Do you observe the Sabbath?

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Dino246

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Before sin of mankind? What need of shadows and types? All was "light", not shadow.
You are so convinced that everyone else is wrong that you are overstating your own case and stepping into error yourself.

Genesis 1:1-5 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Scripture proves you wrong.
 
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Still on earth !
Yes.

I observe the Sabbath according to the standard of my Father in Heaven not according to the standard of the law.
Therefore, I remain at rest from my work and I walk in the works my Father prepared for me daily. My Father has been at rest from the 6th day so I, too, will remain at rest.

This is the language of the sons of God in the House of God. The carnal and immature cannot receive this.



A big

Amen !
 
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I don't. The world is a 24/7 place these days, there are lots of jobs that need to be performed 24/7. Imagine if all firefighters observed it!
 
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Still on earth !
I don't. The world is a 24/7 place these days, there are lots of jobs that need to be performed 24/7. Imagine if all firefighters observed it!


Be blessed in your rest & worship of God wherever you have to be or may be found!

God is NOT slumbering,neither is his ear to heavy nor his arm to short that he is not ever ready to hear our prayers or receive our praise & worship !
 
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You twist the scriptures
False accusation, just like your forefathers before you did to Jesus. Show where I have twisted any of these scriptures, I cited:

Jesus is the real Israel (Mat. 2:13-15,19-21; Hos. 11:10), the real Adam (1 Cor. 15:45), for whom the sabbath was made (Col 1:16; Mar 2:27), and thus all His true children (Heb 2:13; Isa. 8:8-20), in Him, will do as He does (Luk. 4:14-21), as He asks (Exo 20:6; Jhn. 14:15), and so his disciples do (Rev. 1:10; Isa. 58:13, etc).

Are you saying Jesus is not "Israel"? Then what was Matthew, under inspiration of the Holy Ghost, citing Hosea 11:1 for in relation to Jesus, saying that Jesus was the true fulfillment?

Are you saying the disciples of jesus are not His "children"? Then what was Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, citing Isaiah 8, for in relation to them and Jesus, stating that Jesus has "children", and why would Jesus call His disciples 'little children' on several occasions?

Are you saying Jesus is not the real (last) "Adam"? Then what was Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, doing making a direct link from the first Adam to the last in his epistle to the Corinthians, and what was their point in so doing?

Are you saying that the Sabbath was not made for "the man" in the beginning? Then what wasJesus, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, doing by making such a statement, as recorded by Gospel writer Mark, also under the influence of the Holy Ghost?

Are you saying that the Sabbath was not made for "Jesus" from the beginning? Then what was Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, doing in making a direct link to Jesus as making all things in the beginning, by instruction from the Father, for himself, in his epistle to the Colossians?

Are you saying Jesus, in his entire life on earth, did not keep the Sabbath as created by him and for him, as instructed from the Father? Then what was Jesus, having been anointed with the Holy Ghost just prior, doing by keeping it in the gospel of Luke, as recorded by Luke, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, teaching that doing so, was a fulfillment of the prophet Isaiah, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost?

Are you saying that the 7th day, the sabbath of the LORD, was not the day that God chose in Luke, through Jesus, anointed of the Holy Ghost, to set the captives in sin free from the bondage of sin, thus giving them rest upon the LORD's day of rest?

Are you saying that the discilpes of Jesus are not to follow Jesus in his example of love to God and love to fellow mankind, in keeping the day of God, the 7th day, the sabbath of the LORD, Holy, as Jesus did, who, anointed of the Holy Ghost, always honoured His Father in heaven by it, thereby never sinning once?

Please, answer these questions clearly before all, so that we may know whether if your accusation has any merit, any foundation, any truth to stand upon at all. Be not afraid. Be truthful. Stand in the light and tell us all from the scripture, not from 'you'. I hope, that we all may see what it is that you will present in answer to these specific questions, or if you will resort to more accusations, proving that your father is not who you have said. I will not have proven, you will, by your next reply.
 
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I don't. The world is a 24/7 place these days, there are lots of jobs that need to be performed 24/7. Imagine if all firefighters observed it!
Imagine if we all only understood what the commandment actually says, and not what people vainly imagine it says:

Mar_3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.​
Luk_6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?​
Mat_12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.​
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.​
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:​
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:​
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.​

Was God preserving life or destroying life by making the Sabbath in the beginning?

Do firefighters seek to save life or destroy?

Does the sabbath commandment only deal with a single day, or does it deal with the entirety of the week (all 7 days, and all hours therein)?

So, as Jesus asked, I will "Amen" his question to you:

"I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?"
Be not now shy nor slow in responding, lest others see you in the same light that the pharisees were seen in.
 
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Be blessed in your rest & worship of God wherever you have to be or may be found!
Ah, the similar sentiment of Cain. Cain came to God with how he thought God was to be honoured, worshipped. God will not accept it. God will only accept that which God required.
 
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Yes.

I observe the Sabbath according to the standard of my Father in Heaven not according to the standard of the law.
Therefore, I remain at rest from my work and I walk in the works my Father prepared for me daily. My Father has been at rest from the 6th day so I, too, will remain at rest.

This is the language of the sons of God in the House of God. The carnal and immature cannot receive this.
Oh, there is much I can agree with there, but one thing seems to be lacking:

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.​
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.​
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.​
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.​
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.​
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:​
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.​
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.​
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.​
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.​
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.​
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.​
Heb 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.​

Did God need to rest from sin, from works salvation?

Did God cease from the works that were done on the previous 6 days?

Was it only spiritual and inward, or was there a natural / physical / outward ceasing also?

Can a person truly cease from a sin in mind / heart / inward, and yet not carry it out in the natural / phsyical / outward?

For instance,

Can I cease from murder in my heart / mind / inward, and yet not carry it out in the natural / physical / outward?

If I say I have ceased from sin (muder) in my heart / mind / inward, and yet harm someone unto death in the natural / phsyical / outward, have I really ceased from sin (murder) in my heart / mind, or did I merely deceive myself?

If I say I have ceased from dishonouring my father and mother in my heart, and yet dishonour them by my natural / physical / outward actions or words, have I really ceased from sin (dishonour) to my father and mother, towards God?

Now, if I say I have ceased from my works salvation (sin) in my mind / heart / inward, and yet not obey all that the commandment states in both inward and outward compliance, have I truly rested, or have I deceived myself into thinking I am at rest, when in relaity I am still at my own works salvation, denying the complete rest God designed for me in the inward and outward, in the mind / heart and in the natural / phsyical?

Does the Commandment speak only of the heart, or does it state specificlly the time also and the manner?
 
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Wash, rinse, repeat - more of the same long winded nonsense full of scripture twisting, trickery, deceit, rhetoric and crafty, SDA propaganda.
You continue to accuse, but never demonstrate the accusation to actually be true. The evil wind (spirit) is not coming from me, whose doctrine comes of that Holy wind (Spirit) in the Sanctuary of JEHOVAH (Psa. 77;13), but from somewhere else. A blighted, destroying, desert of a wind (evil spitit) it is too. It seeks to cause a famine in the land for the word of God, for it feeds upon itself, leading people away from God's house, into dry places.
 
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You are so convinced that everyone else is wrong that you are overstating your own case and stepping into error yourself.

Genesis 1:1-5 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Scripture proves you wrong.
I wasn't referring to physical light, nor phsyical shadows. Somehow I think you knew this, and decided to say what you did anyway.
 

Aaron56

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Legalists are driven by the need to hold God accountable. This is the chasm between the spiritual and the carnal.
 
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There is only one sabbath.
God made that for his people who are in his grace.

For me every day is sabbath. I'm retired so I have a great opportunity even more to spend time in the Lord because the Lord's Holy Spirit is in me.
And I do not attend church anymore because it is of late susceptible to corruption by false doctrine. When I am a temple of God I think that's enough. :)

To each their own. God knows our heart. He's not fixated on our calendars.
 

TMS

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And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Was there spiritual darkness in anything that God made?
Was there any sin in the creation?
Was there any need for a saviour or the plan of salvation?

NO..

Satan was rebelling in heaven but that our world was perfect and very good.

The sabbath was part of the perfect world. The sabbath was made holy before sin.

How can it be something that was added because of sin?
 

TMS

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We cannot be judged because we are the very righteousness of God Himself
Please prove that from scripture..
I hope your not presuming this point.

Our righteousness now is in the form of a gift, freely given to us by Jesus, His righteousness. An eternal righteousness
True we are offered the free gift of Jesus's righteousness, and this is how we are able to be saved. We are not worthy through anything we do.

So why keep the sabbath?

Because i love Jesus.

What does it mean to walk with the Lord?

Please show me how the gift of Christ's righteousness is an excuse for me to sin?
 

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Please prove that from scripture..
I hope your not presuming this point.
That is an easy one.

John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Well, I have proven that Christians are not judged.
True we are offered the free gift of Jesus's righteousness, and this is how we are able to be saved. We are not worthy through anything we do.
Correct.
So why keep the sabbath?
You should have said, so why keep the law?
Because i love Jesus.
Did Jesus ask you to place yourself under the law?
What does it mean to walk with the Lord?
To walk in unconditional love for everyone. Which is exactly how Jesus walked.
Please show me how the gift of Christ's righteousness is an excuse for me to sin?
You don't need an excuse to sin, your sin never stops.
 

TMS

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Legalists are driven by the need to hold God accountable. This is the chasm between the spiritual and the carnal.
Am i a legalist because i believe the 4th commandment is Gods will?
Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Jesus said the above.

Am i a legalist if i say...."I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge; because I seek not mine own will, but to do the will of the Father."?

Am i a legalist if God is master of my life?
If i say not my will but thy will be done Lord, am i a legalist?
 
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after all is said and done, the Sabbath hasn’t been abolished or replaced in the New Testament. They still kept talking about it and giving guidance about it. It follows it’s something the earth church still adhered to the Sabbath and there’s proof for that.
 

TMS

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Well, I have proven that Christians are not judged.
Yes the saved pass from judgement because of Christ, the saved are judged as perfect. But how are we judged as saved or not saved?

You say Christians are not judged? It is easy to say your a christian. It is easy to believe in Jesus, it is easy to go to church and say your saved by grace.

The 10 vergins all believed Jesus was coming, but only 5 were saved.

Mat 7: 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

By their fruits...he that doeth the will of my father, not doing iniquity.

You say it is an easy one, but you miss the verses around it.

The justified and saved can't be judged because Jesus has covered them with his righteousness..
But how does God determine who is saved? Faith without works is dead, even the devil believes, and we are told....

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.