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Snacks

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I'm not denying the statistics because statistics don't lie but it's a non sequitur because it doesn't speak for the thousands if not millions of African Americans who don't commit crimes and like to celebrate their African heritage
The fact that you even felt the need to mention it is suspect like their cultural holiday is somehow inferior to your non-biblical pagan holiday
If you go back far enough, everybody is from Africa
If everyone’s from Africa then I’m not racist. Thanks for proving my point.
 

Dude653

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If everyone’s from Africa then I’m not racist. Thanks for proving my point.
Your racist for 💩ing on someone's culture
Here's why your statistics are irrelevant
Wow it is indeed true that most violent crime is committed by African Americans, most African Americans are not committing crimes
Just like while it's true that most basketball players are african-americans, most African-Americans are not basketball players
So it's irrelevant
You're not the r brightest crayon in the box
 

Snacks

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Your racist for 💩ing on someone's culture
Here's why your statistics are irrelevant
Wow it is indeed true that most violent crime is committed by African Americans, most African Americans are not committing crimes
Just like while it's true that most basketball players are african-americans, most African-Americans are not basketball players
So it's irrelevant
You're not the r brightest crayon in the box
The fact that you equate black people with basketball shows you’re a disgusting racist. You’re sickening.
 

Papermonkey

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I think a long time ago there was a meeting of the minds, shortly after we were the foremost founding member nation of the Union of Nations.
America, inventors of the most formidable weapon, an earth killer, the nutron or nuclear bomb, would command the lead for a number of generations in all manner of national politics.
I. E education, economics, and so on.
As would be natural when the sole controller of such a weapon.

Then, as would be expected, ''spies'' from competitor nations would arrive at their own capacity to nuke the world. This would them generate the natural next step of Axis and Allies. A world further divided as per usual.

Then after a time America would slowly relinquish her high seat and let her people exchange their place with those lesser nations. Education, economics, and so forth.

The ebb and flow of power balancing that divides the world from the roots up.

In order to achieve this retreat the fabric of Americans had to be made threadbare. A people use to greatness aren't going to settle for regression lightly.

So the moral fabric that was the glue that held us together for over a century had to be compromised.
Whereas the people before thought themselves concomitant in their governance, now they had to be persuaded toward what is today's nanny state syndrome.
I.E ignore governments agents ,manufacturing of a socioeconomic deficit so as to accept and concede the fall is our fault and responsibility. And allow government expansionism under the guise of ''fixing the problem''. (That they manufactured to that end. Yet, most of us ignore this)

Allow that dynamic to grow exponentially and mature every decade to a worse scenario.
Example:The 50's evolved into the free love culture of the 60's. Involving change in every facit of American culture.
Faith wise, the church of Satan published a Bible. A wholly plagiarized amalgum of three different authors, all combined into a time that directly intended to offend the largely Christian faith foundation of America.
Introduce psychedelic drugs into the youth culture. Legal at first. A mind control experiment initiated by governments alphabet entities;CIA, etc....

Basically shake the very foundations of culture formerly known by the now aging generation. Which induces fear in them of the new young acting out generation that ignores the former moral codes of their parents.

After this, it snowballs. Self gratification, materialism, Satanism, for all that means, which is exploiting the carnal nature.

Then after a few decades of, ''if it feels good do it'', insure there's no return to the righteous moral fabric of old that now lays in tatters by injecting a victim nomenclature into society. I.E. Politically Correct verbiage. Which incites further de-Evolution of morality by injecting a prohibition against right language and thought, under the auspices of this being a proper conduct to insure the free love and thought platform seeded in the 60's now mushrooms into tolerance for all things except objection to that degradation slide of society. Disguised of course as hyper mannerism.

I.E the idea you can't say that! Because someone may be offended.
This naturally impacts and limits free thought. Because a people prosecuted for speaking freely against the fall that is inherent in carnal free expression are going to be programmed to limit their thought processes regarding such things, out of fear of persecution, because people typically think before they speak.

Persecute, as example, a person who disagrees Transsexuality is normal by threatening their capacity to earn a living.
As a consequence that victim will alter their opinion, at least in daring to be open about it, because they need to eat.

Silence equals complicity. And as a consequence allows what was formerly intolerable to become tolerable when financial security is at stake.

Basically America is now living the fall out of the old parable of the king and the poisoned well.

The Internet insures the virus spreads world wide at a far faster rate than would have been possible without it.

Just my view. But, you asked. 😉
 

Dude653

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The fact that you equate black people with basketball shows you’re a disgusting racist. You’re sickening.
You're an idiot
That wasn't my point and you know it
So let's try this again. I know statistically most violent crimes are committed by African Americans but most African Americans are not committing crimes
Most professional basketball players happen to be african-american.
But most African-Americans are not basketball players.
That's why you're crime statistics are irrelevant and have nothing to do with them wanting to celebrate their heritage through Kwanzaa
 

Cameron143

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I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm pretty sure the way to try again might be somewhat hindered by beginning with "You're a racist " or "You're an idiot ".

Proverbs 15:1...A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
 

Dude653

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So if you're going to say I'm associating black people with basketball which is not what I'm doing, I could use that same argument against you and say you're associating black people with crime
You're really not very at debating
 

Papermonkey

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I'm no expert on the subject, but I'm pretty sure the way to try again might be somewhat hindered by beginning with "You're a racist " or "You're an idiot ".

Proverbs 15:1...A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.
Looks like Mr. Snacks is achieving his objective. 😞
 

Dude653

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The first people on Earth were black. Black people built the pyramids, an engineering fee that people have still yet to be able to replicate
One of the most brilliant chess champions in the world is in Nigerian kid.
Albino stretch of the imagination am I saying that black people are only good for playing basketball. You are straw
Manning my argument
You were butt hurt because some people are celebrating Kwanzaa instead of Christmas and when I called you on it you were trying to project your own racism onto me
 

Cameron143

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Precisely. Yet in the dance only one leads.
People are responsible for their own behavior. Just because people are offensive doesn't mean you have to take offense. Someone isn't exonerated for poor behavior because of the order of their behavior.
The problem with an eye for an eye mentality is that you only end up with alot of people wearing patches.
 

Papermonkey

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People are responsible for their own behavior. Just because people are offensive doesn't mean you have to take offense. Someone isn't exonerated for poor behavior because of the order of their behavior.
The problem with an eye for an eye mentality is that you only end up with alot of people wearing patches.
You miss my point. But thanks for reiterating yours.
 

Dude653

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Okay let's recap. For some reason he felt the need to complain because some people are celebrating Kwanzaa instead of Christmas.
Then I explained to that Kwanzaa is just a celebration of African heritage.
Then he spewed off a bunch of crime statistics as if that somehow invalidates a holiday about African heritage
Then I used an analogy to show why his crime statistics are irrelevant because most black people are productive citizens and are not committing crimes
Then he tried to straw man me and say I'm saying black people are only good for playing basketball
 

Eli1

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[Reposted with typo fixes]
I think a long time ago there was a meeting of the minds, shortly after we were the foremost founding member nation of the Union of Nations.
America, inventors of the most formidable weapon, an earth killer, the nutron or nuclear bomb, would command the lead for a number of generations in all manner of national politics.
I. E education, economics, and so on.
As would be natural when the sole controller of such a weapon.

Then, as would be expected, ''spies'' from competitor nations would arrive at their own capacity to nuke the world. This would them generate the natural next step of Axis and Allies. A world further divided as per usual.

Then after a time America would slowly relinquish her high seat and let her people exchange their place with those lesser nations. Education, economics, and so forth.

The ebb and flow of power balancing that divides the world from the roots up.

In order to achieve this retreat the fabric of Americans had to be made threadbare. A people use to greatness aren't going to settle for regression lightly.

So the moral fabric that was the glue that held us together for over a century had to be compromised.
Whereas the people before thought themselves concomitant in their governance, now they had to be persuaded toward what is today's nanny state syndrome.
I.E ignore governments agents ,manufacturing of a socioeconomic deficit so as to accept and concede the fall is our fault and responsibility. And allow government expansionism under the guise of ''fixing the problem''. (That they manufactured to that end. Yet, most of us ignore this)

Allow that dynamic to grow exponentially and mature every decade to a worse scenario.
Example:The 50's evolved into the free love culture of the 60's. Involving change in every facit of American culture.
Faith wise, the church of Satan published a Bible. A wholly plagiarized amalgum of three different authors, all combined into a time that directly intended to offend the largely Christian faith foundation of America.
Introduce psychedelic drugs into the youth culture. Legal at first. A mind control experiment initiated by governments alphabet entities;CIA, etc....

Basically shake the very foundations of culture formerly known by the now aging generation. Which induces fear in them of the new young acting out generation that ignores the former moral codes of their parents.

After this, it snowballs. Self gratification, materialism, Satanism, for all that means, which is exploiting the carnal nature.

Then after a few decades of, ''if it feels good do it'', insure there's no return to the righteous moral fabric of old that now lays in tatters by injecting a victim nomenclature into society. I.E. Politically Correct verbiage. Which incites further de-Evolution of morality by injecting a prohibition against right language and thought, under the auspices of this being a proper conduct to insure the free love and thought platform seeded in the 60's now mushrooms into tolerance for all things except objection to that degradation slide of society. Disguised of course as hyper mannerism.

I.E the idea you can't say that! Because someone may be offended.
This naturally impacts and limits free thought. Because a people prosecuted for speaking freely against the fall that is inherent in carnal free expression are going to be programmed to limit their thought processes regarding such things, out of fear of persecution, because people typically think before they speak.

Persecute, as example, a person who disagrees Transsexuality is normal by threatening their capacity to earn a living.
As a consequence that victim will alter their opinion, at least in daring to be open about it, because they need to eat.

Silence equals complicity. And as a consequence allows what was formerly intolerable to become tolerable when financial security is at stake.

Basically America is now living the fall out of the old parable of the king and the poisoned well.

The Internet insures the virus spreads world wide at a far faster rate than would have been possible without it.

Just my view. But, you asked. 😉
Wow. This is …. something.
‘What do you think about leaving this world and becoming a nun or a monk in a monastery or in a forest/desert and just live the rest of your life for God?

Also, what do you think is going to happen next in America?
 

Snacks

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The first people on Earth were black. Black people built the pyramids, an engineering fee that people have still yet to be able to replicate
One of the most brilliant chess champions in the world is in Nigerian kid.
Albino stretch of the imagination am I saying that black people are only good for playing basketball. You are straw
Manning my argument
You were butt hurt because some people are celebrating Kwanzaa instead of Christmas and when I called you on it you were trying to project your own racism onto me
I hit a nerve.
 

Snacks

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People are responsible for their own behavior. Just because people are offensive doesn't mean you have to take offense. Someone isn't exonerated for poor behavior because of the order of their behavior.
The problem with an eye for an eye mentality is that you only end up with alot of people wearing patches.
Being truthful about a taboo subject gets some people upset. Problems can’t be resolved by pretending they don’t exist.
 

Cameron143

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I don't disagree. But every fisherman needs to know when to reel in and when to cut bait. Truth is only impactful when it's heard.