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Roughsoul1991

Roughsoul1991

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(You do not know God because you do not seek God. Without faith in Jesus, you are still dead in your sins. All righteous acts are seen as filthy rags if done without the atonement and covering of Christ.)

Isaiah 55:7 English Standard Version
7 let the wicked forsake his way,
and the unrighteous man his thoughts;
let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him,
and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

(God can be as close as your beating heart within but only once you turn to the Lord.)

Proverbs 15:29 English Standard Version
29 The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.

(I can recall only two accounts in the Bible where God responded to an unbeliever. God as a righteous holy being purposely distances Himself from sin.)

Revelation 3:15-16 English Standard Version
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.

(God doesn't accept halfway as He desires full surrender to Him. Only then will you begin to truly experience God. Only then will the veil be torn that gives you a direct line to God without the separation of sin. Only then as you operate in the will of God, will He 100% hear your prayers.)

John 9:31 English Standard Version
We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.

(Two requirements for God to listen to us. We must be a worshiper of Him and do the will of God that is written in the Bible for all Christians.)

Jeremiah 29:13 English Standard Version
13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

(God challenges the sinner to seek and they will find Him. A seeking that requires the mind, heart, and soul. All in a complete surrender type of seeking. One may ask where do I seek? The mountains? A monastery? Meditation of the mind? No. It is as simple as seeking Jesus.)

Colossians 1:15 English Standard Version
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

(Jesus Christ is the image of the spiritual immaterial God that most think of when we think of God. We seek God by seeking Jesus. We learn the characteristics of God through the Old and New Testaments of scripture. Especially the New Testament as we see the personhood of Jesus. We see God’s incarnation in the flesh provide us with a God who can relate to the humanness of humanity. God became a personal God who dealt with human emotions, human pain, human fears, and worries. But He provided an example for us all in a personal way. Seek Him today, do not just stand from afar, knock and the door shall be opened to the experience of a true relationship with God. If you seek to have this type of relationship but need further guidance please reach out and I will help you.)
 
Magenta

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Roughsoul1991 said:
Isaiah 55:7 English Standard Version
7 let the wicked forsake his way,
and the unrighteous man his thoughts;
let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him,
and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
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from Deuteronomy 4 and Isaiah 55
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Mem

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Roughsoul1991 said:
(God doesn't accept halfway as He desires full surrender to Him. Only then will you begin to truly experience God. Only then will the veil be torn that gives you a direct line to God without the separation of sin. Only then as you operate in the will of God, will He 100% hear your prayers.)
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When you "search for Him with all your heart," means all the good, the bad, and the ugly. That is an "unveiled face," no pretenses of "okay, there's no sin now, we're all good, right?" If the veil was the separation between the unclean and God, and it was torn at his death then how can we "sew it back up" again?
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
You do not know God because you do not seek God. Without faith in Jesus, you are still dead in your sins
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Dead men cant seek anything.

Roughsoul1991 said:
God can be as close as your beating heart within but only once you turn to the Lord.)
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I think God being close is what converts a person.

Roughsoul1991 said:
God doesn't accept halfway as He desires full surrender to Him. Only then will you begin to truly experience God. Only then will the veil be torn that gives you a direct line to God without the separation of sin. Only then as you operate in the will of God, will He 100% hear your prayers
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Sanctification is a life long process.

Roughsoul1991 said:
God challenges the sinner to seek and they will find Him. A seeking that requires the mind, heart, and soul. All in a complete surrender type of seeking. One may ask where do I seek? The mountains? A monastery? Meditation of the mind? No. It is as simple as seeking Jesus.)
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In that passage in Jeremiah, He isnt admonishing the lost or sinners. He is admonishing those in covenant with Him. This is more a directive for the Christian to seek God.
 
Roughsoul1991

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Mem said:
When you "search for Him with all your heart," means all the good, the bad, and the ugly. That is an "unveiled face," no pretenses of "okay, there's no sin now, we're all good, right?" If the veil was the separation between the unclean and God, and it was torn at his death then how can we "sew it back up" again?
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Look at salvation.

The way of salvation was brought through the cross and resurrection.

But does everyone obtain salvation?

No.

There is a response required.

The veil was indeed torn in the physical temple as an example. But that relationship can only occur for the one who puts their faith in Jesus Christ.
 
Roughsoul1991

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Locoponydirtman said:
Dead men cant seek anything.


I think God being close is what converts a person.


Sanctification is a life long process.


In that passage in Jeremiah, He isnt admonishing the lost or sinners. He is admonishing those in covenant with Him. This is more a directive for the Christian to seek God.
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Dead men cant seek anything.
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Physically dead I agree. But when God calls for the wicked to turn to Him. It is on them a choice.

I think God being close is what converts a person.
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That is only half of it. If that was the whole story then all would convert.


Sanctification is a life long process.
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Agree.


In that passage in Jeremiah, He isnt admonishing the lost or sinners. He is admonishing those in covenant with Him. This is more a directive for the Christian to seek God.
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Actually the Christian was not a reality in Jeremiah's day.

“Let the wicked forsake his way,
and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the Lord.”

This quote is directly speaking to the wicked.
 
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You are correct, many don't seek God. Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you shall find, unfortunately many don't knock or seek because they are satisfied with the things the world offers them.....power/materialism/sex/etc. There is no place in their lives for God, and they prefer the darkness to the light. Sad but true.

John 3:19

This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
 
Pilgrimshope

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Roughsoul1991 said:
(You do not know God because you do not seek God. Without faith in Jesus, you are still dead in your sins. All righteous acts are seen as filthy rags if done without the atonement and covering of Christ.)

Isaiah 55:7 English Standard Version
7 let the wicked forsake his way,
and the unrighteous man his thoughts;
let him return to the Lord, that he may have compassion on him,
and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

(God can be as close as your beating heart within but only once you turn to the Lord.)

Proverbs 15:29 English Standard Version
29 The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.

(I can recall only two accounts in the Bible where God responded to an unbeliever. God as a righteous holy being purposely distances Himself from sin.)

Revelation 3:15-16 English Standard Version
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.

(God doesn't accept halfway as He desires full surrender to Him. Only then will you begin to truly experience God. Only then will the veil be torn that gives you a direct line to God without the separation of sin. Only then as you operate in the will of God, will He 100% hear your prayers.)

John 9:31 English Standard Version
We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.

(Two requirements for God to listen to us. We must be a worshiper of Him and do the will of God that is written in the Bible for all Christians.)

Jeremiah 29:13 English Standard Version
13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.

(God challenges the sinner to seek and they will find Him. A seeking that requires the mind, heart, and soul. All in a complete surrender type of seeking. One may ask where do I seek? The mountains? A monastery? Meditation of the mind? No. It is as simple as seeking Jesus.)

Colossians 1:15 English Standard Version
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

(Jesus Christ is the image of the spiritual immaterial God that most think of when we think of God. We seek God by seeking Jesus. We learn the characteristics of God through the Old and New Testaments of scripture. Especially the New Testament as we see the personhood of Jesus. We see God’s incarnation in the flesh provide us with a God who can relate to the humanness of humanity. God became a personal God who dealt with human emotions, human pain, human fears, and worries. But He provided an example for us all in a personal way. Seek Him today, do not just stand from afar, knock and the door shall be opened to the experience of a true relationship with God. If you seek to have this type of relationship but need further guidance please reach out and I will help you.)
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“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:24-28, 30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Roughsoul1991

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arthurfleminger said:
You are correct, many don't seek God. Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you shall find, unfortunately many don't knock or seek because they are satisfied with the things the world offers them.....power/materialism/sex/etc. There is no place in their lives for God, and they prefer the darkness to the light. Sad but true.

John 3:19

This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
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God made it as easy as you can get by the new covenant but Satan does a wonderful job promoting deception even to the point calling what is good evil and evil good.
 
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Men by nature dont seek God Rom 3:11

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Ps 10:4

The wicked[all by nature], through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

Ps 14:1-2


2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

It is God that comes to man, and not man to God. God is not the one who is lost. In regards to ‘seeking’, the Bible teaches that it is not man that seeks after God (Rom. 3:11) but it is God Who seeks after man Ezek. 34:11,12, He is the Shepherd Who seeks after His lost sheep and finds them

11 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Also realize its limited to His Sheep Jn 10 for whom He seeks the lost and not all mankind !
 
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