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None of this was my original point.
My one mistake though, was not qualifying this statement better, I should have been more clear I was connecting it to "the thou and thy etc.,
Anyone who has studied Shakespeare in high school can understand the KJV.
@Dino246 made a general statement "is different enough from modern English that it is, in places, incomprehensible."
And rather than accept some qualification to his statement he doubled down.
Whether it is the better book for the common man was not my point. My point is that it is comprehensible to some people.
And since everyone is offering opinions apart from any data or evidence, that is my opinion.
This topic seems to really trigger people, very sad.
My one mistake though, was not qualifying this statement better, I should have been more clear I was connecting it to "the thou and thy etc.,
Anyone who has studied Shakespeare in high school can understand the KJV.
@Dino246 made a general statement "is different enough from modern English that it is, in places, incomprehensible."
And rather than accept some qualification to his statement he doubled down.
Whether it is the better book for the common man was not my point. My point is that it is comprehensible to some people.
And since everyone is offering opinions apart from any data or evidence, that is my opinion.
This topic seems to really trigger people, very sad.
I don't think anyone here has an objection to anyone using the KJV (if they can truly comprehend it)....
The point of contention is when people claim that it is the ONLY accurate translation, and that all others are inaccurate, even heretical.
That simply is not true.
If I only had a KJV to read/study for the rest of my life, I'd be ok... I'd prefer a newer version, but I could read it and understand it.... because I've learned over the many years how that early English language works.
On the other hand, if a street person comes to you and says, "what's this 'God' stuff all about" ..... handing him/her a KJV and saying "there you go" is probably the fastest way to drive them away from learning about God. They need to hear the story in THEIR language, not King James' language.
The point of contention is when people claim that it is the ONLY accurate translation, and that all others are inaccurate, even heretical.
That simply is not true.
If I only had a KJV to read/study for the rest of my life, I'd be ok... I'd prefer a newer version, but I could read it and understand it.... because I've learned over the many years how that early English language works.
On the other hand, if a street person comes to you and says, "what's this 'God' stuff all about" ..... handing him/her a KJV and saying "there you go" is probably the fastest way to drive them away from learning about God. They need to hear the story in THEIR language, not King James' language.
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Look at the examples in post 74. The fact that they may be understood by some people is completely irrelevant. The word of God should not be limited to some people who happen to have received training in a specific and narrow field.
I wrote what I meant and don’t need to modify it so that you agree.
I wrote what I meant and don’t need to modify it so that you agree.
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You mean the "clarification" of this is why I am right and you are wrong! 
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Here is my observation about the topic in which I have raised my question. The Greek “Pascha” is the same as Passover/ Easter and vice versa and may refer to both Christian Holiday and Jewish Passover (see link below).
Per The Shorter Oxford Dictionary pp. 624, 1524.
Easter- a festival of the Christian Church commemorating the resurrection of Christ, and corresponding to the Jewish Passover.
Passover- 1. The name of Jewish feast, held on the evening on the fourteenth day of the first month Nissan, commemorative to the ‘passing over of the houses of the Israelites when the Egyptians were smitten with the loss of their firstborn 2. contextually, the Paschal Lamb figuratively applied to Christ 1 Cor. 5:7
Basically, Easter is the same as Passover in a modern Greek Dictionary and in the English Dictionary, Easter is a commemorative event of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus. The event is the epitome of his death and his burial which Christ as the lamb of God became the Passover lamb, hence closely connected to the Passover event.
https://www.wordreference.com/engr/Easter
https://www.wordreference.com/engr/Passover
the word Easter coined by William Tyndale in his New Testament (1525 ) who also later invented the English word “Passover”.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Passover#:~:text=Coined by William Tyndale (c,Hebrew פֶּסַח (pésach).
This is to note that William Tyndale is a brilliant scholar in the way he used the English word “Easter”/ “Ester” connected to the Jewish Passover and not associated with the pagan festival. He knows that the very sense is of the resurrection of Christ. Early English Dictionaries refer to Easter as the resurrection of Christ. John Palsgrave, Conrad Gesner. Previous Dictionaries offer Pascha, pasca means Easter as the resurrection of Christ so succeeding Dictionaries give Pasca or Pasha meaning Easter and Easter is not an error at all.
John Palsgrave, Lesclarcissement de la Langue Francoyse (1530)
Easter a hye feestla resurrection nostre seignevr s fe, pasques fe.
Conrad Gesner, Abecedarium Anglico-latinum (1552)
Resurrection of the Lord called Easter.
Thomas Elyot, The Dictionary of Sir Thomas Elyot (1538)
Pascha,Easter.
Thomas Elyot, Bibliotheca Eliotae (1542)
Pasca, Easter
Per The Shorter Oxford Dictionary pp. 624, 1524.
Easter- a festival of the Christian Church commemorating the resurrection of Christ, and corresponding to the Jewish Passover.
Passover- 1. The name of Jewish feast, held on the evening on the fourteenth day of the first month Nissan, commemorative to the ‘passing over of the houses of the Israelites when the Egyptians were smitten with the loss of their firstborn 2. contextually, the Paschal Lamb figuratively applied to Christ 1 Cor. 5:7
Basically, Easter is the same as Passover in a modern Greek Dictionary and in the English Dictionary, Easter is a commemorative event of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus. The event is the epitome of his death and his burial which Christ as the lamb of God became the Passover lamb, hence closely connected to the Passover event.
https://www.wordreference.com/engr/Easter
https://www.wordreference.com/engr/Passover
the word Easter coined by William Tyndale in his New Testament (1525 ) who also later invented the English word “Passover”.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Passover#:~:text=Coined by William Tyndale (c,Hebrew פֶּסַח (pésach).
This is to note that William Tyndale is a brilliant scholar in the way he used the English word “Easter”/ “Ester” connected to the Jewish Passover and not associated with the pagan festival. He knows that the very sense is of the resurrection of Christ. Early English Dictionaries refer to Easter as the resurrection of Christ. John Palsgrave, Conrad Gesner. Previous Dictionaries offer Pascha, pasca means Easter as the resurrection of Christ so succeeding Dictionaries give Pasca or Pasha meaning Easter and Easter is not an error at all.
John Palsgrave, Lesclarcissement de la Langue Francoyse (1530)
Easter a hye feestla resurrection nostre seignevr s fe, pasques fe.
Conrad Gesner, Abecedarium Anglico-latinum (1552)
Resurrection of the Lord called Easter.
Thomas Elyot, The Dictionary of Sir Thomas Elyot (1538)
Pascha,Easter.
Thomas Elyot, Bibliotheca Eliotae (1542)
Pasca, Easter
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Now, here’s the Bede’s quote:
Here may help if you like regarding Bede's assertion of Paganized festival won't work that way to the English word Easter. The link is provided below:
https://familychristmasonline.com/other_holidays/easter/bede.htm
Original Latin:
Eostur-monath, qui nunc Paschalis mensis interpretatur, quondam a Dea illorum quæ Eostre vocabatur, et cui in illo festa celebrabant nomen habuit: a cujus nomine nunc Paschale tempus cognominant, consueto antiquæ observationis vocabulo gaudia novæ solemnitatis vocantes. - Giles (1843:179).
Modern English translation:
Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated "Paschal month", and which was once called after a goddess of theirs named Eostre, in whose honour feasts were celebrated in that month. Now they designate that Paschal season by her name, calling the joys of the new rite by the time-honoured name of the old observance." - Wallis (1999:54).
We have to take note, even Wallis did not translate “Paschlis” in English but rather similar to Greek Pascha which accordingly to the venerable Bede corresponds to goddess Eostre. What Bede perhaps did miss is the Jewish Passover which he rather thought Eostre season as an old observance though some scholars dismissed the claim of Bede.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ēostre
Again, we have to note the Hebrew Pesach, Greek Pascha was long celebrated before he wrote Eostur-monath . Now, here is gathered timeline as seen on the internet for comparison.
The timeline would date from 1451BC for the Jewish Passover
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/old-testament-timeline-passover/
The timeline would date 580 BCE probably for the Eostre, but if you have the other timeline then I can change my gathered information.
https://www.sctimes.com/story/opini...and-cultural-appropriation-eostre/7317930001/
Timeline for the death of “Paschal/Passover Lamb”, the probable would be April 3, 33 AD a few hours before the beginning of Passover Day.
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grou...efore, on Friday,Passover day and the Sabbath.
So, the Jewish Passover is much celebrated long before what Bede said in his writings. Remember, the Hebrew Pesach always corresponds to Christ so the celebration of Pascha is not unchristian as per Oxford and other Dictionary. And the Dictionaries are saying that Easter is the resurrection of Christ.
Here may help if you like regarding Bede's assertion of Paganized festival won't work that way to the English word Easter. The link is provided below:
https://familychristmasonline.com/other_holidays/easter/bede.htm
Original Latin:
Eostur-monath, qui nunc Paschalis mensis interpretatur, quondam a Dea illorum quæ Eostre vocabatur, et cui in illo festa celebrabant nomen habuit: a cujus nomine nunc Paschale tempus cognominant, consueto antiquæ observationis vocabulo gaudia novæ solemnitatis vocantes. - Giles (1843:179).
Modern English translation:
Eosturmonath has a name which is now translated "Paschal month", and which was once called after a goddess of theirs named Eostre, in whose honour feasts were celebrated in that month. Now they designate that Paschal season by her name, calling the joys of the new rite by the time-honoured name of the old observance." - Wallis (1999:54).
We have to take note, even Wallis did not translate “Paschlis” in English but rather similar to Greek Pascha which accordingly to the venerable Bede corresponds to goddess Eostre. What Bede perhaps did miss is the Jewish Passover which he rather thought Eostre season as an old observance though some scholars dismissed the claim of Bede.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ēostre
Again, we have to note the Hebrew Pesach, Greek Pascha was long celebrated before he wrote Eostur-monath . Now, here is gathered timeline as seen on the internet for comparison.
The timeline would date from 1451BC for the Jewish Passover
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/old-testament-timeline-passover/
The timeline would date 580 BCE probably for the Eostre, but if you have the other timeline then I can change my gathered information.
https://www.sctimes.com/story/opini...and-cultural-appropriation-eostre/7317930001/
Timeline for the death of “Paschal/Passover Lamb”, the probable would be April 3, 33 AD a few hours before the beginning of Passover Day.
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grou...efore, on Friday,Passover day and the Sabbath.
So, the Jewish Passover is much celebrated long before what Bede said in his writings. Remember, the Hebrew Pesach always corresponds to Christ so the celebration of Pascha is not unchristian as per Oxford and other Dictionary. And the Dictionaries are saying that Easter is the resurrection of Christ.
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A sample of the difficult, archaic words...
Matthew 9:17 - NASV / wineskins - KJV / bottles
Matthew 1:11 - NASV / deportation - KJV / carried away
Luke 6:22 - NASV / ostracize - KJV / separate you from their company
1 Thes. 2:18 - NASV / thwarted - KJV / hindered
1 Tim. 3:3 - NASV / pugnacious - KJV / striker
1 Tim. 3:8 - NASV / sordid - KJV / filthy
1 Tim. 6:16 - NASV / a pang - KJV / sorrows
Hebrews 7:2 - NASV / apportioned - KJV / gave
Hebrews 12:1 - NASV / encumbrance - KJV / weight
Revelation 6:8 - NASV / ashen - KJV / pale
Revelation 18:1 - NASV / illumined - KJV / lightened
Matthew 9:17 - NASV / wineskins - KJV / bottles
Matthew 1:11 - NASV / deportation - KJV / carried away
Luke 6:22 - NASV / ostracize - KJV / separate you from their company
1 Thes. 2:18 - NASV / thwarted - KJV / hindered
1 Tim. 3:3 - NASV / pugnacious - KJV / striker
1 Tim. 3:8 - NASV / sordid - KJV / filthy
1 Tim. 6:16 - NASV / a pang - KJV / sorrows
Hebrews 7:2 - NASV / apportioned - KJV / gave
Hebrews 12:1 - NASV / encumbrance - KJV / weight
Revelation 6:8 - NASV / ashen - KJV / pale
Revelation 18:1 - NASV / illumined - KJV / lightened
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