I have some questions that I was hoping to get a non-reformed perspective on. It seems that a common objection to reformed soteriology is with regards to God being the author of evil under a reformed perspective. It seems that this contention stems from God making decisions or taking actions that necessarily bring about evil, particularly in people's specific actions or their choice (or lack thereof) with regards to salvation. Hopefully that is an accurate, albeit succinct, representation of the objection.
For those who have used and consider this objection to be reasonable, how do you avoid the inherent implications?
When I consider this objection, I run into aspects of it that I find difficult to reconcile. Let's, for a moment, presume that it is right to think that if a decision or action of God's necessarily brings about evil, that makes Him the author of that evil. Let's also presume that God knows the future decisions and actions of future people (evidenced by prophecy). Even if people are afforded libertarian free will, how does God avoid culpability considering He knows the evil someone will enact (though freely) if they are created and yet, in spite of this certainty, nevertheless creates them?
Disclaimer: In case it wasn't obvious, I'm sure most would consider me reformed or "Calvinist". I hope this does not dissuade participation or stifle dialog. I am not looking to spark an argument. I am, though, looking to understand other perspectives better. I also don't consider myself a particularly bright individual so I'm sure this question has been asked and answered before. I apologize if it has. I just couldn't find it anywhere else. Finally, I apologize if anyone doesn't like the term "non-reformed" but I know there are many positions that fall into this category (Arminianism, Provisionism, Traditionalist, etc.) and I don't know of a better term to encapsulate as many of them as possible.
For those who have used and consider this objection to be reasonable, how do you avoid the inherent implications?
When I consider this objection, I run into aspects of it that I find difficult to reconcile. Let's, for a moment, presume that it is right to think that if a decision or action of God's necessarily brings about evil, that makes Him the author of that evil. Let's also presume that God knows the future decisions and actions of future people (evidenced by prophecy). Even if people are afforded libertarian free will, how does God avoid culpability considering He knows the evil someone will enact (though freely) if they are created and yet, in spite of this certainty, nevertheless creates them?
Disclaimer: In case it wasn't obvious, I'm sure most would consider me reformed or "Calvinist". I hope this does not dissuade participation or stifle dialog. I am not looking to spark an argument. I am, though, looking to understand other perspectives better. I also don't consider myself a particularly bright individual so I'm sure this question has been asked and answered before. I apologize if it has. I just couldn't find it anywhere else. Finally, I apologize if anyone doesn't like the term "non-reformed" but I know there are many positions that fall into this category (Arminianism, Provisionism, Traditionalist, etc.) and I don't know of a better term to encapsulate as many of them as possible.
So you bring out a valid point in my opinion. There is a third option that many have not considered and call it a heresy called "Open theism" I dont know much about it, I dont know how prophecy could ever work with this view, however the view basically says: God knows everything that can be known, God is infinitely wise, but there are certain things He did not expect to happen. They give certain examples of the Bible which we consider anthropomorfisms (or whatever it was) and take it literally like God telling Abraham: "NOW I know" meaning God wasn't sure if Abraham was 100% faithful before.
Another example they use is Israel when God says I was expecting this, but got that instead, what more could I have done? And when they are sacrificing to moloch God says "neither did it enter into my mind" which again seems God was surprised by the wickedness. The fact that God repents when the flood of Noah is brought about, He regrets creating man.
We obviously look at these texts as ways of God talking to us in a way we can relate to and understand, but the open theist view takes these for what it says. I do appreciate that kind of response and it "gets God off the hook" so to speak when it comes to your question of God being the author of evil, HOWEVER, my biggest issue with this view is that it seems like God just isn't Mighty enough, it seems like God is sitting there in heaven calculating the odds of how likely is this thing going to fail and so on.
IF there are any open theists out here, jump in and let us know more. How does prophecy work in this view?
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