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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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the bank in cal. that went under last week had made many loans to climate change companies.

so, their failure was no surprise.

oh, and they also gave millions to b l m.
And your source of this information is..?
 

gb9

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And your source of this information is..?
new york times had a story about, a b c news also.

there are some sources.

now, you never answered my question from a while back- is antifa a good or bad thing??
 
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new york times had a story about, a b c news also.

there are some sources.

now, you never answered my question from a while back- is antifa a good or bad thing??
Anti-fascism is always a good thing. Are you pro-Hitler?
 

gb9

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Anti-fascism is always a good thing. Are you pro-Hitler?
i do not care about nor think about hitler.

so, just a few days ago, antifa attacked an event at u c davis where a Christian conservative speaker was giving a speech.

is that ok??

is free speech fascist???
 
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i do not care about nor think about hitler.

so, just a few days ago, antifa attacked an event at u c davis where a Christian conservative speaker was giving a speech.

is that ok??

is free speech fascist???
Nice try at changing the subject! You wrote "is antifa a good or bad thing??" "antifa" is an abbreviation of antiFascist. So if you oppose antiFascism then you are proFascism.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition. (wikipedia).

AntiFascism, by definition, opposes this. If you oppose antiFascism, then you are in favor of a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, etc.
 

Solemateleft

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😆, here’s the fundamental flaw in his misplaced logic trail… at this point it’s obvious he’s either too far down the rabbit hole matrix or he’s a DS troll…

If lying is bad
And honesty is good
If a lier claims to be honest (or identifies as an honest person) does that make him good or…

If Fascist are bad
And Anti-Fascists are good
If a Fascist identifies as an Anti-Fascist does that make them automatically Good???

😆 this circular flawed logic will be easier to explain and convince only after all the TRUTHS have been Shown…. At this stage, these types of sleepers have to be shown, nothing we say will ever be able to compel them to divorce themselves from all of their flawed knowledge and beliefs they have been consuming for so long from their flawed belief system and MSM narratives all these years…
 

HeIsHere

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😆, here’s the fundamental flaw in his misplaced logic trail… at this point it’s obvious he’s either too far down the rabbit hole matrix or he’s a DS troll…

If lying is bad
And honesty is good
If a lier claims to be honest (or identifies as an honest person) does that make him good or…

If Fascist are bad
And Anti-Fascists are good
If a Fascist identifies as an Anti-Fascist does that make them automatically Good???

😆 this circular flawed logic will be easier to explain and convince only after all the TRUTHS have been Shown…. At this stage, these types of sleepers have to be shown, nothing we say will ever be able to compel them to divorce themselves from all of their flawed knowledge and beliefs they have been consuming for so long from their flawed belief system and MSM narratives all these years…

There is not much which can be said to a person who really thinks "antifa" is an anti-fascist movement.
 

HeIsHere

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Nice try at changing the subject! You wrote "is antifa a good or bad thing??" "antifa" is an abbreviation of antiFascist. So if you oppose antiFascism then you are proFascism.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition. (wikipedia).

AntiFascism, by definition, opposes this. If you oppose antiFascism, then you are in favor of a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, etc.


Sure, what you have in the USA is "antifa" without Fascism except for what lives in their >> "antifa's" heads.
 

gb9

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Nice try at changing the subject! You wrote "is antifa a good or bad thing??" "antifa" is an abbreviation of antiFascist. So if you oppose antiFascism then you are proFascism.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition. (wikipedia).

AntiFascism, by definition, opposes this. If you oppose antiFascism, then you are in favor of a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, etc.
it is not changing the subject ( like you bringing up hitler for no reason)

it is making a inquiry as to how you define these things.

so, we have groups here in america that call themselves " antifa" and routinely goes out and tries to stop conservative speakers .

now, trying to stop free speech sounds like what fascist would do, does it not??
 

ZNP

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😆, here’s the fundamental flaw in his misplaced logic trail… at this point it’s obvious he’s either too far down the rabbit hole matrix or he’s a DS troll…

If lying is bad
And honesty is good
If a lier claims to be honest (or identifies as an honest person) does that make him good or…

If Fascist are bad
And Anti-Fascists are good
If a Fascist identifies as an Anti-Fascist does that make them automatically Good???

😆 this circular flawed logic will be easier to explain and convince only after all the TRUTHS have been Shown…. At this stage, these types of sleepers have to be shown, nothing we say will ever be able to compel them to divorce themselves from all of their flawed knowledge and beliefs they have been consuming for so long from their flawed belief system and MSM narratives all these years…
It all depends on what the definition of is is.
 

ZNP

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There is not much which can be said to a person who really thinks "antifa" is an anti-fascist movement.
I have seen these "anti fascists" in both Atlanta and Washington DC. In Atlanta they were carrying baseball bats, garbage can lids as some kind of shield, and wearing helmets.

In DC they were shouting curses at the crowd which included women, small children, even babies. Some of the vilest and nastiest people.
 
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it is not changing the subject ( like you bringing up hitler for no reason)

it is making a inquiry as to how you define these things.

so, we have groups here in america that call themselves " antifa" and routinely goes out and tries to stop conservative speakers .

now, trying to stop free speech sounds like what fascist would do, does it not??
What are you writing about?

I brought up Hitler because he is the epitome of a fascist leader. Fascism is defined as "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition." By definition, anti-Fascism -- antifa -- is the exact opposite.

There are those in the US -- or "america" as you call it without capitalization -- who oppose the extreme nationalism and racial hatred in the US today. antifa is such a group, and they oppose "conservative" speakers (though they are anything but) who promote racism and nationalism above freedom of the individual. If by "free speech" you include fascism, do you think that should be promoted in a democracy?

I have lived most of my life in the time when "conservatism" meant something:
  • Individual Freedom
  • Limited Government
  • The Rule of Law
  • Peace through Strength
  • Fiscal Responsibility
  • Free Markets
  • Human Dignity
Today it has morphed into political suppression of the opposition, unbridled capitalism, armed control of dissent, currying favor with Communist governments, dishonesty, unlimited ownership and use of guns, and other unAmerican tactics. The epitome was the attack on the Capitol to prevent the legal procedure to certify the results of the Presidential election, and the absurd claim that the election was "stolen". These are the tactics of fascists!

Do some research into how Hitler gained power if you want to understand what is happening in the US today.
 

JTB

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i do not care about nor think about hitler.

so, just a few days ago, antifa attacked an event at u c davis where a Christian conservative speaker was giving a speech.

is that ok??

is free speech fascist???
It is when only YOUR speech is free.