Stand Up to Jewish Hate a Myth?

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gb9

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[QUOTE="ThereRoseaLamb, post: 5065202, member: 320927"]But no one seems to be calling out American companies that support the BDS movement.
American corporations have become stupid and "Woke" political entities so there is little that can be done except to boycott their products. There is no question that antisemitism exists, but who are the people hating Jews? It is the Leftists.

When it comes to "antisemitism" people need to understand that LEGITIMATE criticism of specific individuals or specific Jewish organizations in not "antisemitism" and that is not "hate speech". It is the exposure of evil Jews (and that is a rather small group). There is no question that it is JEWISH BILLIONAIRES who are not only undermining America, its Constitution, free and fair elections, the rule of law, and the economy, but they are also undermining freedom and democracy worldwide. George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg are only two of these evil men promoting Communism after benefiting from capitalism. And there is a whole string of these billionaires.

Then there is the disturbing reality that American Jews have generally supported the Democratic party when the Democrats are committed to destroying America and also hate Jews. Supporting Democrats also means supporting Palestinians instead of Israel, but these Jews do not see the irony. Is it possible that some Jews are behind the BDS Movement against Israel?

Then there is the Anti Defamation League: "The Anti-Defamation League Is Not What It Seems.
Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to attack Arabs, blacks, and queers."https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-defamation-league/

So as a matter of fact conservative and sane Jews should be exposing their own evil people, but is it really happening? I do not believe sane Jews speak out against insane Jews, just kike sane blacks to do speak out against insane blacks. That could change many perceptions.[/QUOTE]

antisemitism is wrongful hate of jews, just because they are jews.

what it is not is criticizing the zion gov. of Isreal.

the jews are God's chosen people.

the zionest gov. is just like any other gov. , not above criticism.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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. Supporting Democrats also means supporting Palestinians instead of Israel, but these Jews do not see the irony. Is it possible that some Jews are behind the BDS Movement against Israel?

So as a matter of fact conservative and sane Jews should be exposing their own evil people, but is it really happening? I do not believe sane Jews speak out against insane Jews, just kike sane blacks to do speak out against insane blacks. That could change many perceptions.
My parents have a Messianic Jew that lives beside them. I thought that he might be able to explain the irony, he can't and doesn't understand it any more than we do. All I can figure is as Romans says, blinded for a time.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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"That decision by Ben & Jerry’s led to intense criticism in Israel, with the nation’s ambassador to the United States, Gilad Erdan, going so far as to accuse the company of being antisemitic. The founders of Ben & Jerry’s, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, said in an essay in The New York Times that, “As Jewish supporters of the State of Israel, we fundamentally reject the notion that it is anti-Semitic to question the policies of the State of Israel.” " https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/nyregion/ben-and-jerrys-israel-unilever.html
What policies?
 

TheLearner

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It's not possible to make an intelligent response to this stream. Define antisemitism. Is it hate? Is it opposition to the Israeli governments policies, is it support of a Palestinian nation, is it opposition to the "Jewish" faith (whatever that is)?

We Christians are blind.
anti-Semitism
noun
: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

ME: disagreing with someone on politics is not hate, nor anti-Semitism
 

TheLearner

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Speaking of boycott, there is a drug tv ad with Homosexual public display of affection, even kissing. I do not know wha the drug was.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Speaking of boycott, there is a drug tv ad with Homosexual public display of affection, even kissing. I do not know wha the drug was.

Seeing several ads now "normalizing" men in relationships. I believe I have seen trans in some makeup commercials. I guess the old folk weren't far wrong when tv first came in and they said the devil was on the rooftops.
 

Moses_Young

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Well, you explain where you think the Jews are wrong and then we can discuss it further. The thread is about standing up to Antisemitism, so what does that word mean to you?
The irony is that the "antisemitism" accusation now really serves to hide actual "antisemitism". Similar to how the accusation of "racist" is now bandied about by useful idiots whenever another does not go along with the latest craziness on the Satanic agenda.

Antisemitism once meant to be opposed to one just because that one was of Semitic origin (i.e. race), but in recent decades, has been used to silence all dissent and disagreement if the other claims to be of Jewish race or religion. For example, the claim that George Soros is an evil man is not anti-semitism, for the sole reason that George identifies with the Jewish race or religion. The claim that the Zionist state has engaged in illegal activities or crimes against humanity is not anti-semitism, simply because its leadership claims to be a Jewish state. A claim is never anti-semitism if it is true, and sometimes, is not anti-semitism even if it is false (dependent on the reasons for the error).
 

Nehemiah6

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But what are we criticizing them for?
That's the real question. When someone calls the government of Israel "Zionist" you can be sure that that reflects Palestinian propaganda and attitudes. So let's take a closer look and see if it is justified to attack the government of Israel in view of the constant military and terrorist attacks of the Palestinians.

1. At one time all the Arab states surrounding Israel were bound and determined to wipe out the nation-state of Israel.

2. They made several attempts to do so but failed each time. Was God's hand in that? It would seem so even though the secular nation of Israel rejects Christ. Today many Arabs nations have changed their attitude and tried to make peace with Israel. But not the Palestinians.

3. Many attempts for a peaceful settlement were made over the years but the evil leadership of the Palestinians did not want peace. Their only reason for existence was constant opposition to Israel and peace. Then Hamas and Hezbollah came along and all they want is terrorism.

4. The government of Israel cannot be blamed for taking every possible measure to defend and protect Israel. At the same time it has allowed Palestinians to live and work in Israel. What is really strange is that the government of Israel perpetrated its own "holocaust" against Israelis through the COVID "pandemic". That was definitely evil.

5. Ever since Obama and the Democrats took power America has been supporting Iran and failing to support Israel. On the other hand it was Trump who gave his full support to Israel and insisted that Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel. The recent riots in Israel over Netanyahu's reforms were instigated by Biden and all the Leftists. So the Biden regime is systematically working against Israel.

6. It is the evil Democrats who have been making sure that Iran has nuclear capability. And Iran has made it clear that this capability has only one goal -- the total destruction of Israel. So can anyone blame the Israeli government for going after Iran's capability? It is actually a wonder that Israel has not declared war on Iran and wiped out the mullahs.

7. The United Nations and the European Union are totally biased against Israel, and support the Palestinians regardless of all their terrorism. So that could be considered "antisemitism".
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The irony is that the "antisemitism" accusation now really serves to hide actual "antisemitism". Similar to how the accusation of "racist" is now bandied about by useful idiots whenever another does not go along with the latest craziness on the Satanic agenda.

Antisemitism once meant to be opposed to one just because that one was of Semitic origin (i.e. race), but in recent decades, has been used to silence all dissent and disagreement if the other claims to be of Jewish race or religion. For example, the claim that George Soros is an evil man is not anti-semitism, for the sole reason that George identifies with the Jewish race or religion. The claim that the Zionist state has engaged in illegal activities or crimes against humanity is not anti-semitism, simply because its leadership claims to be a Jewish state. A claim is never anti-semitism if it is true, and sometimes, is not anti-semitism even if it is false (dependent on the reasons for the error).
Ok, what crimes against humanity have they committed? What illegal activities?
 

PennEd

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We should start with saying a Christian should hate no one. Especially Jesus’s human blood relatives.

But this is a nuanced subject.

Israel is mostly an agnostic, worldly nation.
With a sizable chunk of extreme legalists, like Hasidim.

It’s the latter group that Jesus reserved His harshest criticism.

This group is also trying to globally implement “The Noahide Laws”. Which can be interpreted to be very bad. Especially against the Goyim or non Jew.

But God continues to bless the Jewish people in various ways. And He will judge them as well.

But we NEVER want to be the instrument God used to judge them. So we should love them, and support the nation. And let God deal with their hard hearts.
 

notmyown

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Have you seen the commercials saying Stand Up to Jewish Hate?? It's new catchy tagline. But no one seems to be calling out American companies that support the BDS movement. Unilever, Ben and Jerry's, Knors who make pasta sides, all a part of the BDS movement. Yet I have not seen these companies exposed. A pity that stats show there is a rise in antisemitism in the church also.
i gotta say, standing up to Jewish hate in my neighborhood means something else. :sneaky:

i live an hour north of NYC and there are enclaves of Jewish people in these southern counties. and they hate us! lol

there are reasons their surrounding neighbors are frustrated by them. but! God's people should love everyone

what a Jewish billionaire chooses to do with his money is up to him, but in some ways this is a speck--beam problem.
 

PennEd

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i gotta say, standing up to Jewish hate in my neighborhood means something else. :sneaky:

i live an hour north of NYC and there are enclaves of Jewish people in these southern counties. and they hate us! lol

there are reasons their surrounding neighbors are frustrated by them. but! God's people should love everyone

what a Jewish billionaire chooses to do with his money is up to him, but in some ways this is a speck--beam problem.
You ever been to Lakewood NJ?
 

Nehemiah6

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what a Jewish billionaire chooses to do with his money is up to him, but in some ways this is a speck--beam problem.
Not really. If a Jewish billionaire decides to become a "domestic enemy" it becomes everyone's business. Do you have any idea how systematically George Soros has been destroying America and other nations with his billions? Systematic destruction is treason and criminality. Do you know how Mark Zuckerberg undermined free and fair elections with his billions and caused an imposter to hijack the presidency? And then we have the media barons systematically making the media into Leftist propaganda tools and totally undermining the free press. And let's not forget the negative influence of Hollywood.
 

Moses_Young

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Ok, what crimes against humanity have they committed? What illegal activities?
For starters, shooting protestors is generally considered a resort of totalitarian regimes, and using violence to achieve political objectives is considered terrorism. My understanding is that the Zionist state has carried such out on numerous occasions over decades, although I accept there is a degree of propaganda. Of course, over the last 3 or so years, many Western nations have likewise outed themselves as no different, but this doesn't make it right.
 

notmyown

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Not really. If a Jewish billionaire decides to become a "domestic enemy" it becomes everyone's business. Do you have any idea how systematically George Soros has been destroying America and other nations with his billions? Systematic destruction is treason and criminality. Do you know how Mark Zuckerberg undermined free and fair elections with his billions and caused an imposter to hijack the presidency? And then we have the media barons systematically making the media into Leftist propaganda tools and totally undermining the free press. And let's not forget the negative influence of Hollywood.
yes. in this case i was just speaking of Robert Kraft, the man referred to in the OP who is funding this campaign.

for the most part, i agree with you. but these men should be prayed for; not despised by us, don't you think?