Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

I thought about the book and chapter and verses

Luke 10:38-42

King James Version

38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.

39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.

40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.

41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:

42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Make no mistake, anyone in a Christian discussion forum who repeatedly contradicts the true gospel Christ sealed with his blood is not questioning the member Christians salvation! They're denying it exists as Christ described and affirmed eternal on the cross!

No,I did not make any claim of knowing the person. You're the one making the claim that the quote is false. It's up to you to prove it wasn't said or it was false.

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I'm not sure of people's eternal estates. I cannot see their hearts and anyone's behavior in any given point in time may or may not be reflective of what is to be exemplied by one who walks in grace. But I do know what the scripture says of the faithfulness of God and what being truly loved by God entails.
As long as the wheat grows alongside the tares, we will never be sure of others. But 1 John 5:13 says we can be sure of ourselves and we should all pay heed to the admonition to examine ourselves to see that we are indeed in the faith.
Why even give such admonition if it were not in us to be able to know?

I don’t believe anyone questions what JESUS said,they question the Interpretation of that person’s Interpretation of what JESUS said.

I question you questioning them questioning.

You misrepresent the truth of my post.

I said no pastor on earth would ever say that.
While someone who is a fake and claims to be a pastor would.
And that remains a fact.

You introduced the hearsay regarding a supposed pastor said.....

You have to prove your claim. Telling us where their supposed words can be found thinking we have to then seek out proof of your claim isn't how it works and doesn't suffice.

Cute small white dog

When they claim Jesus never taught eternal salvation, they're making claims against what Jesus said.

Have you noticed though that as they deny the gospel, they never [oint out those scriptures where everything that occurs in our rebirth in Christ are revoked one at a time by God when we choose to no longer be saved?

John 10:27-28

Think about what you just said

Nothing can seperate us

But we can.

That is a contradiction. I pray you see this major contradiction you have imposed. if we can seperate us from the love of God. then when the bible says nothing can. it is in error

We are not of them. we are the true children of God.. They are people who are not true children.. They may have walked with us. and fellowshiped with us. But they were nto Gods children

What happens when a person starts to fellowship with Gods people. and are exposed to the bible? They escape the pollusions of the world..

Now if they do not actually repent and come to christ. They will never be saved,, and in the end, it will be worse for them. why? Because they had the truth in their hands, and because of pride did not act on it

Work out your salvation. They are already saved. Paul is telling them to take the salvation you have and work it out use it.. As we are lights who shine.. Paul worried every day he would do something that would make him unqualified to teach. people call him a hypocrite. that is the fear. Paul never feared loss of salvation. He said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Why would a person go back to the law UNLESS their true faith was in the law? Can one be saved by the law??
I worry about this. Not about losing salvation thought. Nothing can seperate me, not even myself.


Unqualified to preach. Not unqualified to earn salvation. YOU CAN'T EARN SALVATION...
yep. is your faith real. or is it mere belief? are you part of us. or will you walk away provin gyou were never of us (1 john 3)
yea. I try to turn sinners away

A child of God is not a sinner.. Or did you not know that?


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Then you do not believe in eternal security or eternal life. You believe in conditional life. Why do you think you can meet the standard and save yourself?

3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine

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this is about bearing fruit. not being saved,,, Learn the difference please. A child can bear fruit. a non child can not.

Not every child will bear much fruit.. sadly. some will no9t produce much at all. but they are still children.

context is jews vs gentiles.. Paul is warnin the gentiles. just as the jews were cut off. the gentiles cna be cut off also. It is not talking about individuals.
be tempted of what Sin?

Are we under law or under grace??

if sin can separate us we are under law. and no one will get to heaven

Remain, stand, hold fast, continue. You cannot ignore these verses. OSAS is only true in the sense that not external force can keep you from the love of God. That does not mean you cannot walk away from salvation.

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Your right, I can't ignore them./ But I can translate them correctly. and not cause the word of God to contradict.

You want to earn your way to heaven. Good luck with that

As for me. I will keep my eye on Christ. knowing I do not deserve his love, and never will

Is that your dog
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Chris Tomlin - How Great Is Our God (Live In Nashville 2022)

Those who deny Christ's gospel and instead live their own worldly works based ideology can still be of service. They'll do good deeds for others thinking that affords a running tally that at the end of their life adds up to their being allowed into heaven for a little while.
That would be a time limit afforded those who also insist the soul isn't eternal.
What happens to them after that soul expiration date? Who cares.

Meanwhile here on earth people will benefit from the laborers who work to achieve heaven.
That's a good thing that will come from a false doctrine.

See? God uses all things for the glory of his truth. Even false teachers who deny his will and gospel word.

Is that a Spitz?
I adore the poodle mix breeds.

The nay sayers yes, but it is also used as an argument for eternal security and I do not see it in scripture.

We are eternally secure because God says so.

If people fall away, they fall away, it does not mean they are not still saved, or they had mere belief, we cannot know this to be true one way or another.

We do know God is true to His word, those that are His, He keeps even if they cannot show it to the outside world for whatever reason.

Can we with certainty state this is mere belief or the lack of discipleship? A new life started.

Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil, but when the sun rose they were scorched.