666 Mark of the Beast Tech is Ready to be Rolled Out

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Papermonkey

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Wow...don't give up. 3 boys in the furnace didn't. A million or 2 Israelites with mountains on the sides, a sea in front, and an army behind didn't. One little shepherd boy in front of a giant didn't. Don't consider the size of the problem. Consider the greatness of God.
''A million or 2 Israelites with mountains on the sides, a sea in front, and an army behind didn't.''. Didn't they commit suicide?
 

Billyd

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The mark of the beast will be much simpler than any technology man creates. Those who are looking for it in technology, will receive it without hesitation. If you are a child of God, you have nothing to worry about.
 

Talljake

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What good would it do for everyone to have the same number? It’s not the name or number of the beast, it’s ‘the beast’s mark’ of each individual’s name.

Apply some logic.
It's about denying Christ. Satan wants our soul so if we accept him then we are denying Christ. Satan wants you to publicly deny Christ, as Christ wants us to publicly accept him. By taking the number you are accepting satan
 

Papermonkey

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No. They walked through the sea on dry land.
The exodus. I was thinking of Masada. Do we know there were 2 million? Sounds a little high.

They wandered for the period of a generation , 40 years, to reach a place that takes less than a two week walk.
 

iamsoandso

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Yeah you know how you don't get caught by facial recognition? Don't be a criminal?

I was talking to @HealthAndHappiness about the subject of the OP(current technology) when I made that post so I was not meaning it in the context of our favorite political views.

Your response does bring up a question in the spirit of the OP though. In Revelation 13:15 it states that they will make an image and those who do not worship it will be killed. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm

Here's my question for you. If in that day that beast government makes it lawful to kill those who do not worship that image and those who do are suppose to turn them in to be killed will you follow the law if it is your parents,children ect. who do not worship that image?
 

Cameron143

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The exodus. I was thinking of Masada. Do we know there were 2 million? Sounds a little high.

They wandered for the period of a generation , 40 years, to reach a place that takes less than a two week walk.
You can read in Exodus 12:37-38. It speaks of 600,000 men plus children.
Not sure what to make of the number exactly but could be as much as 2 million. Hard to get an exact picture given the vagueness of scripture.
 

Dude653

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I was talking to @HealthAndHappiness about the subject of the OP(current technology) when I made that post so I was not meaning it in the context of our favorite political views.

Your response does bring up a question in the spirit of the OP though. In Revelation 13:15 it states that they will make an image and those who do not worship it will be killed. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm

Here's my question for you. If in that day that beast government makes it lawful to kill those who do not worship that image and those who do are suppose to turn them in to be killed will you follow the law if it is your parents,children ect. who do not worship that image?
Facial recognition technology has been around for decades and it's not the mark of the beast mentioned in the Bible
 

iamsoandso

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Facial recognition technology has been around for decades and it's not the mark of the beast mentioned in the Bible
I never said facial recognition was,,,why did you not anwser the question?
 

Dude653

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Facial recognition technology has been around for decades and it's not the mark of the beast mentioned in the Bible
You can always just pretend to comply.
Like if I lived in a country where it's illegal to not be muslim, I would just pretend to be Muslim
 

iamsoandso

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You can always just pretend to comply.
Like if I lived in a country where it's illegal to not be muslim, I would just pretend to be Muslim

But in that day will you fulfill John 16:2?
 

iamsoandso

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But if you're just pretending to not die then you're not actually worshiping the thing
Where the err will come in is that in the Revelation Jesus said he would write the name of his God on us who overcomes https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/3-12.htm ......AND,,,, it also says that someone else would write an name on those who worship that image. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-16.htm ... and so be sure when you get in that line to have the Lord write his Gods name on you that your not deceived and find yourself thinking that that man of sin is your Lord when he is not. There is the deception in that he will sit in the the Temple of God confessing that he is God and the vast majority believing it to be true will search far and low to find their loved ones and bring them to him that they might not be lost. Where is my son and my daughter? Where have mine parents gone to hide? Why do they forsake God? Shall I find them and bring them forth that my Lord might write his fathers name upon them and live forever?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I was talking to @HealthAndHappiness about the subject of the OP(current technology) when I made that post so I was not meaning it in the context of our favorite political views.

Your response does bring up a question in the spirit of the OP though. In Revelation 13:15 it states that they will make an image and those who do not worship it will be killed. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm

Here's my question for you. If in that day that beast government makes it lawful to kill those who do not worship that image and those who do are suppose to turn them in to be killed will you follow the law if it is your parents,children ect. who do not worship that image?
Here's a recent sample of a pagan idol to the abortion promotor Ruth Ginsburg. These are nothing new. The use of facial recognition tech is not either as Dude stated, since the Chinese people have been enjoying it's protection since the Covid lockdowns following their sealed doors.....again for their "protection." This will teach those "law breakers" in China and Hong Kong won't it?

Pagan idols have been around since Genesis, so using the same "logic" perhaps it's acceptable to the world. A non christian would not perhaps understand the problem that Bible believers have with facial recognition scans, 24/7 surveillance, and tyranny.
 

iamsoandso

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Here's a recent sample of a pagan idol to the abortion promotor Ruth Ginsburg. These are nothing new. The use of facial recognition tech is not either as Dude stated, since the Chinese people have been enjoying it's protection since the Covid lockdowns following their sealed doors.....again for their "protection." This will teach those "law breakers" in China and Hong Kong won't it?

Pagan idols have been around since Genesis, so using the same "logic" perhaps it's acceptable to the world. A non christian would not perhaps understand the problem that Bible believers have with facial recognition scans, 24/7 surveillance, and tyranny.

hmm,let me try my best to see if I can explain what I'm thinking...

First in the title of the OP "666 Mark of the beast Tech is ready to be rolled out" ,,, I agree that the Tech=(technology) is at a point at this time to do many of the things in Scripture surrounding the mark but " think it to be the manner in which it will end up being enforced but not that it is in itself the mark".

To try to explain what I'm meaning without a long post I see no manner of worship as in "worship the image of the beast" Revelation 13:15 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm and neither do I see the things mentioned in Rev.13:15 in that it was given "breath/spirit that it should speak"...

Backing up to Revelation 13:14 it states that those who are deceived (those dwelling on the earth) "to make an image of the beast" that has the wound of the sword and lived"..... now so (those dwelling on the earth who are deceived make an image of the beast(it has breath/spirit and speaks) ,,,,,,,I'm trying to point out who does this and that it has breath/spirit .... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-14.htm

In Revelation 17:8(I will give the whole chapter here) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17.htm and so the beast that John saw at the time(in the year) he received the Revelation was(past tense) in the explanation the angel gave to John(Revelation 17:7) so it had already existed,,received it's deadly wound,,,and was in the Abyss (at the time the Rev. was given to John 2000 years ago),,, and then at a later time is to ascend up out of it(Rev.13:14-15)... What I'm trying to covey is(the angel is setting a marker in time by saying "five were (past tense), one is(present tense to John and the angel at the time John received the Revelation) and the seventh (future to that time) would come and (then) the eighth(was was not yet is,,,see Rev.13:14) ... "The ten kings had received no kingdom as yet" is (another time mark in future tense)....

Now so the mark/image we are looking for existed and received its deadly wound prior to the Revelation being given to John/seven Churches and so cannot be RFID,facial recognition,Catholicism,Islam ect.ect. nor anything that arose in the worlds history after the Revelation was given 2000 years ago why is because it(the beast) existed before John was given the Revelation and had already received it's wound from the sword. Rome existed at that time and was in full power so it had not received an wound and doesn't fit Rev 13:14. Egypt existed,Greece existed,Persia existed,Assyria,Babylon all existed at that time. The beast nation your looking for existed before the time the angel explained this to John in Revelation 17 and had by then received an wound by the sword and those who were deceived made an image of it and gave it breath that it spoke and stood upright like an man after that time. They said "let us make an image of the beast that was,was not yet is"....
 

HealthAndHappiness

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hmm,let me try my best to see if I can explain what I'm thinking...

First in the title of the OP "666 Mark of the beast Tech is ready to be rolled out" ,,, I agree that the Tech=(technology) is at a point at this time to do many of the things in Scripture surrounding the mark but " think it to be the manner in which it will end up being enforced but not that it is in itself the mark".

To try to explain what I'm meaning without a long post I see no manner of worship as in "worship the image of the beast" Revelation 13:15 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm and neither do I see the things mentioned in Rev.13:15 in that it was given "breath/spirit that it should speak"...

Backing up to Revelation 13:14 it states that those who are deceived (those dwelling on the earth) "to make an image of the beast" that has the wound of the sword and lived"..... now so (those dwelling on the earth who are deceived make an image of the beast(it has breath/spirit and speaks) ,,,,,,,I'm trying to point out who does this and that it has breath/spirit .... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-14.htm

In Revelation 17:8(I will give the whole chapter here) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17.htm and so the beast that John saw at the time(in the year) he received the Revelation was(past tense) in the explanation the angel gave to John(Revelation 17:7) so it had already existed,,received it's deadly wound,,,and was in the Abyss (at the time the Rev. was given to John 2000 years ago),,, and then at a later time is to ascend up out of it(Rev.13:14-15)... What I'm trying to covey is(the angel is setting a marker in time by saying "five were (past tense), one is(present tense to John and the angel at the time John received the Revelation) and the seventh (future to that time) would come and (then) the eighth(was was not yet is,,,see Rev.13:14) ... "The ten kings had received no kingdom as yet" is (another time mark in future tense)....

Now so the mark/image we are looking for existed and received its deadly wound prior to the Revelation being given to John/seven Churches and so cannot be RFID,facial recognition,Catholicism,Islam ect.ect. nor anything that arose in the worlds history after the Revelation was given 2000 years ago why is because it(the beast) existed before John was given the Revelation and had already received it's wound from the sword. Rome existed at that time and was in full power so it had not received an wound and doesn't fit Rev 13:14. Egypt existed,Greece existed,Persia existed,Assyria,Babylon all existed at that time. The beast nation your looking for existed before the time the angel explained this to John in Revelation 17 and had by then received an wound by the sword and those who were deceived made an image of it and gave it breath that it spoke and stood upright like an man after that time. They said "let us make an image of the beast that was,was not yet is"....
That takes some time to study the details you gave there. I've speculated what was meant by a couple of those phrases too, ie. Revelation 13:15. What I try to keep in mind when reading prophecy is that there is usually an immediate shadow fulfillment and a later, literal fulfillment.
The videos I posted in the OP aren't necessarily THE Mark. They just happened to be current beast system technologies. I believe that the Beast will be a literal man and that there's also a system at work now that's leading to the climax of the Lord's return and judgements. I do believe that it's ready to be rolled out as far as technologies go. Even Bill Gates has his World Patent 2020060606. Elon has his brain implants. Many have spiritualized it as simply symbolic, but I see no reason to. Even the pagan images are starting to become popular again. You may have seen the obscene MLK phallic idol in the news recently. Yesterday there was a pagan image of Ruth B. Ginsburg that was as satanic as I've ever seen. It's a contemporary trend. I won't pick a date though. This year or next isn't for me to say, but we can sure see the technology being rolled out IMHO. The Chinese social credit score system is their goal for the world.
 

iamsoandso

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That takes some time to study the details you gave there. I've speculated what was meant by a couple of those phrases too, ie. Revelation 13:15. What I try to keep in mind when reading prophecy is that there is usually an immediate shadow fulfillment and a later, literal fulfillment.
The videos I posted in the OP aren't necessarily THE Mark. They just happened to be current beast system technologies. I believe that the Beast will be a literal man and that there's also a system at work now that's leading to the climax of the Lord's return and judgements. I do believe that it's ready to be rolled out as far as technologies go. Even Bill Gates has his World Patent 2020060606. Elon has his brain implants. Many have spiritualized it as simply symbolic, but I see no reason to. Even the pagan images are starting to become popular again. You may have seen the obscene MLK phallic idol in the news recently. Yesterday there was a pagan image of Ruth B. Ginsburg that was as satanic as I've ever seen. It's a contemporary trend. I won't pick a date though. This year or next isn't for me to say, but we can sure see the technology being rolled out IMHO. The Chinese social credit score system is their goal for the world.

Yes indeed I understand the time to study this part,,,me too,lol... think about what I'm saying about this ... "the angel in Revelation 17 marks out present tense timing to John,(resets the prophetic clock) in how he explains this to John by showing who was,was not yet is(past,present and future tense).... I think no wonder though John was told to write https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/1-19.htm the things he had seen (past tense),,,the things that are (present tense) and the things that would take place after (future tense)... lol, the angel ask him why he wondered about it and told him the mystery about it's timing,,, what was,what is and what was to come,,,
 
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The mark of the beast will be a visible mark that all will see.
This will come after the sixth seal earthquake that moves every mountain. Electronic communications will be interrupted and and may completely collapse.
A chip will be of no use.
Ever tried to use your debit card when power was off or a store'a system was down?
This modern technology is about convenience and gathering information which can lead to certain control.
No doubt this is conditioning the lost to accept the mark.
This is why I only use cash. Never use a debit card. Never buy on line. Never use someone's app on my phone.
It is nobody's business what I buy. How much I buy. When I buy it. Where I buy it.
 

Dude653

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Okay so I'm walking down a street one day and a facial recognition camera sees me. So what?
 

iamsoandso

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The mark of the beast will be a visible mark that all will see.
This will come after the sixth seal earthquake that moves every mountain. Electronic communications will be interrupted and and may completely collapse.
A chip will be of no use.
Ever tried to use your debit card when power was off or a store'a system was down?
This modern technology is about convenience and gathering information which can lead to certain control.
No doubt this is conditioning the lost to accept the mark.
This is why I only use cash. Never use a debit card. Never buy on line. Never use someone's app on my phone.
It is nobody's business what I buy. How much I buy. When I buy it. Where I buy it.

Yes the technology(similar to what the OP is meaning) is progressing in a direction that's very concerning. I'm really curious how the different states or Republican verses Democrat will see this. Why is where I live I(Texas) has been all Republican for 30 or more years now but recently they do not accept cash when you try to get your drivers license (last sentence) https://www.dps.texas.gov/news/dps-...ppointments-renewals-and-replacements-offices or then there's the new digital hunting fishing license https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/licenses/tagging-instructions/digitaltags I also took the same approach as you mentioned (no debit card, don't use credit ect.) for years but it's now in Texas at least being phased out and so how to pay ISP,light bill,hto,drivers license ect.