Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

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oyster67

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the Father has no beginning but apparently, the God (Christ) in Isaiah 43: 10 had a time that existed before Him which means that He didn't always exist in the past. Actually, the beginning started when Christ was formed out of the Father's essence.
The Three have always existed as a Trinity.
Father, Son, Holy Ghost.
Trinity to infinity... and from infinity.
Different wills= Different minds= Different entities.
The Three agree.
 

oyster67

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Why not ask me? I never said that God needs a source to create.
I know God's truth and you do not! You are the one who relegates God's Word to a book of myths and fables because you are incapable of understanding it. Example: " God can generate light by any means He so chooses". Okay, exactly how does He do without without a source? Go ahead, give me an answer -- otherwise KEEP QUIET!
 

oyster67

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We love you Jaybo, but sometimes it's just sooooo hard to keep quiet... and refrain from using those funny little faces. :geek:

Please come visit us in kindergarten sometime. We have the finest of fun times there. :giggle:
 
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We love you Jaybo, but sometimes it's just sooooo hard to keep quiet... and refrain from using those funny little faces. :geek:

Please come visit us in kindergarten sometime. We have the finest of fun times there. :giggle:
From your picture it seems that you're long past kindergarten. If you're referring to behavior, you're the one who said "visit us in kindergarten".
 
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Asking "exactly how does He do without without a source?" doesn't mean I have the answer. It's a question -- to someone else.
 
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Asking "exactly how does He do without without a source?" doesn't mean I have the answer. It's a question that you never answered.

Finally, I'm tired of your unChristian attacks. Your behavior has nothing in common with being a Christian. And you call me an atheist!!!

I'm putting you on ignore until your self-righteous behavior changes.
 
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He is the source .:D
Is there something you don't understand about "it's a question -- to someone else"?

The discussion was about light having a source. Of course, God created light but what is the source of the light in Genesis 1:3-5, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."

So God saw the light. Did He see Himself?
God divided the light from the darkness. Does God have darkness?
Is God's name "Day"?
 

Magenta

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Is there something you don't understand about "it's a question -- to someone else"?
I do not need an invitation to participate, or have a question put to me directly in order to answer.

That is how discussion boards function...
 

oyster67

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Is there something you don't understand about "it's a question -- to someone else"?
Are you reprimanding Magenta, Oyster, or both of us? Your question has been addressed and answered multiple times now. Do you have everyone on ignore? :confused:
 
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If I build a fire in my fireplace, wood is the source of the fire. I may be the creator, but I am not the source. So, what is the source of the light in Genesis 1:3-4, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness." God is the creator, but He clearly is not the source. And if He divided the light from the darkness, does God have darkness? Obviously not!

So again, what is the source of the light?
 

Magenta

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If I build a fire in my fireplace, wood is the source of the fire. I may be the creator, but I am not the source. So, what is the source of the light in Genesis 1:3-4, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness." God is the creator, but He clearly is not the source. And if He divided the light from the darkness, does God have darkness? Obviously not!

So again, what is the source of the light?
God is obviously the source of the Light. Some say the Light itself is Jesus... since
the sun did not yet exist. Darkness covered the face of the earth after it was created.
 

birdie

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?

Thanks for your question. Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. "

In my opinion, people tend to read into this verse and think that it is talking about planet earth and also about the atmosphere, or even including beyond the atmosphere into outer space. However, I see this a bit differently. I see this as talking more about God creating his own people. For example, the Bible defines heaven as God's throne: "Heaven is my throne" (Acts 7:49a). If we continue examining God's throne in the Bible, we see Jesus is in the midst of it: "For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them," (Rev 7:17a). To me, this definition of heaven is not talking about the sky or the upper atmosphere or outer space. Heaven is a term used to describe God's people in Matthew 24: 31. People are spoken of as being one end of heaven to the other. I think that when God's people have God on the throne in their hearts, the term heaven could be used.

There are other places in the Bible that people have assumed are talking about outer space and the planets, which I also do not think is the case intended. For example, we read: "[[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. " You could say that the planets and outer space show God's handiwork. Or, instead, you could let the Bible define the term heaven, and say that God's people, who have Jesus on the throne of their hearts, declare the glory of God. That makes sense, because the people of God cannot help but talk about the glory of God. Further, the term 'firmament' is just another word for heaven. We learn that in Genesis 1:8: "And God called the firmament Heaven "
 

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Heb 11:3 kjv "Through Faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
 

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As others here have mentioned, God is the source of light.
However these are the technical questions which make this topic funny in every discussion board or real life, because neither science nor the Bible has any technical answers.
This is why I had to make peace with a lot of technical questions because we won’t understand them for as long as humanity exists.
We know and we believe that God has created us and the Bible is not an engineering book for answers on how our biology works or a lessons on thermodynamics, but a relationship book to our creator.
Science on the other hand can’t tell and won’t be able to shed any details on Origins questions.
Being a technical person, I would also like to know the answers for a lot of technical questions. I asked one about entropy earlier.
But, in the end I have to trust God will reveal everything to us when He comes again to make this Creation perfect again.
So, pretending to know the answers to technical questions …. Can lead to humor.
 
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God is obviously the source of the Light. Some say the Light itself is Jesus... since
the sun did not yet exist. Darkness covered the face of the earth after it was created.
This makes no sense. God is not "obviously the source of the light". He is the creator but what causes the light to shine? "Some say..." is irrelevant.

What is the source of the light?
 
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Thanks for your question. Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. "

In my opinion, people tend to read into this verse and think that it is talking about planet earth and also about the atmosphere, or even including beyond the atmosphere into outer space. However, I see this a bit differently. I see this as talking more about God creating his own people. For example, the Bible defines heaven as God's throne: "Heaven is my throne" (Acts 7:49a). If we continue examining God's throne in the Bible, we see Jesus is in the midst of it: "For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them," (Rev 7:17a). To me, this definition of heaven is not talking about the sky or the upper atmosphere or outer space. Heaven is a term used to describe God's people in Matthew 24: 31. People are spoken of as being one end of heaven to the other. I think that when God's people have God on the throne in their hearts, the term heaven could be used.

There are other places in the Bible that people have assumed are talking about outer space and the planets, which I also do not think is the case intended. For example, we read: "[[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. " You could say that the planets and outer space show God's handiwork. Or, instead, you could let the Bible define the term heaven, and say that God's people, who have Jesus on the throne of their hearts, declare the glory of God. That makes sense, because the people of God cannot help but talk about the glory of God. Further, the term 'firmament' is just another word for heaven. We learn that in Genesis 1:8: "And God called the firmament Heaven "
The text is talking about the planet Earth. Genesis 1:1-3, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." People are not mentioned; they haven't been created yet.
 

Magenta

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This makes no sense. God is not "obviously the source of the light". He is the creator but what causes the light to shine? "Some say..." is irrelevant.

What is the source of the light?
All things were created by Him and for Him. So how can you say God is not "obviously the source of the light"?

Do you think I meant light was shining out of Him as if He were a light bulb? .:unsure::oops::rolleyes: