Will Jesus "Second coming" present as a woman this time?

I'm glad you just learned that.


Isaiah 7:14, it is stated that the Lord Himself will give a sign that a virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, whose name will be called Emmanuel.

Matthew 1
New International Version


The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah
1 This is the genealogy[a] of Jesus the Messiah[b] the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,
6 and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,
8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,
11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[c] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,
15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.
17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.
Joseph Accepts Jesus as His Son
18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[d]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.”
22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”).
24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
Footnotes

1. Matthew 1:1 Or is an account of the origin
2. Matthew 1:1 Or Jesus Christ. Messiah (Hebrew) and Christ (Greek) both mean Anointed One; also in verse 18.
3. Matthew 1:11 That is, Jehoiachin; also in verse 12
4. Matthew 1:18 Or The origin of Jesus the Messiah was like this
5. Matthew 1:19 Or was a righteous man and
6. Matthew 1:21 Jesus is the Greek form of Joshua, which means the Lord saves.
7. Matthew 1:23 Isaiah 7:14

iow you can't just pull Matthew 1:23 out and say Jesus's name isn't Jesus as though Matthew 1:21 doesn't exist.

This is the important part:

"God is salvation" = "God is with us"

Amazing.

Since it is not up to your standards, perhaps you should just move along.....
I'm certain there would be no outcry of protesting your leaving.
You would be happier, we would be happier.... win, win.....

Just sayin'.....

My Brother: that's a bit harsh, isn't it?! I'm sure you don't mean it like that!

Hello again Butterfly, actually, I never think that one verse of Scripture "cancels" another verse of Scripture out, rather, I believe that we need to look at the Scriptures as a consistent whole and find out how to harmonize verses that, on their own/at first blush, may seem contradictory to us.

It was Jesus' parents, not Isaiah, who named Him, yes (and they clearly called Him Jesus, not Emmanuel, as per the angel's instructions to both Mary and Joseph).

Perhaps I am wrong however, and that should be easy enough for you to demonstrate to me by simply pointing out a verse in the NT where Mary, Joseph, the Apostles, and/or anyone else for that matter, calls Him "Emmanuel" instead of "Jesus" (because they surely would have done so if Emmanuel was actually His name, yes)!

There are also several places in the NT when He tells us plainly, "I am Jesus", or says, "I, Jesus...." as well places where people say to Him that they are looking for "Jesus" or for "Jesus the Nazarene" etc., and Jesus responds to them by saying, "I am He".

To the best of my knowledge there is nowhere in the Bible where anyone addresses the Lord Jesus by the name, "Emmanuel" instead, and/or where He claims that His name is "Emmanuel" (instead of "Jesus"). If there is such a place in the Bible, again, please point it out to me/us so that we can see it for ourselves!

Thank you

~Deuteronomy
p.s. - we know that the Lord continues to identify Himself as "Jesus" after His Resurrection and Ascension. If His name was actually "Emmanuel", then why do you think that He continued to use the name "Jesus" instead, even then

It wasn't intended to be harsh.... since he/she has been here, all he/she has done is make wide, sweeping statements about "truth", and then rails against anyone that dares to disagree. Then, he/she makes the statement that this website is not very "Christian"... at least not up to his/her standards.
I was merely offering a suggestion that would likely please everyone involved.
I'm just trying to help.... I'm willing to discuss any topic, and I'm willing to disagree... without all the histrionics and name calling. This person seems to have all the answers, and won't bridge any disagreement...

I'm new and I know he means every word.
He's mean. He insults people. He personally attacks them,he posts false accusations, and then wonders why his example and a few others here make a newly arrived Christian wonder at the atmosphere that kind of person generates, and is allowed to continue, in a place where Christians are suppose to chat together.
He not only meant every word but he's proud and unapologetic. Is he ever kind? Or is he always wicked?

Ask yourself this. Of all those new arrivals that post greetings here, how many stay ?

If the answer is, not that many, you might consider you have a problem.

I haven't read the whole thread, but:

Acts 17
31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
(NKJV)

If you had been here long enough, you would know that I am none of the thing you accuse me of.
Kindly show me where I personally "attacked" you?
Kindly show me the "false accusations" against you?
So, I'm "wicked" ? How amusing.
Let's have the proof of your silly accusations....
Perhaps you should look at the "reactions" to my posts here, for the past 6 years.... perhaps the problem here is not me, but you.

I've never caused anyone to leave.... there have been several that have been banned, but it was not because of me. I don't have the authority to do that, nor would I want it.
I DO have a tendency to call things the way I see them, and troublemakers and trolls are normally the recipients... I have had strong disagreements with a few folks on here, but we've managed to agree to disagree, and still be brothers.... I have seen nothing in your posts to indicate you would be willing to do that, since you have accused me of not even being a Christian.
Enough on this.....

No worries, Bro; May God Bless you always.

I really hope that you don't leave this group, my dear brother/sister.

Sometimes it's tough to understand the God of the Bible when nobody has ever taught Him to you. The following is a sermon about the Person of Christ and where much confusion has arisen from fictional books. I hope this helps.
This is why Christians find this topic offensive ma'am.
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Hello again WeAreAllOne, I meant to comment on this post of yours earlier but (obviously) failed to do so.

My answer to your question would have to be, "I don't know".

There are many on most Christian websites who (at least) claim to be Christians, but there are also those who declare themselves to be something else altogether, such as Jews, Deists, Baha'i, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Buddhists, Humanists, Agnostics, Atheists, and even the occasional witch or two (granted, this happens far more often on two of the other Christian forums that I post on, where posts from non-Christians, such as the aforementioned, are encouraged).

So, when someone doesn't tell us who/what they are, we have to ask, or guess.

I just jumped over to your profile page, and interestingly, I saw that you've declared your spiritual status to be "not Christian", yet you also claim to be "Saved" (and that, for your entire life), and also, in your statement above, you claim to "believe in the Lord Jesus". I would interested to hear more about how and from what you believe that you were saved, and how you can be BOTH a "believer" and a "non-Christian" at the same time, but that is definitely a conversation for a different time/different thread

~Deuteronomy

I haven't read through the entire thread, but I don't believe that anyone here is insisting that "Jesus can't do that" (is ~incapable~ of returning as a woman, that is). Rather, what they should (at the very least) be insisting upon is that He would NEVER do that. Why Because doing so would make Him a liar.

His Second Coming has been documented for us in great detail in several places in the Bible, and outside of the fact that He is still referred to as Jesus Christ/Son of Man, all of the pronouns that are used to speak of Him at His Second Coming (and beyond) continue to be He/His.

I will post 2-3 examples of this from the Scriptures below.

~Deuteronomy

One final thought, I believe that the opening phrase from a particular verse in the Bible has been quoted in this thread several times. The problem is, "God is not a man" (from Numbers 23:19) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with gender!

Rather, it has everything to do with our immutable (changeless) God/loving Abba in Whom we can place our complete trust, because unlike us (unlike men ~AND~ women, that is) God does not lie, so we can always have perfect assurance that whatever He says to us (ALL of the pronouncements and promises that He makes to us) will ALL come to pass (in the very way that He tells us that they will).

It is also interesting to point out that this verse (in context) actually speaks directly against the idea that was broached in the title of this thread (that Jesus might return to us in a different way than He told us that He would/in a different way than God's word tells us that He will). So again, Numbers 23:19 is a wonderful reminder for us that God, who cannot lie, is completely worthy of our trust

As the Book of Hebrews also reminds us, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever", so we should remain vigilant, never allowing ourselves to be "carried away by varied and strange teachings".. Hebrews 13:8-9a (because we know that such teachings are from the world, not from Him).

So, the opening to/sole purpose of Numbers 23:19 can be best understood in this way,


Blessings to all in Christ!!

~Deuteronomy

are you?

The bible wasn't written by a bunch of far left wackos. So I'm going to say no.

For that may we truly be thankful . . .amen