Works of the Law
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That is not an exhaustive list of sins and sins are not only what we do but also what we fail to do. (James 4:17) You can also sin in your heart, even though you don't physically commit certain sins, like adultery and murder. So you do claim to be sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolutely perfect 100% of the time exactly like Jesus Christ. Sigh.. There seems to be a growing number of deluded individuals who claim 'sinless perfection' on various Christians forum sites.
1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
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Yes, I am openly stating that I am a Son of God and a Son of God does not sin against God.
Interestingly enough, Jesus was crucified for saying this.
Now what is your testimony?
You are also Sons of God, and sin against God.
Now which testimony is the most damaging to the Holiness of God, mine or yours?
Interestingly enough, Jesus was crucified for saying this.
Now what is your testimony?
You are also Sons of God, and sin against God.
Now which testimony is the most damaging to the Holiness of God, mine or yours?
You really need to read the Gospel of Jesus, found in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John before you make these assumptions.
Why?
Because you are accusing Jesus of having a murderous thought pattern.
(Matthew 23:17 )
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
(Matthew 23:19)
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
(Luke 11:40)
Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?
Paul is also guilty.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Why?
Because you are accusing Jesus of having a murderous thought pattern.
(Matthew 23:17 )
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
(Matthew 23:19)
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
(Luke 11:40)
Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?
Paul is also guilty.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
My view
I agree that many do infuse their own sense of what they think worldly righteousness is when reading the scripture and that is a big problem --------
I disagree with your statement that the Truth is not Complicated-----anyone of us can make up our own truth about what is being said in the Scripture -----like the people who may believe the works of the law will Save them not Faith needed ----like many who believe that just because they believe that Jesus died and took all sin ---that they are free from sin and so they are heaven bound -----which is not what the the true meaning is ----you have to receive Jesus in your heart and confess your Faith in HIM to be free from sin ----so the Truth is not that simple ------also many believe that God's Agape will save them ----no faith at all needed ------the truth is not that simple ------
The Spiritual Truth which comes by way of the Rhema Word not the Logos Word is only known by and given through the Holy spirit who lives inside of the believer and directs the believe into the Spiritual Truth of the meaning of the scripture behind the written word so getting the Spiritual truth of what is being said in the Scripture is not that simple ----you need to ask and rely on the Holy Spirit's direction ---not your own human intellect ------
Many complicate the scripture by trying to get what the Scripture is saying without relying on the Holy Spirit's direction -----
You can see that right here on this sight with many who just read the Logos Word and come to their own conclusion as to what the scripture says ----dangerous for the soul in their end ------
I agree that many do infuse their own sense of what they think worldly righteousness is when reading the scripture and that is a big problem --------
I disagree with your statement that the Truth is not Complicated-----anyone of us can make up our own truth about what is being said in the Scripture -----like the people who may believe the works of the law will Save them not Faith needed ----like many who believe that just because they believe that Jesus died and took all sin ---that they are free from sin and so they are heaven bound -----which is not what the the true meaning is ----you have to receive Jesus in your heart and confess your Faith in HIM to be free from sin ----so the Truth is not that simple ------also many believe that God's Agape will save them ----no faith at all needed ------the truth is not that simple ------
The Spiritual Truth which comes by way of the Rhema Word not the Logos Word is only known by and given through the Holy spirit who lives inside of the believer and directs the believe into the Spiritual Truth of the meaning of the scripture behind the written word so getting the Spiritual truth of what is being said in the Scripture is not that simple ----you need to ask and rely on the Holy Spirit's direction ---not your own human intellect ------
Many complicate the scripture by trying to get what the Scripture is saying without relying on the Holy Spirit's direction -----
You can see that right here on this sight with many who just read the Logos Word and come to their own conclusion as to what the scripture says ----dangerous for the soul in their end ------
I don't mean to be, but the one who told me you would turn to (1 John 1) is very impressive.
He instructs me how to provide absolute proof, to those who wonder if they have been born of God. Your churches are filled with them. The message the Holy Spirit will give them will leave them with no doubt.
But that proof comes by way of repentance....and if someone refuses to repent...they will not learn the Truth now so they could have been saved....but on judgment day.
Again...look in Revelation at all the things God does to get folks to repent....and nobody does. If God with all his wisdom and power can not get people to repent...I don't stand a chance.
He instructs me how to provide absolute proof, to those who wonder if they have been born of God. Your churches are filled with them. The message the Holy Spirit will give them will leave them with no doubt.
But that proof comes by way of repentance....and if someone refuses to repent...they will not learn the Truth now so they could have been saved....but on judgment day.
Again...look in Revelation at all the things God does to get folks to repent....and nobody does. If God with all his wisdom and power can not get people to repent...I don't stand a chance.
Exactly....Which is why Paul said we become a new creation.
What changes?
We don't look any different, our personalities haven't changed,....but the nature of those born of God does.
Those who have been born of God no longer have a sinful nature...but one of righteousness.
They have a New Nature...one they share with Jesus Christ.
If someone is a sinner before they are born again, and a sinner after they are born again..
Do they have a New Nature?
If so...what's new?
Look folks...I'm simply trying to wake you up.
What changes?
We don't look any different, our personalities haven't changed,....but the nature of those born of God does.
Those who have been born of God no longer have a sinful nature...but one of righteousness.
They have a New Nature...one they share with Jesus Christ.
If someone is a sinner before they are born again, and a sinner after they are born again..
Do they have a New Nature?
If so...what's new?
Look folks...I'm simply trying to wake you up.
Because Jesus came to the Old Testament Jews, who were under the Law.
After Jesus was back in Heaven, He sent Paul the Apostle to the "body of Christ", and its Paul's doctrine that is the final authority in the "time of the Gentiles", as Paul is the chosen "Apostle to the Gentiles".
Also, "Christ is the END OF THE LAW.....for righteousness to everyone who BELIEVES"...
If you dont believe then just keep chasing Moses's Law, as if you are an old testament Jew.
No one understands they were slaves to sin until God saves them and enlightens them. They are dead.
I've patiently answered your questions. I have one for you. On what basis do you relate to God...the law or grace?
Keep in mind, I have not withheld anything from you or answered deceitfully in any way.
I've patiently answered your questions. I have one for you. On what basis do you relate to God...the law or grace?
Keep in mind, I have not withheld anything from you or answered deceitfully in any way.
I’m not sure this person is worth the effort.
He has a very warped view of Scripture right from the beginning.
He believes the nonsense that God created other human beings besides Adam and Eve, that populated the earth in the beginning.
Goliath
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Sorry I just noticed...as I learn how to maneuver through this site, I posted my comment in the wrong forum.
With the understanding Genesis one is the telling of the creation of the world, and Genesis two is the telling of the creation of the Garden of Eden, we can give a our distractors, the non believers, a creation story which better aligns with our Holy Creator. It sickens me..This "Christian" theory which seems to claim we came from an incestuous beginning. If we all came from Adam and Eve, alone, the only explanation which can be derived...is incest. I don't know who came up with this story, but I can guarantee, he was not led by Gods Holy Spirit. This is what happens when men become Great in the eyes of men, men like Matthew Henry and that lot.
With this knowledge, we can unashamedly explain Cains wife came from the those created in Genesis one, and this is also where all of Adams Sons, wives came from, those called the Sons of God. But don't take my word for it...The Bible clearly says it...
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair; and they took for themselves wives of all whom they chose.
(Genesis 6:1-2)
He has a very warped view of Scripture right from the beginning.
He believes the nonsense that God created other human beings besides Adam and Eve, that populated the earth in the beginning.
Goliath
Active member
Apr 14, 2022
#26
Sorry I just noticed...as I learn how to maneuver through this site, I posted my comment in the wrong forum.
With the understanding Genesis one is the telling of the creation of the world, and Genesis two is the telling of the creation of the Garden of Eden, we can give a our distractors, the non believers, a creation story which better aligns with our Holy Creator. It sickens me..This "Christian" theory which seems to claim we came from an incestuous beginning. If we all came from Adam and Eve, alone, the only explanation which can be derived...is incest. I don't know who came up with this story, but I can guarantee, he was not led by Gods Holy Spirit. This is what happens when men become Great in the eyes of men, men like Matthew Henry and that lot.
With this knowledge, we can unashamedly explain Cains wife came from the those created in Genesis one, and this is also where all of Adams Sons, wives came from, those called the Sons of God. But don't take my word for it...The Bible clearly says it...
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair; and they took for themselves wives of all whom they chose.
(Genesis 6:1-2)
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Yes precious friend, many have wondered about all this Confusion.
Bible answer:
God’s Context Of ‘prophecy/covenants/law’ (earthly) program:
• TWELVE Apostles (Mat. 10:2; Luk 6:13, 22:14;
Acts_1:26 = “ALL ‘FILLED With The Holy Ghost’” ch. 2 v. 4!)
• gospel of the kingdom (Mat. 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14-15)
• Commission (Mat. 28:19-20)
"faith WITHOUT works is dead" to The Twelve tribes
(James 1:1, 2:17,20,26)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
God’s Context Of GRACE / Mystery (Heavenly) Program Has Its Own:
• Apostle (Rom. 11:13; 1 Tim. 2:7)
• Gospel Of GRACE (1 Cor. 15:3-4; Eph. 2:8-9)
• Commission (2 Cor. 5:14-21; Eph. 3:9) To "The Body Of Christ!":
"Grace Through faith," Apart From ALL [man's] works, To Eternal Life!
(Eph 2:8-9; Rom 3:24, 4:5; Tit 3:5-7; Now God's OPERATION 1Co 12:13)
Conclusion: TWO Different programs are Not the same; Never Mix
them Up in Confusion (Romans 11:6), Correct?
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Are we sure we are "Approved Unto God"?
More here:
Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).
Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings
Bible answer:
God’s Context Of ‘prophecy/covenants/law’ (earthly) program:
• TWELVE Apostles (Mat. 10:2; Luk 6:13, 22:14;
Acts_1:26 = “ALL ‘FILLED With The Holy Ghost’” ch. 2 v. 4!)
• gospel of the kingdom (Mat. 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14-15)
• Commission (Mat. 28:19-20)
"faith WITHOUT works is dead" to The Twelve tribes
(James 1:1, 2:17,20,26)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
God’s Context Of GRACE / Mystery (Heavenly) Program Has Its Own:
• Apostle (Rom. 11:13; 1 Tim. 2:7)
• Gospel Of GRACE (1 Cor. 15:3-4; Eph. 2:8-9)
• Commission (2 Cor. 5:14-21; Eph. 3:9) To "The Body Of Christ!":
"Grace Through faith," Apart From ALL [man's] works, To Eternal Life!
(Eph 2:8-9; Rom 3:24, 4:5; Tit 3:5-7; Now God's OPERATION 1Co 12:13)
Conclusion: TWO Different programs are Not the same; Never Mix
them Up in Confusion (Romans 11:6), Correct?
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Are we sure we are "Approved Unto God"?
More here:
Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).
Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings
If what you say is true, why did Paul send Timotheus to these folks with the Gospel of Christ, and not his Gospel?
(1 Thessalonians 3:2) And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith:
And again...I never said anything about people needing to follow the Law of Moses.
God made a covenant with Abraham, what Law did God give to Abraham?
Was it, "The Law of Moses"?
God has made many covenants throughout time, with many different people. Were the Laws given to all of them called, "The Law of Moses"?
Many try to discredit me by saying I teach we are under the Law of Moses, which is a straight up...Lie.
When what I teach, is the covenant we are under, is a New Covenant....called the Law of Christ.
Not only me...but Paul taught the same.
Now tell me...What's the difference between the word suggestion and the word Law?
If a Law is a suggestion, why do they call it a Law???
(1 Thessalonians 3:2) And sent Timotheus, our brother, and minister of God, and our fellowlabourer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you, and to comfort you concerning your faith:
And again...I never said anything about people needing to follow the Law of Moses.
God made a covenant with Abraham, what Law did God give to Abraham?
Was it, "The Law of Moses"?
God has made many covenants throughout time, with many different people. Were the Laws given to all of them called, "The Law of Moses"?
Many try to discredit me by saying I teach we are under the Law of Moses, which is a straight up...Lie.
When what I teach, is the covenant we are under, is a New Covenant....called the Law of Christ.
Not only me...but Paul taught the same.
Now tell me...What's the difference between the word suggestion and the word Law?
If a Law is a suggestion, why do they call it a Law???
