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“God is going to sort us all out in the end. And I hope that is right cause I don't want any person I know judging me or you or any of your friends or my friends. And I definitely don't want my enemies judging me!!!! And I am supposed to pray for them.>>>lol>>>>Arrrrgh”
What are you talking about ? Jesus is your judge and mine along with every creature in heaven or earth
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
you have to do that as well as me and everyone else, he’s already spoken his judgement and said believe and be saved
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
“But the LORD shall endure for ever: He hath prepared his throne for judgment. And he shall judge the world in righteousness, He shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.”
Psalm 9:7-8 KJV
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
Acts 17:30-31
Your judge is Jesus and my judge and thier judge that’s why we just share the gospel with people the gospel is gods everlasting judgement
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
his words can save us if we hear and believe
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
Or judge us if we reject him and refuse to hear his word
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
you have the same judge as everyone he’s the same one that died for our sins purchasing us from sin and death
you probably should embrace Gods judgement in Christ it’s salvation
some thing sure about God is that he will always and forever honor what he himself has said
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
1 Peter 1:23-25 KJV
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
pretty basic belief people should just hear and believe the gospel of Matthew , mark , Luke and John , and then learn from the epistles and prophets his witnesses
either way though you and I both have to appear before Jesus Christ for our judgement like everyone in existance does
What are you talking about ? Jesus is your judge and mine along with every creature in heaven or earth
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
you have to do that as well as me and everyone else, he’s already spoken his judgement and said believe and be saved
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
“But the LORD shall endure for ever: He hath prepared his throne for judgment. And he shall judge the world in righteousness, He shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.”
Psalm 9:7-8 KJV
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
Acts 17:30-31
Your judge is Jesus and my judge and thier judge that’s why we just share the gospel with people the gospel is gods everlasting judgement
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
his words can save us if we hear and believe
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
Or judge us if we reject him and refuse to hear his word
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
you have the same judge as everyone he’s the same one that died for our sins purchasing us from sin and death
you probably should embrace Gods judgement in Christ it’s salvation
some thing sure about God is that he will always and forever honor what he himself has said
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 KJV
being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
1 Peter 1:23-25 KJV
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
pretty basic belief people should just hear and believe the gospel of Matthew , mark , Luke and John , and then learn from the epistles and prophets his witnesses
either way though you and I both have to appear before Jesus Christ for our judgement like everyone in existance does
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Luke 17:1
“Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!”
Romans 9:
3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. 6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Do you still believe that every Jew ever born will be saved?
“Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!”
Romans 9:
3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. 6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Do you still believe that every Jew ever born will be saved?
Well at least it’s too late for them to keep living on earth and being a part of the natural worlds tribulation
We all Have to die
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”
Hebrews 9:27 KJV
except for this final generation
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.”
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 KJV
But remember Jesus died and rose so he could be the lord of both the living and the dead
He went into death and is able to deliver them out of it even who had died before
“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
Matthew 27:52-53 KJV
What I was saying is the generations th at have already passed they lived and died and now await the same judgement we all face but they aren’t going to re appear on earth and suddenly accept Christ those that rejected him rejected him but even today many Israelites convert to Christianity as many gentiles do
Its perpetual until the end of the world anyone can believe and be saved when God removed Moses law it removed the veil that blinded them but many Jew and gentile still put on that blindfold
“but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:14-15 KJV
When we can’t see Jesus for the law it’s because we’re wearing the blindfold of Moses law thinking it’s the looking glass Israel’s blindness was the law ordained of angels and mediated by Moses
We all Have to die
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”
Hebrews 9:27 KJV
except for this final generation
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.”
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 KJV
But remember Jesus died and rose so he could be the lord of both the living and the dead
He went into death and is able to deliver them out of it even who had died before
“and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
Matthew 27:52-53 KJV
What I was saying is the generations th at have already passed they lived and died and now await the same judgement we all face but they aren’t going to re appear on earth and suddenly accept Christ those that rejected him rejected him but even today many Israelites convert to Christianity as many gentiles do
Its perpetual until the end of the world anyone can believe and be saved when God removed Moses law it removed the veil that blinded them but many Jew and gentile still put on that blindfold
“but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:14-15 KJV
When we can’t see Jesus for the law it’s because we’re wearing the blindfold of Moses law thinking it’s the looking glass Israel’s blindness was the law ordained of angels and mediated by Moses
Not unless "the genealogies" have been 'recorded all along' for proof.
Nevertheless, God's Knows who the 144,000 "Sealed Jews" will be, after
The Body Of Christ Departs earth, and the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" begins:
"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand." (Rev 7:4-8)
Then "the blindness will be lifted," Correct?
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!
Nevertheless, God's Knows who the 144,000 "Sealed Jews" will be, after
The Body Of Christ Departs earth, and the "Time of Jacob's Trouble" begins:
"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand.
Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand." (Rev 7:4-8)
Then "the blindness will be lifted," Correct?
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!
Matthew 24 we understand Followers of Christ, Christians, were called Judeans.
Church Fathers record that all Judeans, Followers of Christ, Christians, escaped the 70 AD Destruction because they did obey Christ and headed to the mountains and hid themselves.
These Judeans were from the Tribes, sons of Jacob.
So there's indeed existing Lineages today. But as converts of Christ, they probably kept that knowledge on the down low.
Church Fathers record that all Judeans, Followers of Christ, Christians, escaped the 70 AD Destruction because they did obey Christ and headed to the mountains and hid themselves.
These Judeans were from the Tribes, sons of Jacob.
So there's indeed existing Lineages today. But as converts of Christ, they probably kept that knowledge on the down low.
