Psalms

1) Are Psalms in general prophetic about our time? i.e. 21st century
2) Are Psalms of Asaph to be distinguished from other Psalms as being more or less significant?

“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44-45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.( Jesus ascention to the throne )

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. ( Jesus baptism )

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. ( Jesus possession of heaven and earth his rightful inheritance Matthew 28:18)


Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; ( Jesus the man child ruler with a rod of iron (his word )revelation 12 ) Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: Be instructed, ye judges of the earth. ( Christian’s Gods royal children through Christ )

Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, When his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”( Jesus presented in the gospel the son of God )
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭2:6-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬


the psalms are witnessing Christ And the fulfillment of the gospel many of the ot writings deal with that time and also the end of the earth if the apostles re teaching it it’s Probably found in the psalms or latter “messianic “ prophets such as Isaiah , zechariah , Ezekiel , Joel , and Malachi but they all speak of Christ and the kingdom

Luke 24:27 + 31

“For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: that Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

….whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:18, 21-24, 26‬ ‭

King James Bible
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I Have Cried Day and Night Before You

1{A Song or Psalm for the sons of Korah, to the chief Musician upon Mahalath Leannoth, Maschil of Heman the Ezrahite.} O LORD God of my salvation, I have cried day and night before thee:.......( though not for many days)

2Let my prayer come before thee: incline thine ear unto my cry;

3For my soul is full of troubles: and my life draweth nigh unto the grave....................(some troubles)

4I am counted with them that go down into the pit: I am as a man that hath no strength:

5Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.

6Thou hast laid me in the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps.

7Thy wrath lieth hard upon me, and thou hast afflicted me with all thy waves. Selah.

8Thou hast put away mine acquaintance far from me; thou hast made me an abomination unto them: I am shut up, and I cannot come forth.

9Mine eye mourneth by reason of affliction: LORD, I have called daily upon thee, I have stretched out my hands unto thee.

10Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah.

11Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?

12Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?

13But unto thee have I cried, O LORD; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee.

14LORD, why castest thou off my soul? why hidest thou thy face from me?

15I am afflicted and ready to die from my youth up: while I suffer thy terrors I am distracted.

16Thy fierce wrath goeth over me; thy terrors have cut me off.

17They came round about me daily like water; they compassed me about together.

18Lover and friend hast thou put far from me, and mine acquaintance into darkness.





Started praying this Psalm and parenthesizing my thoughts as recorded and erased my parenthesized thought at line 4 as the thought was of Ashoka's wheel. (Ashoka Chakra was included in the middle of the national flag of India. The chakra intends to show that there is life in movement and death in stagnation.[6][7] Dr B.R.Ambedkar was instrumental in reviving the legacy of Ashoka, and using the Ashokan Wheel on the flag was one of the ways where he tried to memorializing the Buddhist king.[8]) link to wiki.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_Chakra Seems to me that Psalm 88 is all about Jesus just after His crucifixion. i.e. His taking upon himself the sins of the world and 'burying' them in the tomb which the devil thought would be Jesus tomb? But why Ashoka's wheel in my thoughts? Harris/Biden?????

Jesus quoted Psalms 22 from the cross to bring to the attention of those that stood by that the scripture was being fulfilled right before their eyes, as he hung on the cross.

The Psalms seem to be specifically prophetic about our time.

The psalms are actually the most difficult thing for me in the Bible.
They speak of our condition of sadness, despair anger and joy in God.

The most difficult thing in the psalms is when David wants God to strike down his enemies which is contrary to what Christ teaches.
But David is a by-product of his time and culture.

As to the first question, I don't think so. While they do make application to our time, this can be said of any time. One of the distinctions of the Bible is its relevance to all people in all times.
As to the second question, all scripture is given of God and is profitable...
I actually find the Psalms encouraging because they address so honestly the problems and frailty of man and give expression to the emotions we all encounter as we do.

The psalms for the most part are prophetic that point to the coming Messiah. Nothing to do with the 21st century.

Luke 24:27 (NASB95)"Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures."

Luke 24:44-45 (LSB) "Now He said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”
45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures."

John 5:39-40 (LSB) "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that bear witness about Me; 40 and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life."

Jesus is the center of the scriptures. He is the beginning and the end of all things. Think Jesus, speak to Jesus, love Jesus, obey Jesus, and He will change you from the inside out.

Maybe this will help some. Since God dealt almost exclusively with the Jewish nation in OT times, the enemies of David could also be considered the enemies of God. I believe in Numbers 25 Phinehas killed a man and God's testimony of Phinehas was that he was as zealous for God's glory as God Himself is. In Revelation the souls of the martyrs also cried out for justice. So there does seem to be a righteous anger that God is honored in but I wouldn't trust myself in it.
And it is not just Jesus who espoused loving one's neighbors. Leviticus 19:17-18 says the same thing.

‘Thank you !
This is very helpful. See, there’s a lot of things which is consider Mysteries, like the God of OT and the God of NT.
In order of preference, I like the gospels first, Paul’s letters second and OT last, psalms the very last.
During these timelines, God is completely mysterious in His ways but I love Him either way.

Sometimes, I also wonder if I read the mind of a man on OT, like David, and not inspired prophets of God.
All a big mystery.

Coincidence is not a kosher word

Some people think that Psalm 48 -- foretells the reformation of Israel in 1948. Think how ironic it would be that the 19th book of the Bible and the 48th chapter would prophecy of 1948.

They also think that Psalm 17 describes General Allenby of the British as a young lion who takes Israel just as he did in 1917.

Then verses like
13 Be pleased, O Lord, to deliver me: O Lord, make haste to help me. 14 Let them be ashamed and confounded together that seek after my soul to destroy it; let them be driven backward and put to shame that wish me evil. In Psalm 40 and this in Psalm 41 5 Mine enemies speak evil of me, When shall he die, and his name perish? 6 And if he come to see me, he speaketh vanity: his heart gathereth iniquity to itself; when he goeth abroad, he telleth it. 7 All that hate me whisper together against me: against me do they devise my hurt. 8 An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more. 9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
and this in Psalm 42:9 I will say unto God my rock, Why hast thou forgotten me? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy? 10 As with a sword in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God?
These verses all seem to describe the plight of the Jews during WWII

In Psalm 43:1 Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man. 2 For thou art the God of my strength: why dost thou cast me off? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?

Seems to describe Germany, Hitler, and the oppression against the Jews.

And this in Psalm 44:9 But thou hast cast off, and put us to shame; and goest not forth with our armies. 10 Thou makest us to turn back from the enemy: and they which hate us spoil for themselves. 11 Thou hast given us like sheep appointed for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen. 12 Thou sellest thy people for nought, and dost not increase thy wealth by their price. 13 Thou makest us a reproach to our neighbours, a scorn and a derision to them that are round about us. 14 Thou makest us a byword among the heathen, a shaking of the head among the people. 15 My confusion is continually before me, and the shame of my face hath covered me, 16 For the voice of him that reproacheth and blasphemeth; by reason of the enemy and avenger.

But who knows, maybe the Psalmist was just in a funk because he snaps out of it in Psalm 45:3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. 4 And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things. 5 Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.

Others see a prophecy of scud missiles coming into Israel in 1991 in Psalm 91.

Others say that this verse in Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Refers to Stalin who said this in 1914. However, some debunked this pointing out that almost the same thing is said in Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

And Stalin didn't say that in 1953, that was the year he died. Of course the verse in Psalm 53 is past tense, not present tense.

But anyway that is all pointless. If the Psalms are truly prophetic going year by year then Psalm 120 would describe the pandemic.

Psalm 120:1 In my distress I cried unto the Lord, and he heard me. 2 Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.

That is ironic seeing as we now know that Dr. Fauci was lying to us when he said there was no evidence that the pandemic came from the Wuhan bioweapons lab. We also know that when he said all the evidence pointed to a bat cave that that also was a lie. We know that forcing the use of masks was a lie, that requiring six feet apart was unnecessary and caused the shutdown, that HCQ does work even though they lied about that and that Ivermectin works even though they lied about that.

3 What shall be given unto thee? or what shall be done unto thee, thou false tongue?

We now know that all those liars received $350 million from Big Pharma.

4 Sharp arrows of the mighty, with coals of juniper.

It was like flaming arrows burning down the city. They destroyed kids education, they destroyed small businesses, they mandated treatment that killed people.

5 Woe is me, that I sojourn in Mesech, that I dwell in the tents of Kedar! 6 My soul hath long dwelt with him that hateth peace. 7 I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.

Yep we saw that. This was the election year with the BLM riots and looting and burning the cities. People were trying to keep the peace but it was clear some did not want that.

The Psalms are all divinely inspired even though some may not appear to be so. Many are prophetic to a greater or lesser degree. So when David cries out for divine judgment upon his enemies, it is not in conflict with the divine judgments which are already at work and also will be seen before and after the Second Coming of Christ. But many Psalms are simply songs of praise, and if all those would be set to music, you would have a hymn book right inside your Bible. One could not have a better hymn book.

‘Yeah but see, if you start to interpret the Bible as a puzzle as opposed to a moral guide or Living Water then the implications of that in real life would be something like this:

1. I hate my boss at work so I want God to strike him down in pain and make me victorious. I hate anyone who disagrees with me and I want God to strike them down ! I want to be victorious.
But what would this do to your internal peace inside? You’d be completely ruined and in anger. You’d be consumed just like David. You’d be consumed by your ego.

2. But if you read it as a moral guide it would be : I don’t want to be like David.

Many times when reference is made to David, it is meaning the translation of his name, that is Beloved, and it is oft time truly refering to Jesus Yeshua. When you read these Psalms, think in these terms and the foretelling of what is to come.

Yes and no.
They are in that, they are God's living word to his people, and a reality for the believer through out the ages, and a beautiful model of prayer.

I dont place any more or less significance on any one scripture passage.

Even the imprecatory Psalms are useful models of prayer. We have an enemy of our soul and we have enemies of the faith and we. Have oppressors and we have our own flesh as an oppressor.

They are not contrary to the teaching of Christ.
Turning our enemies over to God for him to deal with is exactly according to Jesus. We dont take things into our hands but deliver them over to God.
Jesus said for us to pray "deliver us from evil".

Imprecatory Psalms - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Imprecatory_Psalms

Imprecatory Psalms, contained within the Book of Psalms of the Hebrew Bible (Hebrew: תנ"ך), are those that imprecate – invoke judgment, calamity or curses ...
‎Imprecations elsewhere in the... · ‎Old Testament · ‎Context and meaning
I realize you find fault with wikipedia so you correct this where it is in error.