Have you ever thought about what you believe as this?

The CPC said that we are to serve the people. Jesus said that whoever would like to be the leader would be the servant of everyone.

I know these stubborn Communists are staunch atheists, but if we are not spreading religious doctrines, but integrate the words and truth Jesus said into our lives to teach others, will it be more appropriate?

I mean, we don't think of ourselves as the Communist Party, the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Christians, Buddhists, but just integrate the words of Jesus into simple words,

I mean, we just need to express the meaning of the truth of Jesus' words to people clearly, downplay the concept of religion and the concept of sects, as if Jesus is likened to Marxism Leninism?

There is no question that Christians are to apply the teachings of Christ to themselves. Which means feed the hungry, bring healing to the sick, reach out to the ones who are suffering, and everything that would be considered Christian good works. But after all that the the Gospel must be proclaimed, and that will not always be received kindly.

... you will be pigeonholed

The Truth of Jesus' words should not be downplayed. HE is the Truth, and the only way to the Father.

How would you water that down, any way?

You may have misunderstood me, or my expression is not clear enough.
Think about it. If you still don't believe in Jesus, when you talk to others, they will tell you something about the truth or outlook on life and values. Why do we have to make Jesus' words so religious?
It's like you have to belong to religion, not to the truth or truth of words.

my view
No need to even mention Religion in my view --as the truth of Jesus Words comes from the Word itself who is Jesus -----all Religions are man made and have no ties to the truth of the word ---the indwelling of Holy Spirit gives us the true meaning of the Word not Religion -----

Jesus did not tell us to have the governments feed the poor etc. We are to give with a glad heat etc . Taxes are not freewill giving. The Church gave its God directed duty to the governments. Our children the little hungry ones can now thank the schools for their food
God it great God is good let us thank Him for our food.
Has morphed into.. This school is so caring it feeds me.

Religion isn't man-made, denominations are. James 1:27

Jesus is the Truth. Do you understand what that means?

There is no "truth" that exists divorced from the reality of the fact that He is the Creator of all and the very source of life.

yeah it’s about a real relationship with Jesus religion can lead men far astray from God but knowing and relying upon Jesus keeps us close to him

I say
Show me where Jesus ever said follow my Religion -----I challenge you -----all Religions are man made -----the Word Christian was given to the Disciples by the Gentiles who were mocking the followers of Jesus ----the Name stuck with believers --

Jesus who was a Jew --Followed His Father's Laws of all the feast days and holidays but He did not Follow the Man Made Religion of Judaism -----the Jews added their own laws to their religion and Jesus many times chastised them for following their own man made Religious rules ----


Constantine made Christianity the main religion of Rome, and created Constantinople, which became the most powerful city in the world. Emperor Constantine (ca A.D. 280– 337) reigned over a major transition in the Roman Empire—and much more

God has no Religion nor did God give us any Religion -----Jesus simply said Follow Me --I am the Way ------so followers of Jesus Follow the WAY ------

Jesus said to Peter on this ROCK I will build My Church ----not I will build my Religion of Christianity --Roman Catholic ---etc --etc ---on this rock

Greek word for Church is
Strong's Concordance
ekklésia: an assembly

NO RELIGION can give you a personally Relationship with God ------but the Way can ------

I say Religion is a farce ----and needs to be done away with -----we need to follow -----the one who says ----I AM THE WAY -----not Christianity -----

I don't disagree with what you have written. But you made the term plural and define it as Denominations.
That isn't how it is used biblically.

Why can't we just speak "truth", and use Jesus' teachings, without talking directly about religion?


1.) Do you understand what postmodernism means? It means people in many nations no longer believe object truth even exists.
-> So the moment you claim moral truths even exist, you're already in conflict with the world.

2.) Do you realize Daniel wasn't hated for his religion; he was hated for being just and righteous?
-> So the moment you live righteously before God, you're already in conflict with the world.

3.) There is no way to LIVE IN TRUTH, or SPEAK IN TRUTH, without coming into DIRECT CONFLICT with modern culture.

Let me reiterate:
No matter how politely you talk, or how much you tip-toe around scripture, or how hard you try not to mention religion.... if you LIVE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, and you SPEAK MORAL TRUTHS ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE... you are in direct conflict with an angry world.

This is a principle taught in scripture, and we can see it throughout history, and we can see it around us in the modern world.
It is just a fact.
We should not seek conflict, but peace... and yet, conflict will find us.



God bless, and have a great weekend.
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Yes, we should be able to communicate our faith in very practical and understandable ways. Which means we have to have a clear understanding ourselves, and I think that practice helps a lot. If they cannot connect with the words you are using it won't help them at all.

I think that sometimes it's really a lack of personal engagement on our part, that we are sharing our faith because we know we should, and less that we are truly concerned for the other person. The more engaged we are with someone, the more aware we will be of their misunderstandings, the more we will be willing to put in the time to learn how to communicate with then.

Much love!

Seems that what you are saying has been expressed by some preachers as 'you may be the only Gospel that some people will ever see'.
The preacher I listened to today was talking about the 'underground' church. Have you ever heard of that? Do you even have a local congregation?

I find it kind of hard to share the written truth and promises of GOD without reavealing the author.

I think the church in some parts of the world became phariseeical and hierarchical, in that only the rich could actually afford to go to them. They then didnt end up serving people, they just served themselves.

eg if you came to church poor and in rags, you would be turned away at the door. You wouldnt be able to afford to tithe cos you had no job and income, and be told to sit in a corner away from the richer people. Because you smelled, but you couldnt be baptised unless you gave money to the church...

You know, I didn’t understand you at all in the ufo topic but I understand you completely fine here.

God bless you.

awe want to be careful not to change the presentation Jesus offers of himself and his eternal
Kingdom

sometimes pastors think they need to make the gospel more friendly or need to Modernize it but the gospel will always achieve what he designed it to do

awe actually aren’t supposed to immediately understand everything because we can’t immediately live up to all of it so as we learn from the gospel we want to keep
Pace and let it change us from faith to faith and glory to glory

what I mean is you don’t teach a baby the same things you teach a grown man the gospel is very much like born children being raised up and taught the right things by thier father who loves them

At his is a process of time and growth in faith and not an immediate thing a baby doesn’t go straight into driving a car first they learn baby things then toddler things then teen then grown then elderly things but it sinks in as they are able to hear and grow into it

this is one reason for his parabolic language and mysterious sayings that we sometimes don’t white understand st the time but later in life we can read it and it makes perfect sense

airs because our minds are maturing and with our minds our lives are maturing in the things of God

airs a very personal journey because the gospel touches each of us where we need it and doesn’t also add weight we cannot yet bear but we are gently led into greater understanding as we have the capacity to hear and indersrsnd it

like children were taught appropriately and the knowledge makes us mature into bigger things and then we learn what we’re supposed to and grow into it , repeatedly

like life were always rolling forward and maturing in faith but never quite reach the end of it so what it causes is us to always press forward and grow and mature better but never leaves us without something to pursue and overcome to be one step better one year older

awe want to just share what God said to us when he came to save us and also want to be careful about making changes to sorten or omit anything in order to try to make it more people friendly or more acceptable or even clearer or more modern

Gods design and even how Jesus said what he said is his purposeful design in order to induce hearing and considering thinking about which leads to faith repentance and eventually righteousness

reminds me of the movie Time Changer....excellent movie on this very subject