Did the Angel Gabriel announce the Name Yeshua or Jesus?

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Walter

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“And you shall call his name…” announced the angel Gabriel, “Jesus”.
No he didn’t. He said “Yeshua”. But then again, Gabriel wasn’t really called Gabriel either – in Hebrew it sounds different: “Gav-ree-el”. Mighty one of the Lord. But at least Gabriel sounds a BIT like Gav-ree-el. It’s at least recognisable! How in the world did Yeshua, the actual Hebrew name for our Lord and Messiah, turn into Jesus? It sounds nothing like Yeshua! And does it really matter what we call him?

HOW DID WE END UP CALLING YESHUA JESUS?
The name “Jesus” comes from the Greek way of expressing his name: Ἰησοῦς, which is pronounced “Yay-soos”. While we have an English version of the Hebrew name for Gabriel, we seem to have ended up with an English version of the Greek version of the Hebrew name for our Messiah, that doesn’t even sound close anymore. It makes him all the less recognisable to his Jewish brethren. Jesus just sounds so… gentile! But when Jewish people hear his name in Hebrew, quite often the lights go on. Ah! Yeshua! The name Yeshua was known and used in Jewish history – you can find men called Yeshua in the roll calls of teams serving in the temple (1 Chronicles 24:11, 2 Chronicles 31:15, Ezra 2:2,6,36). It’s a version of Joshua, and it means “salvation”. This makes much more sense to Jewish ears.

HOW JESUS IS KNOWN AND WHAT HE IS CALLED IN ISRAEL
Sadly, for many long years among Hebrew-speaking Jewish people, Yeshua has been known as “Yeshu”, which is an acronym for a curse: “yimakh shemo ve zikhro” which means, “May his name and memory be obliterated”. So much suffering and persecution has been inflicted upon Jewish people in the name of Yeshua that his very name has become a stumbling block and offense, and now he is often considered one of the enemies of the Jewish people. This word “Yeshu” is made of three Hebrew letters – Y-Sh-U (ישו), but it is missing the last letter of his name – the “Ah” sound. This last letter is called an “Ayin” (ע), which, rather interestingly, means “eye”. It’s almost as if without the “ayin” they cannot see, but when the “ayin” is added, sight comes to the blind.

Yeshua is commonly called Yeshu here in Israel, but there are some academics who call him Yeshua, and funnily enough, one particularly extremist group who sprayed anti-Messianic graffiti on a church, declaring that Yeshua was a monkey, actually spelled his name correctly! But sadly he is often referred to as Yeshu haNotzri, which means “curses on Jesus-the-Christian”. In Israel, he is usually seen as gentile, Christian, and ‘other’. But Jesus wasn’t a Christian – he wasn’t a Christ follower – he was Christ himself! The Jewish Messiah! Jesus wasn’t a Christian, Mary wasn’t a Catholic, and John wasn’t a Baptist: They were all Jewish! While “Notzri” is the Hebrew word for “Christian”, it actually means one from Nazareth (Natzeret in Hebrew). It would be more accurate to say Yeshua me Natzeret – Yeshua from Nazareth. It’s close, but worlds away in Israeli perception. Christ is the Greek word for Messiah, so Jesus Christ really means Yeshua the Messiah.

I remember being in a class on the New Testament at university here in Israel which was taught by someone who did not believe in it one iota – it was simply considered an important book which has shaped western civilisation. When students asked about what “Christ” meant (was it his surname?) the professor explained that it was the Greek word for Messiah. To my delight, she wrote on the board (in Hebrew, to a class full of Israeli students):

JESUS = YESHUA = CHRIST = MESSIAH
This is not well understood here in Israel, but slowly, the lights are going on as more and more people understand that Jesus Christ is not a foreign personality of a pagan religion, but Yeshua, salvation, is the Jewish Messiah from Nazareth in Israel, the one prophesied in the Hebrew Bible. “And you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” (Matthew 1:21).

WHAT SHOULD WE CALL HIM THEN?
So now to the question, having established his real, Hebrew name, Yeshua – should we cease to call him Jesus?

It is true that his mother and friends called him Yeshua rather than Jesus, but if you know him as Jesus, does he mind that? Is it incorrect to call him Jesus? There are some who would argue till they’re blue in the face that it is critical to call him Yeshua and not Jesus, but Yeshua’s coming was also God’s time to take salvation to the gentiles. I believe that it was no accident that his name was disseminated in the international lingua-franca of the day: Greek. It was to go far and wide, to every nation on earth.​
God was now opening up the way to all the peoples of the earth to come to him. If you relate to him by his name Jesus, then don’t let it be a burden to you to change to Yeshua if you don’t feel the need to. He knows his sheep, and his sheep know his voice. His name has gone out to the nations in various versions of the Greek “Yay-soos”, but now, back here in his birth-place, Israel, people are starting to discover Yeshua their Jewish Messiah.

YESHUA WILL BE RECOGNISED AGAIN BY HIS BROTHERS
Just as Joseph was unrecognisable to his brothers dressed in foreign Egyptian garb and speaking a strange language when they came for help, Yeshua has been out among the gentiles, bringing salvation, and now appears to be shrouded in gentile terms and culture. It has become hard for his Jewish brothers and sisters to recognise him as one of the tribe.

Let’s remember what happened to Joseph and his brothers in Genesis 45:1-5:

“…Joseph made himself known to his brothers. And he wept aloud, so that the Egyptians heard it, and the household of Pharaoh heard it. And Joseph said to his brothers, “I am Joseph! Is my father still alive?” But his brothers could not answer him, for they were dismayed at his presence. So Joseph said to his brothers, “Come near to me, please.” And they came near. And he said, “I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt. And now do not be distressed or angry with yourselves because you sold me here, for God sent me before you to preserve life.”

Joseph was a foreshadowing of the Messiah – sold for 20 silver coins as Yeshua was betrayed for 30, suffering at the hands of, and on behalf of, his brothers, and yet procuring salvation both for his family and a whole lot of other gentiles besides. We know that there will be a time when this revelation will come to the Jewish people en-masse too, as God promises in Zechariah 12:10;

“I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn”.

This has not yet happened, but when it does, there will be a lot of weeping both in horror (what have we done?) but also joy, as there was with Joseph and his brothers. They will embrace their Jewish brother, Yeshua, the promised Messiah. And the joy of reconciliation and family reunion will be mutual, for God has profited all those years of rejection for the benefit and salvation of the whole world.

“I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved… they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all. Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!” (Romans 11:25-33)

Did the Angel Gabriel announce the Name Yeshua or Jesus?

Love, Walter and Debbie
 

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And you shall call his name…” announced the angel Gabriel, “Jesus”. No he didn’t. He said “Yeshua”.
And you would know! Since the New Testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew, JESUS is the correct equivalent of the Greek word Ἰησοῦς or "Iesous". And if we want to be really picky, then the Hebrew word is יְהוֹשׁוּעַ or YEHOSHUA (translated as Joshua) not YESHUA!

Now the real issue is this. You are trying to downgrade the FACT that the whole world has heard about JESUS but only a handful of Hebrew roots promoters have heard of YESHUA (which should be YEHOSHUA). So this is simply an attempt to stir the pot rather than proclaim that THE LORD JESUS CHRIST is the Savior of the world.

Now you will need to honestly answer this question: "Is Jesus GOD or is He less than GOD?"
 

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I was never Jewish so I'm going to call the Lord, Jesus. He's never ignored me when I call out to Him by that name, and never reprimanded me for calling Him as such.

You can call Him by His Jewish name if you wish and I won't stop or shame you for it.

 

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And you would know! Since the New Testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew, JESUS is the correct equivalent of the Greek word Ἰησοῦς or "Iesous". And if we want to be really picky, then the Hebrew word is יְהוֹשׁוּעַ or YEHOSHUA (translated as Joshua) not YESHUA!

Now the real issue is this. You are trying to downgrade the FACT that the whole world has heard about JESUS but only a handful of Hebrew roots promoters have heard of YESHUA (which should be YEHOSHUA). So this is simply an attempt to stir the pot rather than proclaim that THE LORD JESUS CHRIST is the Savior of the world.

Now you will need to honestly answer this question: "Is Jesus GOD or is He less than GOD?"
I'm not what you are saying.
 

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The word , name, has evolved from Hebrew. It actually may be more appropriately said to be the word, title, for all names were attributes of the person, either desired or foretold. Yeshua is not a translation, no, it is a transliteration from the Hebrew.

Yeshua may be completely translated as the anointed of the One Who Is (Yahweh.) This gives all reason and understanding to the announcement of Gabriel when he proclaimed that He shouldd be called Yeshua for He shall sae His people.. His people are all who believe Him and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit is the only name, of the three Persons,Which is translated completely. Do not believe me, look all of this up in your best possible study sources.
 

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The word , name, has evolved from Hebrew. It actually may be more appropriately said to be the word, title, for all names were attributes of the person, either desired or foretold. Yeshua is not a translation, no, it is a transliteration from the Hebrew.

Yeshua may be completely translated as the anointed of the One Who Is (Yahweh.) This gives all reason and understanding to the announcement of Gabriel when he proclaimed that He shouldd be called Yeshua for He shall sae His people.. His people are all who believe Him and are sealed by the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit is the only name, of the three Persons,Which is translated completely. Do not believe me, look all of this up in your best possible study sources.
Thank you.

Walter
 

JaumeJ

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Thank you.

Walter
Something to consider, Jesus, iesus, yesu, and all names of Jesus today are incomplete transliterations from progressive stages and languages of man. In other words, they are simply osunded out for the Hebrew words comprising the name (title) of our Lord.
 
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What is the basis of His Name ending in Weh? What does Weh mean? What other Hebrew words use Weh?
 

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I was never Jewish so I'm going to call the Lord, Jesus. He's never ignored me when I call out to Him by that name, and never reprimanded me for calling Him as such.

You can call Him by His Jewish name if you wish and I won't stop or shame you for it.

Amen!
You would want to know that the name Jesus came to us from the Greek, Iesous. If I remember correctly, Latin simply dropped the "o". When the "J" entered our language, That evolved over time to our current Jesus.

There are over 5,000 copies and potions of the New Testament and they were not written in Hebrew. The letters and gospels were written and circulated in the common language of Greek. They did not say Yeshua or variations of that.
We are right with God to call His Son Jesus.
 
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Please explain saying Yeshua means anointed and provide Scripture references. Thanks
 
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If Yod Hey Vav Hey are the letters in Scripture for His Name, how does the Vav Hey become Weh? What other Hebrew words that have the Vav Hey combination that are pronounced as Weh?
 

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Again, Yahweh is also a transliteration of yod hay vav hay. The pronunciation as evolved over the centuries to what we now say in English.

I consider and opinionate that it is the gerund form of the Hebrew verb to b, that is akin to the English gerund,being. However unlike the infinitive, to be, it is an active verb. In otherwords when our Maker says, "I Am," it means I "will to be," self existing.
 
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Again, Yahweh is also a transliteration of yod hay vav hay. The pronunciation as evolved over the centuries to what we now say in English.

I consider and opinionate that it is the gerund form of the Hebrew verb to b, that is akin to the English gerund,being. However unlike the infinitive, to be, it is an active verb. In otherwords when our Maker says, "I Am," it means I "will to be," self existing.
Do you know other Hebrew words that have the Vav Hay combination that are pronounced as Weh?
 

JaumeJ

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Do you know other Hebrew words that have the Vav Hay combination that are pronounced as Weh?
These transliterations are just that, trans literations. They are subject of the languages into which they are transliterated and oft time have nothing to do with the original language. I have read the Word in Hebrew and even there the syllable Yah, is differentiated according to the word and accent employed. I cannot change this. As for your question, I do not think of any off hand but my study was quite a while ago, and at 79 I am not always remembering all details, but what I do, I try to share.
 
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Hello,
The problem with this whole thing is the COMMON people spoke GREEK Koine the scriptures were written in Greek so at the time of JESUS Birth he would have been given a GREEK name.... IASOUS* TRANSLITERATED JESUS... The Jewish Elite spoke Hebrew as a means to elevate their status and we know that Jesus spoke many languages but the country as a whole including Jesus Earthly Family would have definitely spoke Greek....so the whole Yeshua debate is NULL....
THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS,
Clarence
 

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Hello,
The problem with this whole thing is the COMMON people spoke GREEK Koine the scriptures were written in Greek so at the time of JESUS Birth he would have been given a GREEK name.... IASOUS* TRANSLITERATED JESUS... The Jewish Elite spoke Hebrew as a means to elevate their status and we know that Jesus spoke many languages but the country as a whole including Jesus Earthly Family would have definitely spoke Greek....so the whole Yeshua debate is NULL....
THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS,
Clarence
Sorry, I cannot believe this.Many countries have had occupying forces without changing their languages, but you go ahead and think what you think until you realize this is poppycock.