , then satan will be released for a short time according to the book of revelations then he will battle with the lord and will lose and be judged, thrown in the lake of fire, then there will be a new earth a new jesuralem ( absolutely huge) GOD himself dwell with the saints in this new Jerusalem forever, evil done forever! Do I have the sequence of events correct according to scriptures?
We want be in heaven for the 7th millennium. We will be on earth. Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The wicked have this to look forward to.

Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
 

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Because that is not the core of the Gospel. Except a sinner is born again he or she can neither enter nor see the Kingdom of God.
There ya go, you say repent, believe, get borned again

... and leave out the Kingdom bit.

If you tell people there is a new King and a new kingdom ... and I don't dispute the kingdom is present now in the hearts of believers but not yet manifest .... if you tell them it is a kingdom of righteousness, peace and prosperity, their response will be "wow how can I get in?"

Now you can tell them about the King and Him crucified and repentance and pardon, the new birth.
 

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How can they preach it (the undivided kingdom) when they run from anything to the left of the book Matthew? They do not understand the gospel is about Re-uniting the divided kingdoms and have true peace and safety in a Marriage Covenant. The entire Bible eludes to or directly confirms it is all about the COVENANT. (See Hebrews 8:8 and Jeremiah 31:31)

A King needs a Kingdom of citizens who obey/not a bunch of rebels
A King needs LAWS to rule by and a court of hearings and judgments.
A King needs LAND, Seas and properties
A King needs a SIGN for His Kingdom.
A King needs lower kings and also Priests to Serve on behalf of the Kingdom.

But again, very few will enter into the Kingdom because they are just hung up on doing heathen/pagan ways and heathen/pagan practices.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Luk 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.

Exo_13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel (ALL 12 TRIBES), saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
... not quite sure what you are saying, are you speaking about the Jews?

I believe no rapture until the Jews are converted.

Our portion in the Kingdom is the heavenly one ... the Jews are not raptured but reign with Christ ON EARTH. They have the glory of bringing the rest of mankind in during the 1, 000 years.

I don't believe in "few"