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You are making groundless assumptions and assertions about me. Let's
have the verses that say God does not plan things, since you claim it a fact.
Well? Where are they? Are you trying to escape the the fact that
there are no Scriptures that say God does not plan things?
While you are at it, please answer my other question as well.
have the verses that say God does not plan things, since you claim it a fact.
Well? Where are they? Are you trying to escape the the fact that
there are no Scriptures that say God does not plan things?
While you are at it, please answer my other question as well.
KJ-onlyist will say something along the lines of: that is a corrupted version...
However, God does invite us to reason with Him
And it does stand to reason that One Who purposes has plans.
Otherwise, it is all willy-nilly
Jesus' death on the cross to pay the sin debt and reconcile us to God was not willy-nilly
However, God does invite us to reason with Him
And it does stand to reason that One Who purposes has plans.
Otherwise, it is all willy-nilly
Jesus' death on the cross to pay the sin debt and reconcile us to God was not willy-nilly
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KJ-onlyist will say something along the lines of: that is a corrupted version...
God does invite us to reason with Him
And it does stand to reason that One Who purposes has plans.
Otherwise, it is all willy-nilly
Jesus' death on the cross to reconcile us to God was not willy-nilly
God does invite us to reason with Him
And it does stand to reason that One Who purposes has plans.
Otherwise, it is all willy-nilly
Jesus' death on the cross to reconcile us to God was not willy-nilly
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Firstly, only God knows the true state of any man's heart and whether or not he has salvation, this is not for us to judge as there is no way we could know. Sure we may judge people by their fruit, but we cannot know them as God knows them. That's why we are to encourage and edify people to live a Godly life, not condemn them. It is God who convicts and chastens them in love to see change within them.
Secondly I see the passage in Ephesians as a warning to not be those things, people are only those particular things if that is the way they are still living at the end of their life, without confession of sins, asking for forgiveness, separated from God with a hardened heart. But even beyond that, God is the judge, he is the one that sits upon the throne. All we can do is do our best to live as Christ and encourage others to live that way and abstain from those things mentioned in the verses above. Bringing people to salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit and is not what we should be focused on. Our responsibility is to allow God to use us to plant the seed and water the seed, then God will call those who are to harvest the seed.
Secondly I see the passage in Ephesians as a warning to not be those things, people are only those particular things if that is the way they are still living at the end of their life, without confession of sins, asking for forgiveness, separated from God with a hardened heart. But even beyond that, God is the judge, he is the one that sits upon the throne. All we can do is do our best to live as Christ and encourage others to live that way and abstain from those things mentioned in the verses above. Bringing people to salvation is a work of the Holy Spirit and is not what we should be focused on. Our responsibility is to allow God to use us to plant the seed and water the seed, then God will call those who are to harvest the seed.
It seems your pretense is purely semantical. The KJV translators never used the word “plan” as far as I can tell, but there’s a difference between a word being absent in the KJV and the very meaning of the word itself being used repeatedly.
So what is a plan and does God have them, by definition of the word?
Plan
1. a detailed proposal for doing or achieving something.
2. an intention or decision about what one is going to do.
3. a detailed map or diagram.
I’m not going to post full passages, but key verses instead.
God did all three:
1. Exodus 32:14
14And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
2. Genesis 6:17
17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
3. Genesis 6:14,15
14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
So what is a plan and does God have them, by definition of the word?
Plan
1. a detailed proposal for doing or achieving something.
2. an intention or decision about what one is going to do.
3. a detailed map or diagram.
I’m not going to post full passages, but key verses instead.
God did all three:
1. Exodus 32:14
14And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
2. Genesis 6:17
17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
3. Genesis 6:14,15
14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
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The point is that God allows anything to happen, and wants yourself Take responsibility boldly.
Otherwise, obey his words.
In fact, it seems that personal rewards have been given.
Fair enough.
The spread of the gospel may be just a joke.
People choose their own way of life,Do what they want to do.Evil or good.
They got what they wanted.
Poor NPC The victims,They're somewhere in between.
So which one do you choose?
Of course, the way God gave us.even kneels must also walk it.would rather laugh and cry.
Otherwise, obey his words.
In fact, it seems that personal rewards have been given.
Fair enough.
The spread of the gospel may be just a joke.
People choose their own way of life,Do what they want to do.Evil or good.
They got what they wanted.
Poor NPC The victims,They're somewhere in between.
So which one do you choose?
Of course, the way God gave us.even kneels must also walk it.would rather laugh and cry.
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6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 10And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
I believe the offer of GODs forgivness is given for every soul on this earth.
Forgiveness is found in CHRIST alone and unless the offering of total surrender to his authority is agreed upon and offered up by a repentive heart it is not acknowledged.
As Joshua said choose this day whom you will serve. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments.
Universal forgiveness is offered but not given. It is only given to those that believe, repent, and accept.
I believe the offer of GODs forgivness is given for every soul on this earth.
Forgiveness is found in CHRIST alone and unless the offering of total surrender to his authority is agreed upon and offered up by a repentive heart it is not acknowledged.
As Joshua said choose this day whom you will serve. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments.
Universal forgiveness is offered but not given. It is only given to those that believe, repent, and accept.
Outstanding post! I think your first paragraph is critical to understand our faith, and yet so little discussed or acknowledged. Little makes sense until we begin to grasp the knowledge that God is eternal. Without that knowledge we put him in little boxes that are nice and neat, but he will have no part of it!
I mean those who live in lies, and innocent people who are murdered, poor people, and people who suffer injustice. They are caught between good and evil.
These people suffered disaster because of the selfish desire of evil people, and the evil people already got their rewards But these people did not get the rewards,These experiences are not what they hope.
Luck 16:19-25
We enjoy the peace from God, we should more and more choose God's Word to obey.
These people suffered disaster because of the selfish desire of evil people, and the evil people already got their rewards But these people did not get the rewards,These experiences are not what they hope.
Luck 16:19-25
We enjoy the peace from God, we should more and more choose God's Word to obey.
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It is no joke. Life is found in Jesus Christ alone.
They just don't want to accept it because of their own selfish desires.
As far as the situation is concerned, preaching the gospel is a joke.
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