Technological Signs relating to Christ’s Coming are being fulfilled.

Why do you say this?

Are you looking at the quoted passage above and thinking: UNSAVED persons of the nation of Israel, who've DIED (at some point in the past, from this perspective) will be "resurrected" (bodily, from the dead) and THEN the SPIRIT OF GOD is breathed into them (like, AFTER 'DEATH' / at some point AFTER THEY'VE DIED)??

It has nothing to do with you.

Didn't think it did...

What is wrong?

Is it a "just can't stand to be in the same thread with [a certain person]" kind of thing?

Is it a "just can't get anyone to agree with my view" kind of thing?

What is it?

Did I miss something?

I don't desire to cause dissension or be a stumbling block. It's a personal decision.

I am looking at it as the saved individual literal people of the original [real-and-true] nation of Israel - after the resurrection - living in the land during the Millenium.

I believe you have misunderstood my question.

In 'practical' terms, there will be a "last soul saved" before Christ returns - there is/are no two ways about it - it is, by definition, inescapable.

In 'practical' terms, we are talking about souls actually being saved rather than the power to save being ever-present for that purpose.

What do you do with the following verses

where you'd put (something like) you see the "break" being between Dan11:39 and 11:40

Was the 18th century Methodist Joseph Benson a full preterist? His note on Joel 2:31
"The expressions here used, in their literal sense, import the failing of light in the sun and moon, whether by eclipses or any other cause, such as perhaps, at the time here referred to, by the prodigious quantity of smoke arising from the burning of cities, towns, and villages on every side, and also of Jerusalem itself, which undoubtedly was sufficient to obscure the heavenly luminaries for some time. Or, the expression in this verse may be interpreted figuratively of the dark and melancholy state of public affairs before and at the destruction of the Jewish nation by the Romans, and of the utter overthrow of their state and government: see note on Isaiah 13:9-10. The last destruction of Jerusalem, the desolation of Judea, and the prodigious slaughter made of the Jews, might with great propriety be called, as it is here, The great and terrible day of the Lord; since the divine justice was then executed with a severity which had never been used before toward the Jewish people. The calamities of those times were indeed dreadful, almost beyond description, and seem to have exceeded any thing that any other nation had ever suffered; which was agreeable to what Moses, in the very beginning of their state, had foretold should happen to them, if ever, by their disobedience to God’s commands, and their other crimes, they should fill up the measure of their iniquity"
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/rbc/joel-2.html

Was the 18th century Baptist John Gill a full preterist? His note on Joel 2:31
"The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,.... Not by eclipses, as Aben Ezra; but by the clouds of smoke arising from the burning of towns and cities, which would be so great as to obscure the sun, and through which the moon would look like blood: or all, this may be understood in a figurative sense of the change that should be made in the ecclesiastic and civil state of the Jewish nation, signified by the "heavens" and "earth"; and particularly that their king or kingdom should be in a low, mean, and distressed condition, designed by the sun; and the change of their priesthood is signified by the "moon": so Vitringa on Isaiah 24:23; interprets the "sun" here of King Agrippa, the last king of the Jews in obscurity; and the "moon" of Ananias junior, the high priest, slain by the zealots:

before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come; not the fall of Gog and Magog, as Kimchi; not the day of the last judgment, but of the destruction of Jerusalem; not by the Chaldeans, but by the Romans; their last destruction, which was very great and terrible indeed, and in which there was a manifest appearance of the hand and power of God; see Malachi 4:1. Maimonides u interprets it of the destruction of Sennacherib near Jerusalem; but if that sense is not acceptable, he proposes that of the destruction of Gog and Magog, in the times of the Messiah."
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/geb/joel-2.html

Neither Joseph Benson nor John Gill were full preterists and neither am I. I merely read scripture in its context. I do believe the great judgments of God have similarities but a passage has one meaning and one meaning only.

I am not convinced of the futurist paradigm, I am undecided as to whether scripture is revealing this.

I am not a futurist. I am a/an historicist. I am convinced that the futurist view is replete with error that originates from the severe misinterpretation of scripture. I have no problem telling you outright that scripture is most certainly not revealing it.

If this is not the type of thing you are talking about - then - what exactly are you talking about?

And, perhaps more importantly, how did this come out of our "conversation" in posts 371 - 373 - 378 - 385 - 399...???

I am not a futurist. I am a/an historicist. I am convinced that the futurist view is replete with error that originates from the severe misinterpretation of scripture. I have no problem telling you outright that scripture is most certainly not revealing it.

If this is not the type of thing you are talking about - then - what exactly are you talking about?

And, perhaps more importantly, how did this come out of our "conversation" in posts 371 - 373 - 378 - 385 - 399...???

I have seen first hand satellites, government issued defense models, capable of being 10 orbits from Earth and while traveling around the Planet be able to focus on a specific location and literally from thousands and thousands of miles away read the face of a Dime laying on a sidewalk.

'10 orbits from Earth' ?

Please explain in specific physical-realm terms what you meant by this. I don't see how it fits into the currently-accepted collection of terms used by NASA et al.

The nation state of Israel is not fully soveriegn or muslims would not occupy the temple mount.
Im not willing to ignor what is written,
“Now it shall come to pass, when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God drives you, and you return to the Lord your God and obey His voice, according to all that I command you today, you and your children, with all your heart and with all your soul, that the Lord your God will bring you back from captivity, and have compassion on you, and gather you again from all the nations where the Lord your God has scattered you.
Deuteronomy 30:1‭-‬3 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/deu.30.1-3.NKJV

There is nothing left to be said here. We are never going to agree.

I have been pondering about these verses too. Could someone address these @cv5 Do you have any input on these verses and how they relate to the state of Israel?

My mind is not made up on the subject but I see the foundation of Israel as a miracle. They beat 5 countries that attacked them simultaneously in 1967, completely outnumbered. I know they are an antichrist state meaning they deny Christ both jews and muslims, BUT ive been thinking about it like this:

In Zechariah 14 the nations are gathered against Israel, correct? Who is doing the gathering of these nations? its GOD and it seems like its about PUNISHMENT to Israel. Now think about this: WHY would God punish an obedient Israel like the one mentioned in Deuteronomy? It wouldn't make much sense, but if Israel was gathered in unbelief, and then punished for it and THEN a 3rd is refined and saved when Jesus returns as we see in Zechariah 14, and then the nations are punished. Wouldn't this timeline fit? What do you guys think?

Also concider what is written in the book of the Revelation of John.
‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 NASB1995
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NASB1995
Here God calls them a synagog of satan.

My personal view on their "victory" in 67 is part of a great deception designed to mislead christians into a satanic backward version of zionism. The same with rebuilding the temple and attempting to breed the "red heifer"
If you read the description of the temple in Ezekiel, this is not a thing that can be done by any human. Its not a man made temple. This is God's temple. What ever they build in the nation state of Israel will be a counterfeit.