Its time to shine saints.....lets bring in the harvest.

Sharing ones good news seems to be a unpopular thing to do.
Sharing a christian song between friends seems to be critical too.
Its no wonder why this world is so confused about christians or so called christians.
I believe everyone is entitled to there opinion but to express it to derail a thread, to criticize others, to sow discourse is pathetic.
This whole forum imo is the condition of the church in general and its a sad one to say the least. May the Lord forgive us all.
The title of this thread "its time to shine saints" refers to the light that is in you ....not the glitter of your sword.
We have all been given freedoms in Christ Jesus, some profitable some not but none the less they are freedoms.

I thought we could rejoice in the fact that the Lord was moving even in the midst of the storm we are all dealing with in this present day. Some of these responces say different.
Faith comes by hearing....hearing brings hope....spirituality is a discipline to be mastered.

So trouble maker me is wondering how is your Philosophy of which you refused to provide anything to call it fact? Hidden scripture? Pjilosophy? all I wanted was to get you to understand that the things you were speaking of is rooted in the occult and honestly I dodged a bullet with you


I ddid a lot of research and had wise council on a forum for Christian Philosophy they taught and explained it to me andf when I said the reason why I was wanting to learn it and spoke of only a few things you said to ask if it is considered philosophy.

One of them explained to me about gnostic emotionalism and all kinds of spiritual groups that are blending in to the body ect. But not only are you on a dangerous road honestly I think you just like the feeling of being spiritually filled I don't think your wanting to go further and you were all for basically anything I said no martter what until this fight between us.

Suddenly your calling me a troubule maker and the rest of your posts about me were just not worth reading you fliup sides so quickly don't you and yet I told you that if I am friends with someone it means something you however showed that as long as I agree with you we are best buds but if I should dare question you and try to help you see the danger that I explained to you that I know of because my sister is in this stuff I know the signs the red flags.

Sharing a christian song between friends seems to be critical too.

You probably don't realize it, but when you share a David Crowder video you're sharing a lot more than simply a song. Crowder's label is ultimately owned by Universal Music Group, the biggest music company around. They represent every worldly musician and group you can think of, pumping out the most worldly and satanic ideology there is.

Why would Crowder partner with such a company? There are only two reasons: money and fame. Someone might say well, certain compromises must be made for the sake of the good news. That's not what Jesus taught; He taught no one can serve two masters. Crowder has compromised himself and the gospel for money. If he quit turning a profit his label would drop him in nothing flat. He hasn't done anything for the gospel; he's actually compromised it and said to anyone listening it's okay to compromise.

I realize a lot of people don't know a lot of this, but they should. I have nothing against friends sharing a Christian song, but when the Contemporary Christian Music industry is involved, the music stop being Christian and becomes satanic.

I don't know much about Crowder, but I agree that it's important to read the lyrics of Christian songs and make sure they hold up against what the Bible says and that it's not watered down.

You probably don't realize it, but when you share a David Crowder video you're sharing a lot more than simply a song. Crowder's label is ultimately owned by Universal Music Group, the biggest music company around. They represent every worldly musician and group you can think of, pumping out the most worldly and satanic ideology there is.

Why would Crowder partner with such a company? There are only two reasons: money and fame. Someone might say well, certain compromises must be made for the sake of the good news. That's not what Jesus taught; He taught no one can serve two masters. Crowder has compromised himself and the gospel for money. If he quit turning a profit his label would drop him in nothing flat. He hasn't done anything for the gospel; he's actually compromised it and said to anyone listening it's okay to compromise.

I realize a lot of people don't know a lot of this, but they should. I have nothing against friends sharing a Christian song, but when the Contemporary Christian Music industry is involved, the music stops being Christian and becomes satanic.

I appreciate your concerns on this matter. Truly i was not going to respond to this in defending crowder. Im not. Just putting it out there.

I personally dont know crowder. I personally have not seen him speak of justifying compromise. His message seems to be pointing to JESUS, praising God, and edifing the s. His lyrics seem in order with scripture. Now why would the enemy want that? I could be wrong, cant know everything.
The music industry has change since my day. I have no clue of the ins and outs of it.
Contemporary music has alway clashed with traditional hymns and organ playing.

If you can show me proof other than what is assumed to be a compromise Id greatly appreciate that.
Is there any 100 percent christian music industry out there? And if so are they making money.? Do they promote and endorse for free? Do the preformers work for free, tour for free.

I do watch and listen to what is said and sung, and have no trouble in rebuking that which is corrupt.
I have also seen things and people scandalized in appearance of being corrupt.

I've already shown proof; I'm not assuming anything. But for your sake I'll see if I can't make it perfectly clear. Look up any of Crowder's albums on Wikipedia. His label is Sparrow/Sixsteps. Sparrow is owned by Capitol CMG (Christian Music Group). Capitol CMG is owned by Universal Music Group. Here's a long list of UMG artists that are published under their umbrella: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Music_Group_artists.

I don't know Crowder personally either, but I don't need to. Let me ask the question I already asked: If you were a Christian author, and the Church of Satan offered to publish your books, would you do it? You may write the best Christian theology; you may say everything your audience would expect you to say. But should I think you're not compromised? Absolutely not. Anyone who would partner with the enemy is an enemy of Christ.

For whatever it's worth, I don't think Crowder's teaching or theology are sound; but if you don't see how he's compromised by partnering with UMG, going into his teaching would be a waste of time.

Looked at the list you sent. Glad to see JESUS still sits with sinners (just had to).
Who would you say he should of signed with?

SMH, you can lead a horse to water . . .

If you were a Christian author, and the Church of Satan told you they would publish one of your books, would you do it? My point is, this is precisely what contemporary Christian musicians have done; not just Crowder, but every single popular CC group and musician. There are only two or three giant music labels and these serve as umbrella companies for all the rest—CCM and the worldly artists as well. Universal Music Group doesn't have "Satan" as part of it's name but that's exactly who they are and what they do: they export the most worldly and Satanic music available.

I get what you mean. We're not to partner with the world. We're not to be unequally yoked with the unbelievers.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will live with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be my people.”
17 Therefore,

“Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”
18 And,

“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”

These verses tend to be overlooked, but if that's what God wants, then I'll do just that.

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I agree with you totally ☺

Lets start with the mortgage....only a christian lending institute.
Dont forget your car or truck .....only a christian bank or financial institution.
Oh groceries.....only a christian store or grow our own.
Taxes paid to a corrupt government.....no way....
Clothes....again we can make our own.
Utilities......firewood and candles for us.
Lets just trash this secularism.....big brother corrupt world...guess the amish had it right.

Let them just try to say we are not christian....for we do not deal with this world at all.....
For the sinners...well...we will see them by appointment only......at a distance.😎