Peter NOT the 1st pope and the keys of the kingdom

What is gratuitously asserted is gratuitously denied.

1) Firstly, do let me know how you know there are to be 27 Books in the NT Canon without Apostolic Tradition? Based on Apostolic Tradition, it was the Catholic Church, in the 4th Century, (382 A.D.) that determined this: "A council probably held at Rome in 382 under St. Damasus gave a complete list of the canonical books of both the Old Testament and the New Testament (also known as the 'Gelasian Decree' because it was reproduced by Gelasius in 495), which is identical with the list given at Trent." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Rome

Martin Luther said: "We are compelled to concede to the Catholics that they have the Word of God, that we received it from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of it at all" (paraphrase).

Yet Luther called the Epistle of St. James "an Epistle of Straw": "Therefore, St. James' Epistle is a perfect straw-epistle compared with them, for it has in it nothing of an evangelic kind." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther's_canon#Hebrews,_James,_Jude_and_Revelation You see, important decisions like the Canon of Scripture were never left to the private judgment of one individual. They were taken by Bishops in Councils.

2. Second, what Tradition are you talking about that allegedly contradicts the Scriptures? Apostolic Tradition never contradicts the Apostolic Scriptures. In another thread, you mentioned you believe Baptism washes away sins, as it says in Acts 22:16, correct, DJT? I agreed with that, and gave some Scriptural references supporting that view. The Church Fathers also agreed, and that view is called Baptismal Regeneration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptismal_regeneration

Even Infant Baptism is an Apostolic Tradition. Origen says: "The Church received from the apostles the tradition of giving baptism even to infants. The apostles, to whom were committed the secrets of the divine sacraments, knew there are in everyone innate strains of [original] sin, which must be washed away through water and the Spirit” (Commentaries on Romans 5:9 [A.D. 248]). See for source. https://www.catholic.com/tract/early-teachings-on-infant-baptism

And if you want a Scriptural Reference for that, it is the famous passage in Acts 2:38-39: "38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

Children are not excluded from the gift of the Holy Spirit, hence they too can be baptized. Also, based on Col 2:11-12 etc, it is evident that Baptism in the NT has replaced Circumcision in the OT. But Circumcision was administered to children born in Jewish households. So, also, Baptism is given to children born in Christian households. In other passages in Acts, we read that entire households were baptized, a description that almost certainly would have included children: "33 At that hour of the night, the jailer took them and washed their wounds. And without delay, he and all his household were baptized." (Acts 16:33). Compare: "And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him." (Gen 17:27). Baptism is the NT equivalent of circumcision. That is very clear.

Wiki says: "Most Christians belong to denominations that practice infant baptism. Branches of Christianity that practice infant baptism include Catholics,[3] Eastern[4] and Oriental Orthodox,[5] and among Protestants, several denominations: Anglicans,[6] Lutherans,[7] Presbyterians,[8] Congregationalists[9] and other Reformed denominations,[citation needed] Methodists,[10] Nazarenes,[11] Moravians,[12] and United Protestants.[13] Opposition to infant baptism is termed "catabaptism". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism

Apostolic Tradition does not contradict the Apostolic Scriptures. It may contradict someone's interpretation of it, though.

God Bless.

The official title of Eastern Orthodoxy is the Orthodox Catholic Church.

Catholic means "universal!"

"e word catholic (derived via Late Latincatholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικόςkatholikos 'universal')[3][4] comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου katholou 'on the whole, according to the whole, in general', and is a combination of the Greek words κατά 'about' and ὅλος 'whole'."

e word catholic (derived via Late Latincatholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός katholikos -'universal')[3][4] comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου katholou 'on the whole, according to the whole, in general', and is a combination of the Greek words κατά 'about' and ὅλος 'whole'.

There is an issue here with the Orthodox church having come from the likes of Corinth.

Corinth was a port city, had many different peoples coming in and out of it. It had a strong pagan influence and the church at Corinth was infected with this background.

So.. unless the churches planted coming out of this reformed.. there is a high chance they were also infected.

I suppose they could have purified their faith, given Paul's admonishment to the church at Corinth.

It's really the likes of Antioch and Colosse and Ephesus that were more faithful, with Paul commending them on several points.

But I would like to see what did happen from the Corinth church planters to spread christianity.

But here is a quote for the ana-baptists..

Cardinal Hosius (Catholic, 1524), President of the Council of Trent:
“Were it not that the Baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past twelve hundred years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers.”—Hosius, Letters, Apud Opera, p. 112, 113.

1200 years! and Cardinal Hosius was writing around 1524.

Catholic means "universal!"

"e word catholic (derived via Late Latincatholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικόςkatholikos 'universal')[3][4] comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου katholou 'on the whole, according to the whole, in general', and is a combination of the Greek words κατά 'about' and ὅλος 'whole'."

e word catholic (derived via Late Latincatholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός katholikos -'universal')[3][4] comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου katholou 'on the whole, according to the whole, in general', and is a combination of the Greek words κατά 'about' and ὅλος 'whole'.

Whatever, that doesn't change the fact that Eastern Orthodoxy's official name is Orthodox Catholic.

To use a capital 'C' in the word 'catholic', denies the distinct doctrinal separation. Between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church.

Every Christian in the world is a catholic. The Greek word 'catholic' means the universal church, regardless of whether you were baptized by Paul, Peter or even Apollos.

The Orthodox churches are definitely catholic as is your church. Yet there is only one Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church is also Catholic, i.e. Universal. There are Catholics in every nation and tribe, as Daniel and Revelation imply there will be, which is part of what Nicaea (and the Apostle's Creed before it) meant in calling the Church Catholic, i.e. Universal. I respect the Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy believes in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and the Distinction between Bishops and Presbyters, which as I mentioned is taught in Scripture and goes back to the Earliest Church Fathers like St. Ignatius of Antioch, disciple of St. John the Apostle. Since Catholics and Orthodox both accept these Church Fathers, we believe most of the same things with few differences. And you mentioned about 12% of the Christian World is Orthodox (edited to correct the typo). Ok. With 1.3 BN Catholics worldwide, the Catholic Church is >50% of Christian believers worldwide. As I mentioned quoting Philip Schaff earlier, the line of Popes or Bishops of Rome stretches back in an unbroken Apostolic Succession of 265 Successors from Peter to the present Pope.

I pray for Full Unity, in Truth and Love, between all the Christian Churches, so the Great Commission can be completed faster. God Bless.

The Roman Catholic Church is also Catholic, i.e. Universal. There are Catholics in every nation and tribe, as Daniel and Revelation imply there will be, which is part of what Nicaea (and the Apostle's Creed before it) meant in calling the Church Catholic, i.e. Universal. I respect the Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy believes in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and the Distinction between Bishops and Presbyters, which as I mentioned is taught in Scripture and goes back to the Earliest Church Fathers like St. Ignatius of Antioch, disciple of St. John the Apostle. Since Catholics and Orthodox both accept these Church Fathers, we believe most of the same things with few differences. And you mentioned about 12% of the Christian World is Orthodox (edited to correct the typo). Ok. With 1.3 BN Catholics worldwide, the Catholic Church is >50% of Christian believers worldwide. As I mentioned quoting Philip Schaff earlier, the line of Popes or Bishops of Rome stretches back in an unbroken Apostolic Succession of 265 Successors from Peter to the present Pope.

I pray for Full Unity, in Truth and Love, between all the Christian Churches, so the Great Commission can be completed faster. God Bless.

My grandparents were Ukrainian Greek Orthodox. I went to weddings and funerals at the church, which had a big dome, and amazing "decorations" compared to the Baptist churches I went to for Sunday School. (I am still a Baptist!)

I agree with what you have posted about differences. But you I have missed some important things. Orthodox Christians rely on the Bible, whereas Catholics rely more on their hierarchy and traditions. Of course some Catholics do read the Bible, but it is not the norm! Whereas reading the Bible is very important to Orthodox believers. I think that has helped that church to stay closer to God, instead of relying on priests, rituals, etc.

Further, Latin was the language for all Catholic worshipers! That only ended in 1963, 59 years ago. All those centuries, Latin was the only language allowed all over the world. It kept the people ignorant, so the church could have power over the people. Really, very sad!

Whereas Orthodox churches kept to the language in the country where it's parishioners lived. Ironically, in Canada, the language they used was Ukrainian, which 3rd generation people like myself didn't know. (I'm learning it now!) So they lost from the second generation and on down! My dad spoke only Ukrainian, along with his sisters, till they started school. My dad just stopped believing, although God was gracious to answer my prayers of 30 years that God would save him, 5 months before he died!

So the Orthodox Church kept the vernacular. In the US there is the Orthodox Church of America, and I think they use English. I'm proud of my Ukrainian heritage (although family members have been killed fighting for Ukraine!) but my grandmother was illiterate. She was the oldest of 10 children, was born in Ukraine, and came to Canada when she was 6. She never went to school, her help was needed for a multitude of jobs, including cooking, cleaning, taking care of her younger siblings, and pulling the plough in spring! (That seems like abuse to me!) But she went to church and would follow along in her Bible, and she gradually began to read it. She also learned to read English reading an English Bible. But she could never read anything else. It's so sad she was deprived of an education, because she was a brilliant woman. But she was content, being able to read her Bible in 2 languages!

So language and the Bible were also important differences between Catholic & Orthodox Churches.

You should repeat this post often. Very few people understand that it means 'universal'. We are all lower case, catholic!

Of course, the "Church" in the NT, is the body of believers, the "Ecclesia", not a man made organization or religion.
The religious people are the ones that attacked our Savior.

We're NOT all lower case or any case catholic. The church is simply the church and it's Christ's church, Christian. UNIversal infers one; uni. We are not all one although we should be, but are divided by man's doctrines and traditions such as exemplified by the "catholic" and/or "Catholic" church.

Well, Jesus started His church with His disciples as a NT assembly of saved, baptised believers (with the exception of Judas)

Matthew 18 is the process of church discipline for a local church, an update of deuteronomy process with Israel for addressing disputes.

Mathew 16 Jesus talks of building His church

Why would he refer to different kinds of churches? One universal and the other local?

It only makes sense if it's the same local church sense in both Matt 16 and 18.

What if "We" are all one, but many who believe they are a part of the "We" are sadly mistaken?

What if "We" are all one, but many who believe they are a part of the "We" are sadly mistaken?