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notonmywatch

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MessengerofTruth said:
I am sorry for all of the trouble, but I do believe it is good to have this out in the open for awareness and accountability.
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I'm curious about something. Did you go to Magenta about this first, one on one, like the Lord commands us to, and then bring two or three other witnesses before bringing "this out in the open" or before the church? If you didn't, then you should have. The way that this went down, from what I've seen, resembled a public witch burning more than a private attempt at reconciliation. That might sound harsh, but you might want to try a different approach in the future.
 
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notonmywatch said:
I'm curious about something. Did you go to Magenta about this first, one on one, like the Lord commands us to, and then bring two or three other witnesses before bringing "this out in the open" or before the church? If you didn't, then you should have. The way that this went down, from what I've seen, resembled a public witch burning more than a private attempt at reconciliation. That might sound harsh, but you might want to try a different approach in the future.
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Yes, I quite agree. I do apologize for the trouble.
Ashamedly, I was afraid of a confrontation such as this.
I am seeking the LORD for His grace and wisdom should any situation arise in the future.
I appreciate your input on this matter, Thank you. :)
 
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Yes, I quite agree. I do apologize for the trouble.
Ashamedly, I was afraid of a confrontation such as this.
I am seeking the LORD for His grace and wisdom should any situation arise in the future.
I appreciate your input on this matter, Thank you. :)
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You're welcome.

If it's any consolation, then I've done things in the wrong order myself many times in the past. I've found, over the years, that the truths that I'm the most established in presently are directly related to the things that I previously screwed up the most in the past. Thank God for repentance.
 
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I would prefer a prairie dog that is little more modest, but I also want one that is worshipping the Lord, mine is more like David.
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I used to have two prairy dogs that would "praise the Lord" like that. They had around half a dozen vocalizations and enjoy being petted as much as any canine dogs. We enjoyed each other's company for years; so did others.
 
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I have noticed artwork featuring mythological creatures that I'm not sure people realize were part of the preflood world when Fallen Angels corrupted all flesh. This grave sin is happening again in the gene modification and the creation of chimeras.
I do not want to come across as hyper-critical. I believe that it will soon become more evident to those that are watchful just how evil this is.
There are also images I've seen that display faces with one eye covered. You only have to look up Images of one eye symbolism and Illuminati. It may seem that this is nit-picky, but I have researched some of this and it is a very well-known fact that displaying one eye signifies an allegiance with luciferian agendas.
I know that many people may not be aware of this. I just want to be faithful to make people aware and watchful.
As far as the New Age, it is subtle, but I encourage those of you that have a love of the Truth to research new age images and also the general idea of the New Age movement. I have found numerous times that I have met someone that seems like a Christian but, after some pointed questions find out that they hold a New Age belief system and not much resembling biblical Christianity.
Remember that Jesus warned that even the elect could be deceived if it were possible.
I hope this makes it clearer. I hope that we will all seek discernment and be watchful to warn brothers and sisters.
Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. Those that follow Him are learning to be like Him because they are beholding Him. They will exhibit Humility, Love for Truth, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, and Self Control, even if they hear something that their flesh doesn't particularly like. I desire to minister to the Body of Christ to see it built up and prepared for the onslaught of deception that is already upon us. Hope this helps.
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The illuminati doesn't exist
 
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I don't know if I agree with the premise that we are to fight evil.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

We are to pray about it: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:

We are the Lord's witnesses and He testifies concerning evil -- The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

However, the Lord didn't pray that we would "fight" evil but be kept from it.

I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

In Romans we are told to abhor that which is evil.

I guess the closes thing that we are told about fighting evil is to "overcome evil with good" in Romans.

We are also told that God is the one who will execute wrath against those that do evil, not us.

Also in Romans Paul says he would have us to be wise concerning that which is good and simple concerning evil.

However, on the other hand we are told to beware of evil workers.

In 1Peter we are told that it is the Lord who is against them that do evil.

In conclusion I think the word "fight" is misleading. Pray to be delivered from evil, abhor evil, and to become wise concerning that which is good and then to overcome evil with good.

But you don't have to know evil in depth, it is perfectly ok to be simple concerning evil. The Lord is the one who is against evil workers, and God is the one who will repay.

So then if you change the word "fight" evil with "overcome" evil I think this would be much less prone to misunderstandings.

Also the man who made his dwelling among the tombs and had 2,000 demons kicked out of him, the Lord told him to share his testimony about what great things the Lord had done for him, so this may be along those lines.
 
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I've listened to some interesting prophesy club speakers. For instance, Fritz Springmeyer visited some Illuminati strongholds in Europe and was a historian on the subject. One more thing I just want to correct concerning this gentleman as well as Fritz's faith, is that the object of their faith is self. They mixed Christ into that, but still trusting in themselves. For instance, at the 28:30 mark he said that he" knelt down at the foot of his bed and gave his life to Jesus Christ."

Any problem with that"salvation testimony?"
The rest of his talk may be true, but the most important part at that point I have issues with, probably because I heard it from so many Preachers.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
I've listened to some interesting prophesy club speakers. For instance, Fritz Springmeyer visited some Illuminati strongholds in Europe and was a historian on the subject. One more thing I just want to correct concerning this gentleman as well as Fritz's faith, is that the object of their faith is self. They mixed Christ into that, but still trusting in themselves. For instance, at the 28:30 mark he said that he" knelt down at the foot of his bed and gave his life to Jesus Christ."

Any problem with that"salvation testimony?"
The rest of his talk may be true, but the most important part at that point I have issues with, probably because I heard it from so many Preachers.
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I understand what you are saying, I try to think that possibly they are so steeped in the mainstream that they use that jargon. I assume that they mean that they surrendered to the Lordship of Christ unless I see error in their walk or doctrine. But, I Know that you can almost not be too careful these days.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
I've listened to some interesting prophesy club speakers. For instance, Fritz Springmeyer visited some Illuminati strongholds in Europe and was a historian on the subject. One more thing I just want to correct concerning this gentleman as well as Fritz's faith, is that the object of their faith is self. They mixed Christ into that, but still trusting in themselves. For instance, at the 28:30 mark he said that he" knelt down at the foot of his bed and gave his life to Jesus Christ."

Any problem with that"salvation testimony?"
The rest of his talk may be true, but the most important part at that point I have issues with, probably because I heard it from so many Preachers.
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I thought the most important part was the woman at the bank writing on the check that he had sent to the church of Satan that "she would be praying for him" and immediately following that everything begins to fall apart. I have heard this testimony from very many people that these Satanists hate the prayers of the saints and that is the one thing they fear.
 
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I thought the most important part was the woman at the bank writing on the check that he had sent to the church of Satan that "she would be praying for him" and immediately following that everything begins to fall apart. I have heard this testimony from very many people that these Satanists hate the prayers of the saints and that is the one thing they fear.
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Interesting that you would bring that up... My brother is dealing with that very thing at this very moment! Please pray for him.
 
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I thought the most important part was the woman at the bank writing on the check that he had sent to the church of Satan that "she would be praying for him" and immediately following that everything begins to fall apart. I have heard this testimony from very many people that these Satanists hate the prayers of the saints and that is the one thing they fear.
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It's not a reflection on your post to define the Illuminati organization. I agree with their existence and was convinced from a baby believer. It's just something for us all to keep in mind if/ when even I post something on a non salvation topic. I brought it up in case someone may watch it all and have another false salvation testimony reinforced.
He said that he himself gave his life, whereas Jesus gave His own life a ransom for us. " God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "

He got the gospel backwards.
 
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It's not a reflection on your post to define the Illuminati organization. I agree with their existence and was convinced from a baby believer. It's just something for us all to keep in mind if/ when even I post something on a non salvation topic. I brought it up in case someone may watch it all and have another false salvation testimony reinforced.
He said that he himself gave his life, whereas Jesus gave His own life a ransom for us. " God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "

He got the gospel backwards.
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please pray for my brother and his stepson, There is something serious going on right now.
 
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It's not a reflection on your post to define the Illuminati organization. I agree with their existence and was convinced from a baby believer. It's just something for us all to keep in mind if/ when even I post something on a non salvation topic. I brought it up in case someone may watch it all and have another false salvation testimony reinforced.
He said that he himself gave his life, whereas Jesus gave His own life a ransom for us. " God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. "

He got the gospel backwards.
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I don't think our doctrinal understanding of salvation is an essential requirement for someone to get saved. I first prayed to the Lord when I was 12/13 (around my birthday). I didn't know anything. However, I got on my knees, prayed to the Lord Jesus. That in itself was a repentance.

I have heard many salvation experiences and it seems none of them were like mine.

What I do know is that the demons and evil spirits cannot refer to Jesus as Lord and to the blood of Jesus. You can get FreeMason pastors talking about God, higher power, being forgiven, and all that. But this brother began by clearly referring to Jesus Christ as Lord and to His blood as washing away our sins.
 
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please pray for my brother and his stepson, There is something serious going on right now.
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Lord Jesus, we pray for these two,
Shake them awake. Bind the spirits of darkness that surround them, loose the word of truth into their spirit. May they repent and be baptized. Open their eyes and ears that they repent for the kingdom of the heavens which is at hand. Call them to repentance. Soften their heart that they would believe the gospel and that they would receive grace. Lord, give them the clear word that unless they repent they will likewise perish. I pray they would be converted, their sins would be blotted out and times of refreshing would come. Lord have mercy on them and give them repentance that they would acknowledge the truth. I pray they would not be deceived by the great deception. Give them godly sorrow that works repentance.

All these many things we ask in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ who shed His blood so that we could enter the Holy of Holies and approach the throne of grace. Amen.
 
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I understand what you are saying, I try to think that possibly they are so steeped in the mainstream that they use that jargon. I assume that they mean that they surrendered to the Lordship of Christ unless I see error in their walk or doctrine. But, I Know that you can almost not be too careful these days.
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The problem I have from the time I got saved is that nearly all TV Preachers teach a works based salvation. This guy is highly knowledgeable about a somewhat esoteric topic with most people, then he describes that he is not saved. He described the exact opposite of the gospel. The crowd gave their approval, but the Bible says, " Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
Acts 16:31

Jesus said, "For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."

Mark 20:45

It took the sinless Sacrifice to pay for the sins of us sinners. He was the one acceptable sacrifice that was well pleasing to the Father. The sinner preacher is not an acceptable sacrifice and resembles the fruit that Cane brought before the Lord. Those were his own achievements and represented his own good works.
 
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1. He said "we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony" -- I agree with that, so as disturbing as his testimony was I was willing to listen.

2. He said he came through a great deal of darkness into the light of Jesus Christ and refers to Jesus 8 times to open up this testimony.

3. He makes a strong testimony that the Bible is the truth by which everything else must be measured.

So this is a disturbing testimony and I certainly would not encourage anyone to hear this if they are not interested in the topic and were not first advised that this person claims to have been saved from witchcraft. But at the same time his testimony clearly proclaims that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh and that He is the way, the truth and the life and that there is no other way to God the Father.
 
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This just came to mind @MessengerofTruth Truth,

"And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him."

Our Lord knows the specific needs and has heard our petitions. If they will/ have believed entirely on the Son of God, they have the greatest gift and the answer to their other urgent need too. Please keep me posted so I will continue praying until that's resolved .
 
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