First Thread: ☕🙂👍📖 Should the Bible Be the Text Book?

Yes. That is why I am not eligible to be nominated in my Church. No hermits allowed into the ministry.

pastoral care is quite a different job to teaching. People tend to lump them in the same category.

Pastors (shepherds, shepherdesses) look after the sheep. Its a caregiving role, not necessarily a teaching one. I know many teachers who just want to impart knowledge and actually dont care about their students (disciples) wellbeing and safety.

There are 3 Greek words in the NT which mean pastor.

1. Poimen - S4166
2. Presbyteros - S4245
3. Episkopos - S1985

From those three words we get the English Presbyter, Elder, Pastor, Overseer, and Bishop. A careful study will reveal that these words referred to the same office in the first century Church. Later people began making unauthorized changes and thus we have the big mess today.

Pastors we're always men.

Actually Teaching is a different job from Pastoring altogether, As a teacher you would prepare lesson plans and develop a ciriculum for what you your teaching your students. While that is also a part of the duty of the pastor, the Pastor is also responcible for doing services, your sunday service, mid week bible studies, weddings, funerals, Baptisms and ordination services. On top of Doing home visitations, visitor visitations, hospital or nursing home visistations. Plus there are 2 entirely different qualifications as a teacher the position can be filled by a man or woman. The pastor has to be a man, married to a woman in accordance to scripture.

Ephesians 4:10-14
10. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above the heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11. And he gave some, apostles; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12. For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13. Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of stature of the fullness of Christ.
14. That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lay in wait to deceive;

1st Timothy 3:1-7
1. This is a true saying. If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3. Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4. One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravety;
5. (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God) (cant make question mark work on this keyboard)
6. Not a novice, lest being filled up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

hope this helps.

Am not asking for help am just saying pastoring is different from teaching. Not sure why so many confuse the two or lump then together. Pastors have enough to do without adding teaching to their 'duties'.

While Jesus did teach (he had twelve students! He taught them for 3 years!) pastoring was the most important role for people who were not yet ready to learn. They just need to experience Gods love FIRST. The majority of people you tell the gospel to are only ready to be students when they decide, yes I want to learn everything about God and they are hungry for Him. Until then they are babes in Christ and mere toddlers that need love and care.

The Bible is the foundation for robust small group discussions.

Sure, other resources are helpful to weave in, yet Scripture is the best primary source.

Yes, we have to wrestle our way through some challenging concepts, but we have the Holy Spirit to guide us into a deeper relationship with Jesus, the ultimate Word of God!

Am not asking for help am just saying pastoring is different from teaching. Not sure why so many confuse the two or lump then together. Pastors have enough to do without adding teaching to their 'duties'.

While Jesus did teach (he had twelve students! He taught them for 3 years!) pastoring was the most important role for people who were not yet ready to learn. They just need to experience Gods love FIRST. The majority of people you tell the gospel to are only ready to be students when they decide, yes I want to learn everything about God and they are hungry for Him. Until then they are babes in Christ and mere toddlers that need love and care.

The important issue for me is to teach the WHOLE Bible, not just the parts that support doctrine. I find very little of that happening today and it frightens me.

You know guys, I have tried applying for pastoral jobs, mostly because I see a need for improvement in churches. I have applied to bible colleges and been rejected because I dont have the qualifications they want.

Thank you Student!

You know guys, I have tried applying for pastoral jobs, mostly because I see a need for improvement in churches. I have applied to bible colleges and been rejected because I dont have the qualifications they want.

It is discouraging, but I found a place online to obtain my ministers license. What I would like to do is find a job to persue the bachelor of ministry training my former pastor recommended through correspondence.

That course is about $80 to $100.00 Canadian once the fee and currencey exchange and taxes are included. I mean look at some of the heros of the faith. Joseph, he was a kid sold into slavery by his brothers. Went to prison based on false charges and eventually became second in command to Pharoh.

Moses, he wasnt an ellogent speaker, but he was willing to do Gods work and free the slaves from Egypt even though he killed a man and became a fugitive on the run.

King david, was a child when his ministry started, he killed the lion, the bear, then he killed Goliath in defence of his country. Eventually grew up to become a king.

I have a few good tools for studying, the Sword of the Lord software, a Strongs Greek and Hebrew referance book, I also have a membership at Christianbook.com, but ultimately the qualifications are for God to decide. Many are called but few are chose. It doesnt say anything about bible college or doctor of theology. It says to study to shew thyself approved, a workman who needeth not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. GIve attendance to doctrine, Ultimately its the pastors job to educate his flock. I would even argue that education is the churches jurisdiction and not the governments.

IF your in Canada we also have the Christian Heritage Party of Canada, which is devoted to defending Canadas biblical foundation. as well as the Canadian Christian Business Federation for Christian business owners.

Hi how are you, I have a Idea if your calling is to be in the ministry just get into prayer and ask God, he'll tell you, God bless,