Works of the Law

Why do you believe Paul taught, "Not by Works, but by Grace", when Jesus Christ didn't?
Why do you believe Pauls teachings on "Grace", are foundational teachings, when in the Gospel of Christ, Jesus never even said the word?

Its very important, especially in these days of globally excepted immorality, for all believers to discernibly understand why Paul taught it.

Jesus did teach grace, not by using the term, but in action and in principle.

Grace is a Person --not a word --Jesus Is Grace -and He is truth -----Grace presented itself in Jesus ------He didn't have to used the word Grace cause He is Grace -------



Jesus came to Teach a New Gospel -----which is the Gospel of Grace ------The Gospel of Jesus Christ ----who is Grace and truth

Jesus came under the Old Testament Laws all 613 of them ----and He kept them all -----the Law Required the people to keep them so this was their work to keep the laws ---all 613 of them not just the 10 ------no man could keep the laws ---------so Jesus never had to talk about works as He came to fulfill the works that is required to fulfil the Laws ----He came to teach and Preach that there was a better Covenant coming -----

The New Covenant of Himself ---who is full of Grace ------who took what we all deserve -----

Jesus did teach it. remember, Paul's word is the inspired word of God. ONLY those books that were inspired by the Holy Spirit made it into the Bible. (2nd Timothy 3:16,17 & 2nd Peter 1;20,21.

Friend the gospel message is full of grace in action.
Jesus came to this world to save not to condemn to a people who were not worthy to be saved.
For all have sinned and were ripe for judgement.
Jesus fulfilled all that was required not for himself but for us. And for the glory that was set before him...he endured the cross.
The father gave his only son for that purpose. That all should repent and believe.
Gods Riches At Christ Expence.
The work of the father is to beleive the son.

Amen!
I gonna do the happy dance.

Have you ever heard of Scrubbing Bubbles? You just spray them on and they work to loosen and lift bathtub grime. Their motto is...we do the work, so you don't have to...

This is what the grace of God in the Lord Jesus Christ has done for us. He has done the work so we don't have to...actually, that we couldn't do.

Your point is well made that holiness and purity is often in short supply. But it is not due to grace. It is due to easy believism. There is too much confession and too little conversion; too much profession apart from true possession.

Where did Jesus ever say that salvation was by good works or works of the Law?

The Law was added because of transgressions.

Jesus ministered while the Law was still in effect.

"Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."

Even though Jesus operated in a different economy than the Law, He was still bound, as a man, to the Law's statutes. Now, the wages of sin is death. Yet, Jesus had no sin and still death took Him. This was a violation of the limit of death. Therefore, God the Father raised Him to life, demonstrating that even death has no power over Christ. This is how He disarmed the principalities publicly and triumphed over them.

15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.

Now, in covenant principles, the covenant remains in effect as long as the man is alive. Once he is dead, the covenant no longer has jurisdiction over the life of the man.

When Jesus died, he did so for the benefit of all men: He took on the the rightful punishment for the sins of men even though He had no sin Himself:

"..but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself."

It was His death that put an end to the power and curse of the Law. However, He didn't just die Himself, He died for the sins of men. Therefore, the jurisdiction of the covenant of Law ended not just for Jesus but for all men who would likewise identify in His death.

"And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross."

The life given by the Father to Christ is also promised to all who identify in Him: a life not under the curse of the Law but an eternal life in God.

Paul began his preaching from this point. Paul knew, even as a Jew, that the Law no longer directed his steps, the Spirit of God did. And this Spirit was available to Paul because he identified himself in the One who overcame death and sin: Christ.

" if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” "

To answer the OP, John says the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

That was A TEST. Not a declaration of how one may obtain eternal life! No one can keep the commandments perfectly.

The corollary here is John 10:10...I have come to bring life...salvation...and that more abundantly...the life of God hid in Christ. To live in the fulness of the life that Jesus has provided, obedience is a must. The one Who made us lives in us obediently so that we live, but not us, Christ lives within us. Hence, to live abundantly is to have Christ living in us in full obedience.

Salvation and life comes by grace. The fulness of that life is found in obedience.

just a another weak attempt to make Paul contradict Jesus.

which of course he did not....

Consider almost the entire book of John and then compare with Pauls letters... No contradiction

Well here is how I see it, the main core of the issue to me is the one little phrase we made him our savior but not our Lord.. This is not a new concept but when taken to heart you realize the gravity that phrase holds.

Grace does not mean he is a cloud we can fall on he firstly demands our obedience that is the main and powerful theme in scripture. He also a king with a kingship that follows with that he is Lor of Lords so yes we will mess up but the first important step is to make him our Lord and as Lord you don't mess around with his decrees or what he says your grace is in him and he is all the good things spoken of and his grace is a wonderful thing on it's own but obedience is the fruit of a follower of God but to obey out of reverence for him as Lord is entirely different it is something that you do out of actual reverence to him not simply to obey but you know the fear of the Lord that is something I got to feel first hand many think of it as bad and scary and while yes it is very intense not scary but you certaintly don't dare to look up at him in that moment this presence demands respect as him being the true king it is actually so intense that your spirit kind of speaks on it's own and the words I am under your feet just come out.

Not in a bad way but you place yourself there that is how much you suddenly revere respect and adorn him./ This experience was something to behold but the importance of it is the respect and reverence one gets from considering these thing and how it isn't about what grace is or works or mere obedience it is about him as king we obey willing for a reason and anyone who respects him won't use grace to make excuses I would love to see someone do something like that before his throne in his presence as God all mighty as king and Lord of all trust me your going to be humbled and put in your place you will know the fear of the Lord but not in a fun way

I see it as a matter of post-resurrection vs pre-resurrection. Simple as. Jesus lived under the law as the Bible states

I didn't say, he didn't teach Grace..,I said he never used the word Grace. But I can see where you drew that conclusion. Jesus did teach Grace....But where did you find his teachings on Grace?

You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.
Why?
Because your definition creates a Faith without proof of God. When God says he will reveal himself to those who seek him....and when he does, that will be the proof one needs to never question that he is one true God.
There are many Faiths in the world.... all created without any proof of that their Gods even exist, with the exception of Christianity. But many teachers, because of the Grace teachings being taught in the church, do not create this separation from these false Gods. And many people, who once went to church, have turned to these false Gods because of these Grace teachings which are misunderstood by our church teachers.

Jesus did teach Grace, but where did Jesus teach Grace.... in the context that they say Paul taught Grace?

Called me Friend...I like that!!

But if you believe in the Son, wouldn't you do what he tells you to do to show you believe in him?
If you don't do what he tells you to do, wouldn't this show that you don't believe in the Son?
If you must do what he tells you to do to show you believe, and you must believe in the Son to be saved, wouldn't this mean you must keep the Lords commandments...else you will not be saved??