666 Mark of the Beast Tech is Ready to be Rolled Out

or....everyone become their own teachers, nurses and tailors and you wouldnt have this problem of systemic collective governance thingy and pesky things like elections and democracy.

Everyone just live in their own homesteads generate their own power and do everything themselves. I think that would work. Dont have landlords or tenants or anything like that, or such a thing as welfare. Every man for himself and every woman for herself right? Surely childen dont really need looking after and should be able to run before they can walk too. The boys can work in the family business when they reach age of 10 and the girls can get married off when they are 12

Just taking things to their logical conclusion.

Gloriavale sounds like a model community that will avoid the mark of the beast surely.

I'm sure one will know one is taking a mark, the same as those taking the vaxx knew they were taking a mark. They just didn't know what it would do. Eve knew she was being offered a fruit - she just didn't know if would lead to damnation. Scripture doesn't say that people will know they are taking a mark of damnation - if they did, why would they take it?

For example, if people knew what the mark of the beast would do, why does God send the angel to warn people?

Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

I'm sorry but I dont agree. Why would god love us so much to send his son but then allow us to unknowingly take Satan's mark....that has me confused. My opinion......yes opinion is the vax is to cause health problems. It is also like the mask, to see who they can hurd. Who's going to listen when it's time to try and get the ball rolling. I really don't agree with the fact we will unknowingly take the mark.....we are ganna know.

When you say we, you mean Christians or do you include non-Christians? Somehow, I think it's impossible for Christians to take the mark, as one can't be damned and saved at the same time. But I struggle to believe one (i.e. a non-Christian) would take the mark knowing it means certain damnation.

I'm mean we as people, every person will know they have a choice to take the mark or not. I believe the rapture will happen before the mark is presented. Santan will deceive more then the ones that reject. The people who turn to Christ in these days will be the ones who have to go through some hard times. They won't be able to buy food or anything.

Something to think about, people physically saw Jesus, saw his miracles, yet they still rejected him. One of his own disciples turned against him for money (Judas). Satan is very good at deceiving people. Like when he put the apple infront of Adam and eve, he put something man found beautiful infront of them and deceived them. Told them not to listen to god. He will put the mark infront of people, make it appear beautiful and deceive people, telling them not to listen to god.

Look at the out come of the apple, they bit it. Man will except the mark. Look around us, man is excepting Satans lies now.....it will get worse. I just pray the lord to take his people before it gets extremely bad.

Jake, have you watched the movie/documentary called Before the wrath on vimeo? You have to pay to watch it unfortunately, about ten or twenty dollars. You pay once but can watch it many times. Well worth the watch. About pre trib rapture.

5 And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, and there is no water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

They were complaining about the Manna. That is our daily bread where we live by the word of God. Not every Christian is praying and musing over the word of God everyday. This is why they are confused. They have no light, no leading, no daily speaking from God. I agree that if they were speaking with God every day through His word it would not make sense, but these ones weren't.

6 And Jehovah sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

So the question is why would God send these serpents? On the one hand it is impressing the children of Israel with how important it is to be in daily communion with the Lord. On the other hand we are being trained to enter the good land and we can't do that apart from the Lord. Apart from Him we can do nothing.

7 And the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, because we have spoken against Jehovah, and against thee; pray unto Jehovah, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

I don't think anyone will understand or stop being confused until they realize that they had sinned. They spoke against the Lord and they spoke against His servants who were warning everyone. They were pretend Christians. They were the ones that the Lord says "depart from me for I never knew you". Think of them dying in the wilderness as the "dearly departed".

8 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a standard: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he seeth it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and set it upon the standard: and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he looked unto the serpent of brass, he lived.

Yep, the answer is to look upon the crucified Christ. You are heading to the cross. It is when we are on the road to the cross that we spend the most time on our knees in serious prayer.

No I haven't but my dad had shown me these 4 movie series from the 70s, their a little corney but good. Mark of the beast, distant thunder,thief in the night, parodical planet. I enjoyed watching them

Hi Ruby,

I found this interesting. Since I trusted Christian as my Savior I was taught that the wrath of God and the tribulation were the exact same thing. I still had questions, but this explains it better than I remember in past Bible studies. Perhaps you might find it interesting too.

The Wrath of God and the Tribulation

There are two variations of pre trib teaching. Pre trib does not mean pre crucifixion. We all must take up our cross and follow the Lord and we all must be crucified with Christ. Paul said the scars from the crucifixion were like our circumcision, the evidence that we have a covenant with God. Paul said he already bore the marks, he had been stoned, imprisoned, and gave up everything he had to follow the Lord. So if that is true for you then you can say along with Paul "henceforth let no man trouble me because I already bear about in my body the marks of Jesus"

I'm not sure where you are coming from.
Are you saying that believers will suffer like Christ before the rapture?

I believe that many Christians have gone through tribulations and sufferings. Paul went through far more than most of us though. I think that many Christians are taught that they will not suffer because of the rapture coming before the tribulation. Persecution is nothing new to Christianity and I think there's a strong likelihood of worldwide persecution before the Lord removes those who are alive and remain.
I've come to the conclusion that believers will be persecuted as such, but the Lord will remove them before the wrath to come when His judgements are poured out upon the world.

Of course. For the last two thousand years Christians have been:

Colossians 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church;

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mark 8:34 And he called unto him the multitude with his disciples, and said unto them, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Luke 14:27 Whosoever doth not bear his own cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Galatians 6:17 Henceforth let no man trouble me; for I bear branded on my body the marks of Jesus.

Any teaching that says you don't need to take up the cross, that you will not need to suffer, or that those sufferings could and most likely will include physical suffering to your flesh is clearly not Biblical.

I think I see what you meant now.

II Timothy 3:12
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

From what I understand this is true for the minority of Christians today in the US. The majority subscribe to a bless me club.

Yes, I agree there is such a thing as a "pre 70th week" rapture but that it is misleading to call it a pre tribulation rapture. I think all those who are in this pre 70th week rapture will be able to stand alongside those listed in Hebrews 11.

It is very interesting that Paul said that there was a crown laid up for all those who love the Lord's appearing. You would think that would refer to all believers, but it doesn't. There are many, many so called Christians who do not love the Lord's appearing. If you have given all including your whole living to the Lord then of course you would love His appearing, but if you haven't your treasure is not in heaven and your heart is wherever your treasure is.

Tribulation for believers, wrath for unbelievers. Its the same thing its how we react.

Noah went through the flood its just he and his family and the animals of each kind survived cos he was on the Ark. He believed.
Everyone else drowned/perished.

Why arent people getting it. Noah wasnt 'raptured' BEFORE his tribulation of the flood. He built the ark! He was still on it for 40 days and 40 nights, He didnt magically disappear or was 'removed'.

Jesus talked about Noah and said it would be like that. So get on the Ark...the one Jesus provides.

There are a lot of believers who live carnal lives and bear little fruit. Love for Christ comes with growth. With growth comes obedience (progressive sanctification) and a looking forwards to seeing Him face to face.
I agree that not everyone will be rewarded the same. There are conditional crowns, unwritten personal blessings, ruling and reigning with Christ.
Here's some motivation for the carnal Church of Corinth....2:9

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

I guess they aren't getting it because Enoch was raptured before the flood.