5 Red Heifers, ritually pure, have been delivered

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ZNP

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#81
This has zero to do with offering a blood sacrifice to your god

You are missing the temple Jesus said He would build. Youvare hoping for a calf to shed her blood , you have chosen to over look the sacrifice of Christ. You want more as if there could be more then the Son of God.
This is what you said.

1. "offering a blood sacrifice to your god". You didn't say the Jews were doing this, you said "your god" replying to my post. How can I not be offended by this and call it a lie. I am not offering a blood sacrifice to my god.

2. You said "you are missing the temple Jesus said He would build". Why? Because I refer to the news that shows prophecies that Jesus made are being fulfilled. Ridiculous, and insulting.

3, "You are hoping for a calf to shed her blood, you have chosen to over look the sacrifice of Christ" -- Very ugly slander. You are accusing me of this? Why because I am looking for and love the Lord's coming.
 

ZNP

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#82
This is backward. There will be no sanctification of the temple and the sacrifice of an animal in attempt to do so is blasphemy. It is against Christ and his atoning sacrifice, His blood spilled to sanctify his temple which is in his church.
It is blasphemy to think it is needed or that it can sanctify.
Yes, that is what the Bible says. Congratulations.
 

Dirtman

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No, I didn't. This is a lie.
Your post #61. Is indeed a twisting of my words. A twisting of scripture, and does indeed compare kill an animal for for food to ritual religious animal sacrifices.
 

ZNP

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#84
Again you judged me as a liar .

I am asking you to back up your claim, knowing you can not. .
See post #81, the claim is fully backed up.
 

ZNP

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Your post #61. Is indeed a twisting of my words. A twisting of scripture, and does indeed compare kill an animal for for food to ritual religious animal sacrifices.
That is because your words were vague so I was looking for clarification. Since you have clarified I have also used your clarification. Instead of pointing the fingers at others and judging others why not consider yourself?
 

Beckie

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This is what you said.

1. "offering a blood sacrifice to your god". You didn't say the Jews were doing this, you said "your god" replying to my post. How can I not be offended by this and call it a lie. I am not offering a blood sacrifice to my god.

2. You said "you are missing the temple Jesus said He would build". Why? Because I refer to the news that shows prophecies that Jesus made are being fulfilled. Ridiculous, and insulting.

3, "You are hoping for a calf to shed her blood, you have chosen to over look the sacrifice of Christ" -- Very ugly slander. You are accusing me of this? Why because I am looking for and love the Lord's coming.
There is no mention on my part of Salvation. Where is your evidence? yes i sure did i said 'your god' . I did not suggest your sacrifices were for salvation. Salvation only comes from God through Thee Lamb . Where is the evidence? If i said what you say i said a quick quote would be all you need.
 

Beckie

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#87
Poster saying i am a liar and not being able to quote where i said such. Shows the hart of man. Dispensationalism teaching taught very well how to twist the Scripture.
 

ZNP

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There is no mention on my part of Salvation. Where is your evidence? yes i sure did i said 'your god' . I did not suggest your sacrifices were for salvation. Salvation only comes from God through Thee Lamb . Where is the evidence? If i said what you say i said a quick quote would be all you need.
Anyone who argues for the need for something in addition to the redeeming work of Christ is denying the Savior who redeemed us.

I stand on the blood of Jesus. I am part of the temple you accuse me of not seeing, and I stand on that blood. The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood.

Salvation is a big word, being built into the Temple is part of my salvation, being able to stand on the blood is my salvation. I get it, you do not understand fully what salvation is, fine, so rule number one, stop accusing the brethren. Stop judging others.
 

Beckie

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#90
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
 

Beckie

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Anyone who argues for the need for something in addition to the redeeming work of Christ is denying the Savior who redeemed us.

I stand on the blood of Jesus. I am part of the temple you accuse me of not seeing, and I stand on that blood. The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood.

Salvation is a big word, being built into the Temple is part of my salvation, being able to stand on the blood is my salvation. I get it, you do not understand fully what salvation is, fine, so rule number one, stop accusing the brethren. Stop judging others.
Still no evidence of your claim.

I'm sorry where did i say that I was going to get a calf to be shed for my salvation. Stop lying about Christians. This is despicable.
 
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You are correct to call out the horrific sin that reinstituting the animal sacrifices is. Such men who relish in this abomination are sick, as you states earlier. The desire to see men and women blaspheme Jesus and trample his blood under foot by returning to animal sacrifices is sadistic and evil. And knowing that many weak and deceived christians will participate in this and bring judgement upon themselves, we must call it out for the evil that it is.
I can't even

you have taken misunderstanding to another level

possibly an art form

smh
 

Beckie

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Anyone who argues for the need for something in addition to the redeeming work of Christ is denying the Savior who redeemed us.

I stand on the blood of Jesus. I am part of the temple you accuse me of not seeing, and I stand on that blood. The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood.

Salvation is a big word, being built into the Temple is part of my salvation, being able to stand on the blood is my salvation. I get it, you do not understand fully what salvation is, fine, so rule number one, stop accusing the brethren. Stop judging others.
I noticed the words sanctify was used in the above post. Lets look up what that word means so to the Scriptures using Strong's This is found
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
hag-ee-ad'-zo
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.
Total KJV occurrences: 29
Here is the sentence from post The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood. .
Why or how he thinks the blood of a heifer can sanctify any thing. Noticing the sentence does not say the Jews believe or think it will sanctify but the sentence says the Jews will .
 

ZNP

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I noticed the words sanctify was used in the above post. Lets look up what that word means so to the Scriptures using Strong's This is found
ἁγιάζω
hagiazō
hag-ee-ad'-zo
From G40; to make holy, that is, (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate: - hallow, be holy, sanctify.
Total KJV occurrences: 29
Here is the sentence from post The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood. .
Why or how he thinks the blood of a heifer can sanctify any thing. Noticing the sentence does not say the Jews believe or think it will sanctify but the sentence says the Jews will .
It is basic physics. If you sprinkle blood on the ground and then build a temple on top of that ground it will stand on that blood. Now the "third temple" for all those familiar with Bible prophecy is the one built after the veil was torn and it is the one that the AntiChrist will set himself up in. There is nothing "sanctified" about that.

Becky, you are trying desperately to find something that you can use to condemn me with. That is ugly and it is becoming a joke.

This was an old testament type and it shows us that the church, the Temple of God that Jesus is building, is standing on His shed blood.
 

Dirtman

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It is basic physics. If you sprinkle blood on the ground and then build a temple on top of that ground it will stand on that blood. Now the "third temple" for all those familiar with Bible prophecy is the one built after the veil was torn and it is the one that the AntiChrist will set himself up in. There is nothing "sanctified" about that.

Becky, you are trying desperately to find something that you can use to condemn me with. That is ugly and it is becoming a joke.

This was an old testament type and it shows us that the church, the Temple of God that Jesus is building, is standing on His shed blood.
Yes and that temple is us in Him.

Where is this prophesy of a third temple.
Isnt Herods rebuilding of the temple actually the third. Ya have Solomon, then Gideon or Ezra ( I dont remember), then Herod who rebuilt after Antiochus Epiphanies destroyed it. He even added the fortress. Thats three.
 

Beckie

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It is basic physics. If you sprinkle blood on the ground and then build a temple on top of that ground it will stand on that blood. Now the "third temple" for all those familiar with Bible prophecy is the one built after the veil was torn and it is the one that the AntiChrist will set himself up in. There is nothing "sanctified" about that.

Becky, you are trying desperately to find something that you can use to condemn me with. That is ugly and it is becoming a joke.

This was an old testament type and it shows us that the church, the Temple of God that Jesus is building, is standing on His shed blood.
Did you post this sentence? in post # 89.. The Jews will sanctify the ground of the new temple with the blood of the red heifer, hence their third temple will stand on that blood.

This are your words if they are condemning that is on you.
 

Beckie

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Joh 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.