Censorship in the Church reaches all time high

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Richie85

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Users of Christian social media sites and Christian forums are reporting a noticeable increase in instances where a Christian brother or sister will exlude them from making a post. Statistically there is a spike in the "news" sections and a deterrance of Gospel related quotations and observations in exchange for things pertaining to man's understanding and perceptions.
 

maxwel

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Users of Christian social media sites and Christian forums are reporting a noticeable increase in instances where a Christian brother or sister will exlude them from making a post. Statistically there is a spike in the "news" sections and a deterrance of Gospel related quotations and observations in exchange for things pertaining to man's understanding and perceptions.
This is interesting.
Can you provide us with sources for these claims and statistics?
It would also be helpful if you could articulate which social media sites you're referring to, and which kinds of claims apply to each.


Thank you.

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Subhumanoidal

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Users of Christian social media sites and Christian forums are reporting a noticeable increase in instances where a Christian brother or sister will exlude them from making a post. Statistically there is a spike in the "news" sections and a deterrance of Gospel related quotations and observations in exchange for things pertaining to man's understanding and perceptions.
What social media sites?
Where are all these various reports going to that is collecting and observing this?
How are people being prevented from posting?
Where is this "spike" being noted?
How exactly are these things being "detered" from being said?
 

Richie85

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What social media sites?
Where are all these various reports going to that is collecting and observing this?
How are people being prevented from posting?
Where is this "spike" being noted?
How exactly are these things being "detered" from being said?
Just me sticking my foot in my mouth :)
 

Nehemiah6

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Users of Christian social media sites and Christian forums are reporting a noticeable increase in instances where a Christian brother or sister will exlude them from making a post
There's no question that certain "Christian" forums hate the truth. Therefore they will censor and ban those who present Bible truth. This is not something new, but perhaps it is on the increase. One would have to monitor those sites, and who has the time to waste on pointless endeavors? Thankfully that does not happen on Christian Chat, which means that a lot of bizarre nonsense gets posted. Which is fine. That's the point of free speech.
 

gb9

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There's no question that certain "Christian" forums hate the truth. Therefore they will censor and ban those who present Bible truth. This is not something new, but perhaps it is on the increase. One would have to monitor those sites, and who has the time to waste on pointless endeavors? Thankfully that does not happen on Christian Chat, which means that a lot of bizarre nonsense gets posted. Which is fine. That's the point of free speech.
yep, this site is great for free speech!!
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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There's no question that certain "Christian" forums hate the truth. Therefore they will censor and ban those who present Bible truth. This is not something new, but perhaps it is on the increase. One would have to monitor those sites, and who has the time to waste on pointless endeavors? Thankfully that does not happen on Christian Chat, which means that a lot of bizarre nonsense gets posted. Which is fine. That's the point of free speech.

I'd like to echo @maxwel and @Subhumanoidal - Where are you and the OP getting their information from? From your own heads or an actual news source? Even the OP has admitted that they were just sticking their own foot in their mouth.

 

Flannery

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It is hard to know whether someone is really Christian or not when you're only on the internet and not face to face. The site bills itself as social, and Christian churches also have socials. Being social is just being friendly with other members of the same birds of a feather as you. It's probably hard to run a board like this, prayer meeting is historically so personal and private that you can't put it on a BBS. I mean, I really need more of a lead in segue of some kind to meet people to openly actually study pages with too, but I often or usually hit a wall because of the e-shift factor before I get anywhere.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'd like to echo @maxwel and @Subhumanoidal - Where are you and the OP getting their information from? From your own heads or an actual news source? Even the OP has admitted that they were just sticking their own foot in their mouth.
I said "perhaps" there is an increase. I also said no one should waste their time monitoring those forums. And I have first-hand experience about censorship and banning on certain "Christian" forums.
 

ZNP

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Hear the tale of the Apostate church

The curtain opens to a desolate church, once bustling with life, but now empty and silent. A lone figure stands in the center, looking out at the empty pews.

How doth the church sit solitary, That was full of people! She is become as a widow, That was great among the nations! She that was a princess among the provinces Is become tributary!

The figure bows their head in sorrow, as the audience hears the weeping and wailing of the city's inhabitants. Gang violence, children killed in the streets, they see the poor, the single mothers, and the rich corrupt officials abusing the people.

She weepeth sore in the night, And her tears are on her cheeks; The church cut deals, looked the other way, took money in exchange for not speaking on sin or hell. Among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: All her friends have dealt treacherously with her; They are become her enemies.

The figure turns to look at the audience, pleading with them to hear the tale of the apostate church.

She is gone into captivity because of affliction, And because of great servitude; She dwelleth among the nations, She findeth no rest; All her persecutors overtook her within the streets. If she speaks at the school board meeting she is labeled a terrorist, if she protests abortion the SWAT team breaks her door down, if she stays open during the pandemic she is hauled away in chains.

The figure's voice rises with the lament of the city's people.

The ways of Zion do mourn, Because none come to the solemn assembly; All her gates are desolate, Her priests do sigh: Her members are afflicted, And she herself is in bitterness.

The figure falls to their knees in anguish as the audience hears the taunts of the city's enemies. Accusing her of hate speech.

Her adversaries are become the head, Her enemies prosper; For Jehovah hath afflicted her For the multitude of her transgressions: Her young children are gone into captivity Before the adversary. The public school teachers groom them to become sexually deviant and to despise their parents.

The figure stands again, their voice filled with grief as they speak of the city's downfall.

And from the daughter of Zion all her majesty is departed: Her princes are become like harts that find no pasture, And they are gone without strength before the pursuer.

The figure looks out at the audience once more, calling out to them to remember the city's former glory when the church was at the center of life.

The church that was a light upon a hill remembered in the days of her affliction And of her miseries all her pleasant things That were from the days of old when she was the light and the salt. She remembers when she bound up the wounds, poured in oil and wine, yet when her people fell into the hand of the adversary, none do help her, The adversaries saw her, they did mock at her desolations.

The figure's voice breaks with sorrow as they speak of the apostate church's sin.

Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; Therefore she is become as an unclean thing; All that honored her despise her, Because they have seen her nakedness: Yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward. In her arrogance she despised the word of God to make friends with the world.

The figure falls to their knees once more, calling out to the Lord for help.

Behold, O Lord Jesus, my affliction; For the enemy hath magnified himself.

The curtain falls as the audience is left with the haunting sound of the figure's voice echoing through the empty sanctuary.
 

ZNP

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#11
The smoke rises after the rapture

The church lies in ruins, and the people of Jerusalem mourn for their loss. The prophet weeps as he sees the devastation and destruction wrought by the Lord's anger. The daughter of Zion is covered with a cloud, and the Lord has cast down the beauty of Israel from heaven. The Lord has not remembered his footstool in the day of his anger, and he has swallowed up all the cities of the US without pity.

The strongholds of the apostate church that had once boasted great things have been thrown down in the Lord's wrath, and the US and its princes have been profaned. The horn of Israel, their strength and influence, has been cut off in fierce anger, and the Lord has burned up the nominal chrisitians like a flaming fire that devours all around it.

The Lord has bent his bow like an enemy and stood with his right hand as an adversary, slaying all that were pleasant to the eye. In the tent of the apostate church, he has poured out his wrath like fire. The Lord has become an enemy and has swallowed up the US, destroying all her palaces and strongholds. He has multiplied mourning and lamentation in the denominations.

The Lord has violently taken away his tabernacle, destroying his place of assembly. Looters and rioters burn down the meeting halls. He has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion and has despised in the indignation of his anger the President and the priest. The Lord has cast off his altar and abhorred his sanctuary, giving up the walls of her palaces to the enemy. They have made a noise in the house of Lord, as in the day of a solemn assembly.

The Lord has purposed to destroy the wall of the apostate church, stretching out the line and not withdrawing his hand from destroying. He has made the rampart and wall to lament, and they languish together. The gates of the cities are sunk into the ground, and the bars are destroyed and broken. The felons flood the streets. The king and the princes are among the nations where the law is not, and the prophets find no vision from Jehovah.

The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground in silence, casting dust upon their heads and girding themselves with sackcloth. The christians hang down their heads to the ground. The prophet's eyes fail with tears, his heart is troubled, and his liver is poured upon the earth because of the destruction of the church. The young children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city, and they ask their mothers where the grain and wine are. The cities fall into the hands of roving gangs.

The prophet testifies to the denominations, asking what he shall liken to her that he may comfort her. Her breach is great like the sea, and who can heal her? Her prophets have seen false and foolish visions for her and have not uncovered her iniquity to bring back her captivity. Instead, they have seen false oracles and causes of banishment for her.

All who pass by clap their hands at her, hissing and wagging their heads and saying, "Is this the USA that men called The perfection of beauty, The joy of the whole earth?" All her enemies have opened their mouth wide against her, hissing and gnashing their teeth, saying that they have swallowed her up. This is the day they looked for, and they have seen it.

The Lord has done that which he purposed, fulfilling his word that he commanded in the days of old. He has thrown down without pity and caused the enemy to rejoice over her, exalting the horn of the globalists and one world religion. The people cry out to the Lord, asking for tears to run down like a river day and night and giving themselves no respite. They lift up their hands toward him for the life of their young children who faint for hunger at the head of every street.

See, O Lord, and behold to whom thou hast done thus! Shall the women eat their fruit, the children that are dandled in the hands? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord? Every day the news is filled with violent gangs murdering Christians in the churches and even stories of cannibalism as people starve to death.

The youth and the old man lie on the ground in the streets; My virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword: Thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast slaughtered, and not pitied. The streets are filled with dead bodies.

Thou hast called, as in the day of a solemn assembly, my terrors on every side; And there was none that escaped or remained in the day of Jehovah’s anger: Those that I have dandled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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#12
I said "perhaps" there is an increase. I also said no one should waste their time monitoring those forums. And I have first-hand experience about censorship and banning on certain "Christian" forums.

I'd like to know which forums these are and to point out threads where this happened as examples. I've recently joined two other forums but I'd like to avoid them if possible.

 

ZNP

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I'd like to know which forums these are and to point out threads where this happened as examples. I've recently joined two other forums but I'd like to avoid them if possible.

I left two other Christian forums due to being censored without violating any rules. I do not wish to "bad mouth" them. Instead, I would encourage you and others to speak, share the word, and when they no longer welcome you on their forum shake off the dust as a testimony against them. I had people PM me asking what happened, I told them and also explained that was why I was going to other forums.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'd like to know which forums these are and to point out threads where this happened as examples. I've recently joined two other forums but I'd like to avoid them if possible.
Sorry. I have long since put them out of my mind. Can't be wasting time on naysayers. But you can see first hand by posting Bible truth and exposing lies as to what happens next.
 

Richie85

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Allow me to clear this up, I wrote the real news post about Jesus coming back, with the shout of an archangel and the raising of the dead, for hope in eternal life amidst a lot of negative "news",
And i didnt think it was allowed to be posted.
So I sinned and made a mock article next about cencorship. When i realized it actually was, I said, "I put my foot in my mouth" but it didnt get the point across. Have a nice day folks, sorry I didnt respond sooner.
 

Richie85

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The smoke rises after the rapture

The church lies in ruins, and the people of Jerusalem mourn for their loss. The prophet weeps as he sees the devastation and destruction wrought by the Lord's anger. The daughter of Zion is covered with a cloud, and the Lord has cast down the beauty of Israel from heaven. The Lord has not remembered his footstool in the day of his anger, and he has swallowed up all the cities of the US without pity.

The strongholds of the apostate church that had once boasted great things have been thrown down in the Lord's wrath, and the US and its princes have been profaned. The horn of Israel, their strength and influence, has been cut off in fierce anger, and the Lord has burned up the nominal chrisitians like a flaming fire that devours all around it.

The Lord has bent his bow like an enemy and stood with his right hand as an adversary, slaying all that were pleasant to the eye. In the tent of the apostate church, he has poured out his wrath like fire. The Lord has become an enemy and has swallowed up the US, destroying all her palaces and strongholds. He has multiplied mourning and lamentation in the denominations.

The Lord has violently taken away his tabernacle, destroying his place of assembly. Looters and rioters burn down the meeting halls. He has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion and has despised in the indignation of his anger the President and the priest. The Lord has cast off his altar and abhorred his sanctuary, giving up the walls of her palaces to the enemy. They have made a noise in the house of Lord, as in the day of a solemn assembly.

The Lord has purposed to destroy the wall of the apostate church, stretching out the line and not withdrawing his hand from destroying. He has made the rampart and wall to lament, and they languish together. The gates of the cities are sunk into the ground, and the bars are destroyed and broken. The felons flood the streets. The king and the princes are among the nations where the law is not, and the prophets find no vision from Jehovah.

The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground in silence, casting dust upon their heads and girding themselves with sackcloth. The christians hang down their heads to the ground. The prophet's eyes fail with tears, his heart is troubled, and his liver is poured upon the earth because of the destruction of the church. The young children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city, and they ask their mothers where the grain and wine are. The cities fall into the hands of roving gangs.

The prophet testifies to the denominations, asking what he shall liken to her that he may comfort her. Her breach is great like the sea, and who can heal her? Her prophets have seen false and foolish visions for her and have not uncovered her iniquity to bring back her captivity. Instead, they have seen false oracles and causes of banishment for her.

All who pass by clap their hands at her, hissing and wagging their heads and saying, "Is this the USA that men called The perfection of beauty, The joy of the whole earth?" All her enemies have opened their mouth wide against her, hissing and gnashing their teeth, saying that they have swallowed her up. This is the day they looked for, and they have seen it.The Lord has done that which he purposed, fulfilling his word that he commanded in the days of old. He has thrown down without pity and caused the enemy to rejoice over her, exalting the horn of the globalists and one world religion. The people cry out to the Lord, asking for tears to run down like a river day and night and giving themselves no respite. They lift up their hands toward him for the life of their young children who faint for hunger at the head of every street.See, O Lord, and behold to whom thou hast done thus! Shall the women eat their fruit, the children that are dandled in the hands? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord? Every day the news is filled with violent gangs murdering Christians in the churches and even stories of cannibalism as people starve to death.The youth and the old man lie on the ground in the streets; My virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword: Thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast slaughtered, and not pitied. The streets are filled with dead bodies.Thou hast called, as in the day of a solemn assembly, my terrors on every side; And there was none that escaped or remained in the day of Jehovah’s anger: Those that I have dandled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.

26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.

1 Behold, the Lord makes the earth empty
and makes it waste,
Distorts its surface
And scatters abroad its inhabitants.
2 And it shall be:
As with the people, so with the priest;
As with the servant, so with his master;
As with the maid, so with her mistress;
As with the buyer, so with the seller;
As with the lender, so with the borrower;
As with the creditor, so with the debtor.
3 The land shall be entirely emptied and utterly plundered,
For the Lord has spoken this word.
4 The earth mourns and fades away,
The world languishes and fades away;
The haughty[a] people of the earth languish.
5 The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants,
Because they have transgressed the laws,
Changed the ordinance,
Broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore the curse has devoured the earth,
And those who dwell in it are [b]desolate.
Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned,
And few men are left.
7 The new wine fails, the vine languishes,
All the merry-hearted sigh.
8 The mirth of the tambourine ceases,
The noise of the jubilant ends,
The joy of the harp ceases.
9 They shall not drink wine with a song;
Strong drink is bitter to those who drink it.
10 The city of confusion is broken down;
Every house is shut up, so that none may go in.
11 There is a cry for wine in the streets,
All joy is darkened,
The mirth of the land is gone.
12 In the city desolation is left,
And the gate is stricken with destruction.
13 When it shall be thus in the midst of the land among the people,
It shall be like the shaking of an olive tree,
Like the gleaning of grapes when the vintage is done.
14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing;
For the majesty of the Lord
They shall cry aloud from the sea.
15 Therefore glorify the Lord in the dawning light,
The name of the Lord God of Israel in the coastlands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we have heard songs:
“Glory to the righteous!”
But I said, [c]“I am ruined, ruined!
Woe to me!
The treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously,
Indeed, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.”
17 Fear and the pit and the snare
Are upon you, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall be
That he who flees from the noise of the fear
Shall fall into the pit,
And he who comes up from the midst of the pit
Shall be [d]caught in the snare;
For the windows from on high are open,
And the foundations of the earth are shaken.
19 The earth is violently broken,
The earth is split open,
The earth is shaken exceedingly.
20 The earth shall reel[e] to and fro like a drunkard,
And shall totter like a hut;
Its transgression shall be heavy upon it,
And it will fall, and not rise again.
21 It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord will punish on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
22 They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the [f]pit,
And will be shut up in the prison;
After many days they will be punished.
23 Then the moon will be disgraced
And the sun ashamed;
For the Lord of hosts will reign
On Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
And before His elders, gloriously
 

Richie85

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The smoke rises after the rapture

The church lies in ruins, and the people of Jerusalem mourn for their loss. The prophet weeps as he sees the devastation and destruction wrought by the Lord's anger. The daughter of Zion is covered with a cloud, and the Lord has cast down the beauty of Israel from heaven. The Lord has not remembered his footstool in the day of his anger, and he has swallowed up all the cities of the US without pity.

The strongholds of the apostate church that had once boasted great things have been thrown down in the Lord's wrath, and the US and its princes have been profaned. The horn of Israel, their strength and influence, has been cut off in fierce anger, and the Lord has burned up the nominal chrisitians like a flaming fire that devours all around it.

The Lord has bent his bow like an enemy and stood with his right hand as an adversary, slaying all that were pleasant to the eye. In the tent of the apostate church, he has poured out his wrath like fire. The Lord has become an enemy and has swallowed up the US, destroying all her palaces and strongholds. He has multiplied mourning and lamentation in the denominations.

The Lord has violently taken away his tabernacle, destroying his place of assembly. Looters and rioters burn down the meeting halls. He has caused solemn assembly and Sabbath to be forgotten in Zion and has despised in the indignation of his anger the President and the priest. The Lord has cast off his altar and abhorred his sanctuary, giving up the walls of her palaces to the enemy. They have made a noise in the house of Lord, as in the day of a solemn assembly.

The Lord has purposed to destroy the wall of the apostate church, stretching out the line and not withdrawing his hand from destroying. He has made the rampart and wall to lament, and they languish together. The gates of the cities are sunk into the ground, and the bars are destroyed and broken. The felons flood the streets. The king and the princes are among the nations where the law is not, and the prophets find no vision from Jehovah.

The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground in silence, casting dust upon their heads and girding themselves with sackcloth. The christians hang down their heads to the ground. The prophet's eyes fail with tears, his heart is troubled, and his liver is poured upon the earth because of the destruction of the church. The young children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city, and they ask their mothers where the grain and wine are. The cities fall into the hands of roving gangs.

The prophet testifies to the denominations, asking what he shall liken to her that he may comfort her. Her breach is great like the sea, and who can heal her? Her prophets have seen false and foolish visions for her and have not uncovered her iniquity to bring back her captivity. Instead, they have seen false oracles and causes of banishment for her.

All who pass by clap their hands at her, hissing and wagging their heads and saying, "Is this the USA that men called The perfection of beauty, The joy of the whole earth?" All her enemies have opened their mouth wide against her, hissing and gnashing their teeth, saying that they have swallowed her up. This is the day they looked for, and they have seen it.

The Lord has done that which he purposed, fulfilling his word that he commanded in the days of old. He has thrown down without pity and caused the enemy to rejoice over her, exalting the horn of the globalists and one world religion. The people cry out to the Lord, asking for tears to run down like a river day and night and giving themselves no respite. They lift up their hands toward him for the life of their young children who faint for hunger at the head of every street.

See, O Lord, and behold to whom thou hast done thus! Shall the women eat their fruit, the children that are dandled in the hands? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord? Every day the news is filled with violent gangs murdering Christians in the churches and even stories of cannibalism as people starve to death.

The youth and the old man lie on the ground in the streets; My virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword: Thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast slaughtered, and not pitied. The streets are filled with dead bodies.

Thou hast called, as in the day of a solemn assembly, my terrors on every side; And there was none that escaped or remained in the day of Jehovah’s anger: Those that I have dandled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.


Not just the USA
 

ZNP

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My understanding is that the judgement on the Great Babylon described in Revelation 18 takes place at the same time as the rapture, I was not referring to the entire 7 years of tribulation, but just the same day as the rapture (24 hour period).
 

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#19
on this forum, new post threads are moderated before they can go live rather than anyone putting up anything instantly its to stop trolls, spam and robots flooding the forum.

I have never had a problem posting any new threads here and I dont mind them being vetted before they go up and maybe have to wait at the most a few hours or a day before they do go live.

I wouldnt post 'fake news' on a news forum though, though most people are savvy enough to call it out or ignore it if it is fake.

If you are going for satire its best to post in the appropriate forum rather than try to attack the hand that feeds you.

The gospel or good news is good for anyone at any time though. We do need to be reminded that Jesus coming is good news for everyone even if the story is now over 2000 years old. Because new believers are born again every day.
 

ZNP

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I have never had a problem posting any new threads here and I dont mind them being vetted before they go up and maybe have to wait at the most a few hours or a day before they do go live.
Once I had a new thread put into a different heading and I had to search for it. So I would suggest that if you do post a new thread keep an eye out under "new threads posted" to find it as soon as they do allow it to go public.