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pottersclay

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Reminders - Standards​

Some Christians think more highly of themselves than they should. By elevating themselves, they find that most other people don’t measure up to their standards. They think others should pray more, read the Bible more, study more, act more loving, not be so critical, not watch so much TV, not drive so fast, should go to the same church as they do, etc. On the contrary, there are other Christians who think of themselves as being less acceptable than Christ sees them to be. They don’t believe they are living up to the religious standards that others set for them. They think others judge how they evangelize or if they do it enough, or how much they study the scriptures, or how much they pray. They think all other Christians are better than they are, even elevating some to “right there next to God” status. Most of the rest of us fall somewhere in between, still comparing, but considering ourselves as average, therefore probably acceptable Christians. If you see yourself in one of the above categories, there are two things wrong.

First, if you are going to judge yourself or others, don’t use any person other than Jesus as the standard. When our eyes are looking to Jesus as an example, we all fall far short of His obedience. None of us can measure up to His perfection, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23 Jesus is the righteous standard by which all are judged. Those who are saved recognize their salvation isn’t earned, and they can only stand before God by having His righteousness. Those who are not saved, try to earn favor with God and will fail without Him in their own righteousness. Isaiah 64:6

Second, Paul says that we should not be comparing ourselves to others. “For we dare not make ourselves of the number or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.” 2 Corinthians 10:12 We are not to be making any comparisons, neither by elevating ourselves, nor by putting others on a pedestal. Our business is to hear and be obedient to what the Lord Jesus is telling us to do. Peter fell into the trap of comparing himself to another in John 21. After Jesus told Peter how he would die, Peter asked what would happen to John. “Jesus said to him, "If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me."
Final thoughts: We can’t change what is past, so quit crying over what might have been. And only God has control of the future, so quit worrying about what might happen. But we should be living by faith in the present. Listen for His voice today, agree with what He tells YOU to do, and have no concern over what He is doing in other people’s lives. He is our only standard. Live to please Him, not others.
This is regretfully true for some but not all. Getting caught up in the 5 min of fame or thinking that you are someone special to others is a trap set by the devil. Then theres the otherside of the coin in which the listeners esteem a person over another and project this person as GODs gift to mankind....ive seen it both ways.
We must always remember that we are all servants called to do the masters work and not masters called to do a servants work.
 

Fundaamental

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This is regretfully true for some but not all. Getting caught up in the 5 min of fame or thinking that you are someone special to others is a trap set by the devil. Then theres the otherside of the coin in which the listeners esteem a person over another and project this person as GODs gift to mankind....ive seen it both ways.
We must always remember that we are all servants called to do the masters work and not masters called to do a servants work.
The servant forgets people are growing to.
That's the only relevance I can see to the op
 
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pottersclay

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The servant forgets people are growing to.
That's the only relevance I can see to the op
But is a servant above his master? To esteem yourself higher than you are, or to esteem someone higher above another
Should not happen.
God adds to the statues not man. Jesus himself walked away on many occasions due to this practice.
A flattering tongue can be deadly. One must focus on the mission rather than the majority.
 

Fundaamental

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But is a servant above his master? To esteem yourself higher than you are, or to esteem someone higher above another
Should not happen.
God adds to the statues not man. Jesus himself walked away on many occasions due to this practice.
A flattering tongue can be deadly. One must focus on the mission rather than the majority.
Of course such things happen when you don't seek the lord first.
No one is greater than his master.

The servant can carry the authority of his master if it's for the glory of God and for God and come from God.

For God has given us the power to tare down strong holds of the enemy. Amen.

anyhow I'm sorry if I was a little harsh chucking my stone.

Obviously the author of the op is not FrankSophia I realise that now.

But now it seems where judging each others standards. 😱
 

Nehemiah6

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First, if you are going to judge yourself or others, don’t use any person other than Jesus as the standard. When our eyes are looking to Jesus as an example, we all fall far short of His obedience.
Agreed. Christians should not compare themselves to other Christians for many reasons. Firstly each one is a unique person, and secondly each one is at a different stage of maturity. It is also necessary to note that those who are in the limelight are not necessarily more commendable than those who are not. And there are also other reasons.

And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the Body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: That there should be no schism in the Body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. (1 Cor 12:23-25)
 

Karlon

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the above statement certainly can be applied to band members. i know a guy who is 1 of the top drummers in the country in fact he's been called the fastest drummer in New York. the drummer, not once was ever arrogant, lofty, prideful, haughty or whatever adjective you can insert. he's a regular guy thru & thru usually on the quiet side. also he prefers to go out solo. & no one has ever said anything against the guy either.
 

oyster67

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Reminders - Standards​

Some Christians think more highly of themselves than they should. By elevating themselves, they find that most other people don’t measure up to their standards. They think others should pray more, read the Bible more, study more, act more loving, not be so critical, not watch so much TV, not drive so fast, should go to the same church as they do, etc. On the contrary, there are other Christians who think of themselves as being less acceptable than Christ sees them to be. They don’t believe they are living up to the religious standards that others set for them. They think others judge how they evangelize or if they do it enough, or how much they study the scriptures, or how much they pray. They think all other Christians are better than they are, even elevating some to “right there next to God” status. Most of the rest of us fall somewhere in between, still comparing, but considering ourselves as average, therefore probably acceptable Christians. If you see yourself in one of the above categories, there are two things wrong.

First, if you are going to judge yourself or others, don’t use any person other than Jesus as the standard. When our eyes are looking to Jesus as an example, we all fall far short of His obedience. None of us can measure up to His perfection, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23 Jesus is the righteous standard by which all are judged. Those who are saved recognize their salvation isn’t earned, and they can only stand before God by having His righteousness. Those who are not saved, try to earn favor with God and will fail without Him in their own righteousness. Isaiah 64:6

Second, Paul says that we should not be comparing ourselves to others. “For we dare not make ourselves of the number or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.” 2 Corinthians 10:12 We are not to be making any comparisons, neither by elevating ourselves, nor by putting others on a pedestal. Our business is to hear and be obedient to what the Lord Jesus is telling us to do. Peter fell into the trap of comparing himself to another in John 21. After Jesus told Peter how he would die, Peter asked what would happen to John. “Jesus said to him, "If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me."
Final thoughts: We can’t change what is past, so quit crying over what might have been. And only God has control of the future, so quit worrying about what might happen. But we should be living by faith in the present. Listen for His voice today, agree with what He tells YOU to do, and have no concern over what He is doing in other people’s lives. He is our only standard. Live to please Him, not others.
Ephesians 4:32
“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”