ARE DEMOCRATS AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY EVIL?

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arthurfleminger

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Firstly, let me say that I equally despise almost all politicians, Democrat or Republicans. That being said, I do vote, but never for a Democratic candidate, never. I find their political platform to be repugnant and morally evil in many of it's aspects....abortion, pervision of children, support of lGBT agenda, and anti Christianity principles. The Democrats have become the party of every fringe group, leftist, perverse, and nut case cause. And they are trying to make the citizens of this country subservient and dependant on government.

The Democrats support many things I could never support or vote for. The Republicans are simply the best of two evils.
 
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Polar

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Actually, there are people on both sides of the isle that are doing what you say is evil. Perhaps refer to scripture and in particular, this pertinent passage:

4 Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ.
II Corinthians 4

People who are not a new creation in Christ, are, by default since there are but 2 choices, DECEIVED. Granted, it does seem that the left are particularly in the devil's camp, with abortion and so on, BUT no one on the right is anymore righteous then they are if they have not believed in the death and resurrection of Christ and his atoning blood (meaning procuring forgiveness/salvation on our behalf )

I would not waste energy on despising people. I prefer to practice the peace offered by Christ:

27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. John 14:27

And in saying that, I am not claiming that is my constant state but I sure am better than I used to be :)

As with all things, we do have a choice. And I know it can be difficult to enter into the peace of God, but see it for what it is, It is our Savior saying to us:

Hey! You don't have to worry or be fearful of what is around you. Trust in me and believe what I say; my peace is YOUR peace.

All that to say I do understand where you are coming from. But we need that peace of God and trust in Christ now in this world or we will ultimately fall to despair, wondering why God does not 'do something' when He has already given us all we need to live in this world without it determining our future or our attitudes or state of mind.
 

Dude653

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This is part of the problem. Both sides need to stop demonizing each other. America is becoming more and more polarized
 
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Gojira

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Firstly, let me say that I equally despise almost all politicians, Democrat or Republicans. That being said, I do vote, but never for a Democratic candidate, never. I find their political platform to be repugnant and morally evil in many of it's aspects....abortion, pervision of children, support of lGBT agenda, and anti Christianity principles. The Democrats have become the party of every fringe group, leftist, perverse, and nut case cause. And they are trying to make the citizens of this country subservient and dependant on government.

The Democrats support many things I could never support or vote for. The Republicans are simply the best of two evils.
The spiritual war is being reflected in our politics. The Republican platform is far, far closer to Christian belief and Biblical principles than is the Democratic platform. The latter is demonic. It is no longer "liberal", but "progressive", which is fascist in the truest sense.

Now, people say 'oh they're all alike'. No, they're not. And, individual politicians of any party may suck, but the respective ideologies of our parties is what we must think about when we're voting.

Do you want a party that censors? Uses supposedly unbiased institutions to prosecute political opponents? This is third-world. One that uses useful idiot foot soldiers to wreak chaos in our streets, trying to intimidate all opposing narratives? A party that divides and conquers through race, mask-wearing, and vaccination status? A party that uses fear so that we surrender our freedom for their "temporary" emergency powers, a class fascist tactic? A party that celebrates tearing apart a human being limb from limb when it is the most vulnerable, all because they want consequence-free orgasms? A party that wants to sexualize our children with the worst perversions, including "transing" them?!? A party that claims to want equality and fairness, when such a system requires force and eliminates freedom? A party that has messed up our economy with 20% inflation (not buying the 8% nonsense)? A party that has caused serious crime to jump up 50%?

The modern Democratic Party is America's Fascist Party. There is no coming to the middle on this. "Both sides" are not equivalent in their blame. Individual Republicans may stink, even be cowards... but voting Left is dumb at best, evil at worst.
 

Dude653

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I'm more of a centrist / libertarian
.Blanket statements about any demographic of people are usually not true.
Not all Democrats are woke leftists just like not all Republicans are Nazis
 

ZNP

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This has become a very big discussion recently among Christians, I have avoided the topic as much as possible, but apparently there really is a very big question about this.

1. We are witnesses of Jesus resurrection and that Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of kings.

2. As such we are ambassadors of the kingdom of the heavens. As an ambassador in this country that is under different leadership I would never promote one candidate or the other. This is quite outrageous behavior for an ambassador.

Are you seriously shocked that the kingdom of darkness is the kingdom of darkness?

3. However, I also have a dual status, not only am I an ambassador of the Kingdom of the heavens I am also a citizen of this country and on that basis, and that basis alone I have a responsibility to vote. I also have the right to work for a candidate, or in government, or even in a political party. I don't have any issue with a believer who feels led to get involved with the political system of this country.

What I do have an issue with is any church or any "christian" ministry getting involved in politics or campaigning for one candidate or another. I find that offensive.

I lived in NYC for over 20 years and I learned that the people who really execute justice on mobsters is other mobsters. They will all kill each other. It should be no surprise if one political party goes to war with the other party and they try to kill each other. So I can believe that Hillary is a crook, I can believe that the FBI and DOJ have been weaponized, and I can root for justice to be done (as a US citizen).

However, as an ambassador for the Kingdom of the heavens I am warning that the day of the Lord is at hand, everyone will have to stand before the Lord's throne to be judged according to the things they have done, and that now is the best time to repent and stand on the blood of the Lord.

One final point, even though I am a citizen and have a responsibility to vote, I do vote according to my conscience which is informed by the word of God. That is my right.
 
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kaylagrl

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Firstly, let me say that I equally despise almost all politicians, Democrat or Republicans. That being said, I do vote, but never for a Democratic candidate, never. I find their political platform to be repugnant and morally evil in many of it's aspects....abortion, pervision of children, support of lGBT agenda, and anti Christianity principles. The Democrats have become the party of every fringe group, leftist, perverse, and nut case cause. And they are trying to make the citizens of this country subservient and dependant on government.

The Democrats support many things I could never support or vote for. The Republicans are simply the best of two evils.

The party? Yes, 100%. So much so people like Tusli Gabbard have had to leave. Even Bill Maher says the party has changed and left him. Obama even said the party had gone too far.
 
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kaylagrl

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This is part of the problem. Both sides need to stop demonizing each other. America is becoming more and more polarized

Stacey Abrams, and she's not the only one, was interviewed on Fox the other day. When she was asked her stand on abortion, where she felt there should be a limit or restriction, she said it's between a woman and her doc. She wasn't pressed, which is what I would have done. But her stance is abortion at any stage in the pregnancy. That's pure evil. You don't need to demonize that.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm more of a centrist / libertarian
.Blanket statements about any demographic of people are usually not true.
Not all Democrats are woke leftists just like not all Republicans are Nazis
The party is. And the cut down anyone who disagrees. It's Marxism and the top is pushing that agenda.
 

Nehemiah6

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The Democrats have become the party of every fringe group...
When are Americans going to wake up and say "The Democrats are the party of the Devil"?

What is Satan's agenda according to the Lord Jesus Christ? TO STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY. And that is exactly the Democratic agenda 24/7. Should Christians be surprised if the Democrats are actually demon possessed and controlled by demons and Satan? Or if George Soros is nothing less than a demon pretending to be a human? Unless we see the spiritual dimension of the hurricane of destruction sweeping America because of the Democrats, we will miss the fact that evil has prevailed over good in the United States (and worldwide). So what now remains is divine judgment.
 

Nehemiah6

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Nehemiah6

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Not all Democrats are woke leftists just like not all Republicans are Nazis
Quote one example to prove this. Who are the ones who have totally destroyed all major American cities? Primarily black Democrats. Even the Nazis did not believe in destroying their own beautiful cities.
 

Dude653

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Quote one example to prove this. Who are the ones who have totally destroyed all major American cities? Primarily black Democrats. Even the Nazis did not believe in destroying their own beautiful cities.
Prove that not all Democrats are burning down cities ??? okay let me just go to literally any public place and show you where they're not burning down cities
 
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Gojira

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I'm more of a centrist / libertarian
.Blanket statements about any demographic of people are usually not true.
Not all Democrats are woke leftists just like not all Republicans are Nazis
Almost no Republicans are Nazis, perhaps David Duke being that rare and idiotic exception. But, most Dems today ARE bonafide fascists. The Dems are no longer "liberal", but illiberal. Trans-ing our kids, racially segregating kids in our public schools (again), causing chaos deliberately to unravel society so that we cry out for order... cancel culture (you don't see too many Righties doing this).. oh and lest we forget all of the violence by the LEFT, not the Right.

I'm sorry, this hopelessly naive.
 
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To the OP question, as pertains to those currently in office,absolutely.
 

Dude653

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I know people think centrism is fence riding apathy but it's really not.
The right... Everyone who disagrees with me should leave the country
The left.... Everyone who disagrees with me is evil and wrong and should never be allowed to speak again
Centrist.... You're both stupid
 

ZNP

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Big Misunderstanding finally cleared up

The Whitehouse spokesperson made it very clear today that no one at the Whitehouse including Joe Biden thinks that voting for Republicans is a threat to democracy nor is it a threat to democracy if Republicans win elections.

This is when everyone realized when Joe Biden was talking about MAGA being a threat to Democracy it was a simple misunderstanding, what he was trying to say is that MAGA is a threat to Democrats.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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There are lots of old pro life democrats that live quiet lives that don't really know much about or get involved with politics.

There's no arguing the fact that the party platform is wicked and their fringe groups are now promoted in mainstream media, schools and city culture.
It's Satanic from the writing of Marx/Engle and many others taught in my "Predictive Programming" thread that most have as much interest in as the old assisted living home democrats.
 
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Gojira

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There are lots of old pro life democrats that live quiet lives that don't really know much about or get involved with politics.

There's no arguing the fact that the party platform is wicked and their fringe groups are now promoted in mainstream media, schools and city culture.
It's Satanic from the writing of Marx/Engle and many others taught in my "Predictive Programming" thread that most have as much interest in as the old assisted living home democrats.
Those mind-their-own-business Democrats need to stop supporting their party then. It is not longer merely a liberal party.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Those mind-their-own-business Democrats need to stop supporting their party then. It is not longer merely a liberal party.
The local democrats push hard for their votes. I've warned the people about them. With early voting and electronic ballots, it's hard to say who is voting for them.